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#1 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 12:46:26 PM
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As an Equity shareholder, I hope Muguku left a proper will otherwise it'll be chaos if family has decides to sell the shares...
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obiero
#2 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 2:24:16 PM
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10 out of 14 directors and general managers at Equity are from Central Kenya! Impunity!!!!!
http://www.equitybank.co.ke/about.php?subcat=4

HF 30,000 ABP 3.49; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
mlennyma
#3 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 2:37:20 PM
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10 out of 14 you say??? So its kkk,kkk,kkk,k bank ?
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whynow
#4 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 2:46:04 PM
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Obiero.

Once upon a time a luo opened a shop for his wife. Other luo women used to visit the shop and gossip the whole day. The kikuyu women next door was busy attending to her clients.

A luo man was retrenched. He bought a mercedes and eat the rest of the golden handshake with women. Now he only laments how he was victimized. His kikuyu mate invested in a car wash business. He has never looked back.

A kikuyu man used to diligently buy shares of certain company every month from his paycheque. He now has an impresive portfolio. His luo friend was diligently at Nairobi west drinking every day talking loudly and boosting alot. His is now deep in debt.

It is called the biz mind, goals and approach.

Equity is a private company. If no luo has ivested substantially in this bank how do you expect one to be made a director. Haki Yetu ????
mlennyma
#5 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 2:53:57 PM
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@Whynow!!! you sound like moreno ocampo's candidate.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
Njung'e
#6 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 3:00:15 PM
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[quote=obiero]10 out of 14 directors and general managers at Equity are from Central Kenya! Impunity!!!!!
http://www.equitybank.co.ke/about.php?subcat=4[/quote]

It's said that during the PEV,some people would uproot the railway line.Kamau would wait until the wanyoaji were dead asleep from tire and hunger and he would come with a lorry to collect the metal to go sell as scrap....It's the way you see it....when a group of businessmen were establishing EB,watu wengine walikuwa wamekalia makende....Now they can only cry in envy...BK!
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whynow
#7 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 3:00:17 PM
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Mlennyma - Respond to my last para.
mwanahisa
#8 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 3:03:15 PM
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I normally eschew commenting on issues such as this, but I will weigh in this time round. As a shareholder in EB, I am actually unhappy about this state of affairs. We are not talking about the Board of Directors here. On the BoD, EB has 5 out of 11 Non-Central Kenya Directors. You could have an argument on this one about the core investors wanting to take care of their interest.

However, when it comes to Key Management, surely the rest of Kenya could at least provide 50%. I would actually expect higher, but 51% at the very least. EB is a Regional Bank and their management ranks should reflect as much. It is a shame that it does not!!!
Jamani
#9 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 3:03:39 PM
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[quote=obiero]10 out of 14 directors and general managers at Equity are from Central Kenya! Impunity!!!!!
http://www.equitybank.co.ke/about.php?subcat=4[/quote]

So what is the problem with that? compare with the cylinder company and no one is making noise
Seeders
#10 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 3:06:38 PM
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equity is not a parastatal.

even then, could not care less if the entire staff was made up of jacob zuma's and king mswati's wives.

as long as i get a fat dividend cheque and capital appreciation.

want to know why many kenyans remain poor?

there you have it.
whynow
#11 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 3:10:13 PM
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Once upon a time there was a company called Thabiti Finance. The employees conducted biz in their mother tongue. " Ehero kelna file no". "Omera eduaroo chul pesa adi". All the directors and the GMs were from the same region.

Mwanahisa please give us a company owned by a luo and provide the breakdown of the management.
winston
#12 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 3:11:03 PM
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Sometimes listening to professionals, educated fellows and off late wazuans, I get the sinking feeling that the we shall forever be slaves of our tribes.
Insurgent
#13 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 3:13:22 PM
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whynow wrote:
Obiero.

Once upon a time a luo opened a shop for his wife. Other luo women used to visit the shop and gossip the day. The kikuyu women next door was busy attending to her clients.

A luo man was retrenched. He bought a mercedes and eat the rest of the golden handshake with women. His kikuyu mate invested in a car wash business.

A kikuyu man used to diligently buy shares of certain company every month from his paycheque. His now has an impresive portfolio. His luo friend was always at Nairobi west drinking every day talking loudly and boosting alot. His is now deep in debt.

It is called the biz mind and approach.

Equity is a private company. If no luo has ivested substantially in this bank how do you expect one to be made a director. Haki Yetu ????


