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Investment in Shares Vs Pension
bird_man
#1 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:46:29 AM
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Hi people.I just want to hear your views on something I have been thinking about.
I am a contract employee and as such not pensionable.I want to have some money on retirement (I'm 25yrs).
If I join an RBA approved pension plan and contribute 10,000sh/month for the next say 25yrs and with an annual return of say 6% on contributions,my amount at the end of the next 25yrs will be something close to Ksh.6,583,741.44

On the other hand,I could save 10,000sh/month and invested quarterly on stable NSE shares for the next 25yrs.

What makes more sense?What are your views on the pros and cons of each?Any other ideas?
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lovely2010
#2 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 11:57:55 AM
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I would recommend you invest in stock market. I put 10000 to 15000 everymonth but you have to do a lot of reading for you to be able to know where to put your money. I trade like daily so mostly I find my cdcs account loaded.
mkonomtupu
#3 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:07:49 PM
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The major benefit of pension saving in RBA approved plan not only reduces your taxable amount but also the pension can't be attached to settle your debts without your consent. In any event pension compounds and the earlier you start the better. Investment in shares is not risk free you may end up with a portfolio wiped out. I invest in both shares and pension and even though my shares have always done much better I can never stop contributing to pension- maalipo ya uzeeni. Am sure kids in the future will just throw us in old people's home and forget.
2012
#4 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:11:05 PM
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I'm sure you can get better than 6% with Britak or any other money market or equity fund (I'm not a fan of Old Mutual and UAP played me).

BBI will solve it
:)
bird_man
#5 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:39:36 PM
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@lovely,mkonomtupu & 2012 thanks a lot.smile

I think I will find a way of doing both pension and shares at the same time.For pension,I was thinking of CIC "Jipange Plan"....anyone with experiences?I also heard Britak is quite ok.

For shares (especially @lovely2010), do you use CFC Online?
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Sober
#6 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:51:43 PM
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doing both is the safest strategy. pension is for those who are cowards and hence thay have their cash after many years of working while shares is a risky venture and hence the returns are high, but so are the losses if you do not stay keen.
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My 2 cents
#7 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 12:53:18 PM
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bird-man, if you save 10K through the pension you only have 7k deducted from your payslip(the effect of the tax advantage) so in effect you are getting 3k from the govt for every 7k you save. A very nice return.

This effect is only upto 20k contribution(both yours and employers), at which point I would revert to good ol' stocks.
native
#8 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:20:47 PM
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2 cents ! you are very right. with a pension plan you start reaping benefits immediately- because of the gov't tax advantage and again the money is invested (MAY BE IN STOCKS WHICH YOU WANT TO INVEST IN). Better still, if your contract is terminated you can access your full benefits.
bird_man
#9 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:41:01 PM
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@My 2 cents......Smart point right there on tax exemption!
I would think that a mix of both would be the best.That way you are shielded from total losses if anything bad was to happen in the NSE.
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PKoli
#10 Posted : Thursday, November 04, 2010 1:55:19 PM
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lovely2010 wrote:
I would recommend you invest in stock market. I put 10000 to 15000 everymonth but you have to do a lot of reading for you to be able to know where to put your money. I trade like daily so mostly I find my cdcs account loaded.


I have so far looked at my contribution for retirements over the last 13 years, and today my personal contribution plus interest is just under a million. However if this money was invested in stocks - Financials and industrials religiously over the same period, I would be atleast 3-4 times what I already have even if you look at the bearish periods! If you have to invest in stocks using your retirements funds, please think margin of safety and be very consistent!
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