Quote:Scubidu,
I knew the bond would be oversubscribed...and a greater portion of investors would prefer the "fixed" bond and not the "floating" bond. I was expecting a greater portion of investors to take up the fixed portion like it was the case with CfC Stanbic.
Maybe they thought that they could earn a higher interest rate than the fixed bond...which I doubt it will happen due to the excess liquidity in the market. This is probably the new "normal" in our fixed income market right.
Out of curiosity, would you like for us to have more discussions about HF in mwanahisa's forum? We could also try to figure out the impact of this bond on the company.
That way we all try to figure out if there is something to worry (or not worry) about the company...regardless of whether one would prefer to invest in that bond or in shares.
@scooby. Yes I agree the fixed was definately more attractive but i have a feeling the floating will have zero liquidity (no upside). I seem to remember HF made better returns from selling housing units than from lending, but that was pre-2000 I think.
@mwanahisa. I'm not a banker but I'd be interested to know what is inherently cheaper for a bank to do. To lend to an unsecured loan, asset loan or mortgage loan? I'm merely looking at admin costs and risks. Becoz I'd think if u had to lend out 7b wouldn't costs go up & like u said there's not much flexibility 4 increasing lending rates.
I seem to remember HF restructured in 2008 to get lean, but u still believe they have underutilised capacity? Barclays & CFC raised a fraction of HF's bond and have bigger reserves. but if HF cud theoretically lend out the 7b I wud think that would cos serious liquidity problems considering they hold no govt assets. But surealligator had a point. Ebl lent HF 1b in debt at 8.5% (milking them) whereas other banks like BBK got funds from their parents at like 2.4%. But indeed ur rite the valuations on equity & the bond look good.
@surealligator. What makes u think KenGen didn't buy an IFRB with the 25b?
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