Thankyou for calling a spade a spade. When I point out that fact, soem idiot screaams here that am attacking soem pple from western region of the country. In the naem of being sensitive to tribal issues, we look the other way even when can help our brothers grow up. Like, a jang'o wants to live at large while his ukuyu fellow works hard. When the ukuyu becoems rich, the jaruo jinga says it is unfair for ukuyu to have so much money while others don't. So, issues of directors in Equity is based on controlling shareholders in a private company. You cant say oduor otieno is a genius as he found the bank strategy, vision and everything set for him by one Gareth george and terry davidson.


"One man gives freely, yet gains even more; another withholds unduly, but comes to poverty. A generous man will prosper; he who refreshes others will himself be refreshed." Rev Canon Karanja.

Apple Bees
#14 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 3:15:45 PM
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Jamani wrote:
[quote=obiero]10 out of 14 directors and general managers at Equity are from Central Kenya! Impunity!!!!!
http://www.equitybank.co.ke/about.php?subcat=4[/quote]

So what is the problem with that? compare with the cylinder company and no one is making noise

you are making noise, it seems
mjuaji wa stocks
#15 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 3:17:59 PM
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Seeders wrote:
equity is not a parastatal.

even then, could not care less if the entire staff was made up of jacob zuma's and king mswati's wives.

as long as i get a fat dividend cheque and capital appreciation.

want to know why many kenyans remain poor?

there you have it.



I would not have said it better!!!Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause


Whether ni mwangi nad wife and children....i dont care....all i need is fat divinded cheque na capital appreciation.

@Obiero.....i am not frm central kenya....but your level of thinking does not befit a wazua memberShame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Shame on you Kama unataka kuwa mmoja wao.....soma kabisa....then make an application....utapelekwa kisumu ama kisii ama anywhere then tuone....

God gave me the power to make wealth ... Blessed the work of my hands & enabled be A SELF MADE BILLIONAIRE ...... TO GOD THE FATHER OF MY LORD JESUS CHRIST; BE THE GLORY NOW & FOREVER MORE!

Seeders
#16 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 3:23:05 PM
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a kenyan is more interested in the pride of a distant cousin becoming the director of some company than they are in 1)growing their own wealth, 2)buying the company some day and 3)giving jobs to whomever they feel like.
muganda
#17 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 3:25:27 PM
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Wololo yaye, @winston is right, and our tribalism is beginning to show on this thread...
winston wrote:
Sometimes listening to professionals, educated fellows and off late wazuans, I get the sinking feeling that the we shall forever be slaves of our tribes.


No one disputes Nelson Muguku is a brilliant entrepreneur and deserves the success. Viewed against today's business daily lead story Revealed: The waning value of directors in corporate Kenya, it makes sense why as @seeders says, one would believe a more varied board would bring greater value to the business.

Njung'e
#18 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 3:33:16 PM
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Maybe this nyef nyefs should take time to listen to Jimmy Gait's song "Sonko"(Kiguta gutiri kindu kionaga....ruta wira na utige wana)...

Traslates to:
A lazy man will amount to nothing but a hard working man will have more than enough. The rich continues to get rich and the secret is redeeming time as they have a vision of what they want.
Nothing great was ever achieved without enthusiasm.
mwanahisa
#19 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 3:36:25 PM
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whynow wrote:
Once upon a time there was a company called Thabiti Finance. The employees conducted biz in their mother tongue. " Ehero kelna file no". "Omera eduaroo chul pesa adi". All the directors and the GMs were from the same region.

Mwanahisa please give us a company owned by a luo and provide the breakdown of the management.


Seems, I should have kept my "trap" shut, as per my first instincts. For the record, I am not from Western Kenya - although it would not matter even if I were.

Equity Bank is a listed company so its relatively easy for me to get that kind of information at the click of a mouse. I am not able to do that for private companies, so I am afraid I can't give you that information. There are not that many companies on the NSE where the founders are from Western Kenya.

However, the point is not to compare companies owned by people who trace their antecedents from Central Kenya versus others. I am equally uncomfortable with a company largely owned by Englishmen, Asians or others having 80% of their management ranks being populated by persons from their kinsfolk.

In the case of EB, if they ever want to shed the tag of a Central Kenya outfit, I think they have to work on increasing the diversity of their key employees. In the mean time, I continue to laud the good performance of the bank. I just happen to believe that it can be done with more representation of management from across the region. I rest my case!
mv_ufanisi
#20 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 3:37:19 PM
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Another tricky thread. Actually a disproportionate number of senior management is from Central Kenya just like a disproportionate number of owners. It has to do with the fact that the company started in Central Kenya. A lot of these managers are relatives or children of owners and they get recommended for jobs by old friends. Old Boy Network.
There's no difference between this and for example Indian or Jewish businesses. It actually comes down to the ties of friendship/family.
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