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Barclays Home Loan...what to do?
hindi ni riu
#1 Posted : Thursday, August 26, 2010 9:48:21 PM
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Hi Wazuans

I hear Barclays have a home loan, in which you can pay the 'rent' as the monthly repayments. Is this a good deal or is it one of those good deals with a catch later on, terms and conditions in fine print? Are there better terms available from other banks/financial institutions?

Please advice...

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ajhsumar
#2 Posted : Thursday, August 26, 2010 10:37:23 PM
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Bear one thing in mind. This is purely business. As long as you pay on time and dont default, u r on right track. Otherwise its purely business.So thats where the catch is. But overall its a good offer.If you can pay the same amount of rent u r paying currently as your mortgage,than i guess its ok.
mukiha
#3 Posted : Friday, August 27, 2010 8:26:43 PM
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hindi ni riu wrote:
Hi Wazuans

I hear Barclays have a home loan, in which you can pay the 'rent' as the monthly repayments. Is this a good deal or is it one of those good deals with a catch later on, terms and conditions in fine print? Are there better terms available from other banks/financial institutions?

Please advice...

This is the standard practice with ALL mortgage plans.

You pay monthly installments for an agreed period at the end of which the house becomes yours. Usually, the mortgage "rent" comes to about twice the normal rent if you want to buy a house of the same size and simillar location to the one you are renting.

The catches are:
1. You will pay interest on the purchase price. That's how the bank makes money. At current rates, the final price you pay will be about double what you'd have paid in cash.

2. The interest rate may be changed from time to time by the bank and you must adjust your installments to reflect the new rates. Normally you get 30 days notice.
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My 2 cents
#4 Posted : Friday, August 27, 2010 11:40:05 PM
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Yes it is ideal to own one's house but this investment should be evaluted like all others i.e compare cost vs benefit. our banks still charge interest rates that are way too high no wonder they rake in billions each year. sometimes and very often renting makes better financial sense. unless of course u work for a bank and get very favourable rates, or are willing to put up a sizeable downpayment thus reducing how much you borrow, and are also willing to pay off the mortgage in the shortest time possible. i say rent and invest your money in the bourse. for many people though the decision to buy a house is mostly emotional security.
leona
#5 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2010 1:34:01 PM
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The Big question is:
Should people continue paying rent to landlords OR take home loans and own their own homes?
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Chaka
#6 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2010 1:42:30 PM
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Another catch is that the bank will require you to open your salo account with them so that immediately your salo lands there,they debit the mortgage installment..
My 2 cents
#7 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2010 1:57:14 PM
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leona wrote:
The Big question is:
Should people continue paying rent to landlords OR take home loans and own their own homes?

It is the cost that is an issue. rent on nyayo embakasi flats is 20k and mortgage is 56k. my view is that instead of buying on mortgage one should rent and invest the rest. If they are disciined one day they can buy a home on cash basis or borrow very little. This way tons of interest can be avoided.
mukiha
#8 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2010 2:30:16 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
leona wrote:
The Big question is:
Should people continue paying rent to landlords OR take home loans and own their own homes?

It is the cost that is an issue. rent on nyayo embakasi flats is 20k and mortgage is 56k. my view is that instead of buying on mortgage one should rent and invest the rest. If they are disciined one day they can buy a home on cash basis or borrow very little. This way tons of interest can be avoided.

@My 2 Cents;
Have you factored-in the price appreciation of houses? And also the ever-rising rents?

Experience has shown me that rent in Nairobi doubles every 7 - 10 years. Thus expect the 20k flat to cost about 40k by 2020.

BTW, is this the New Nyayo Embakassi old the older one? I know that the first phase mortgage is Sh28,341 exactly and that's where you cane get 20k - 25k rent, depending on you negotiation skill.

These houses were fetching 12k - 15k rent in 2002....but the mortgage was still the same Sh28,341.

People assume that it is easy to save for a house and pay for it in cash and they forget two things:
FIRST; that it is very difficult to muster enough discipline to save, and
SECOND: that the prices of houses are also increasing.

Let me illustrate with my own personal experience:

In 2002, I signed up for a mortgage to buy the flat below the one I was living in. I had been paying Sh16k rent. The purchase cost was sh2.5m and the the mortgage installments came to Sh31k pm.

Today, the rent for the area averages 30k - 35k, but the mortgage is still 31k.

My eighbour recently sold her flat earlier this year for sh7.5m

In view of the above, taking a mortgage does make sense; doesn't it?
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Sonu
#9 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2010 2:30:33 PM
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some time salary figure don't allow mortgage coz in westland and parkaland price for house gone high. u can't even efford. i'm paying 38K for my house rent should i get any in that range.?
please advice. in cheap house to make my own.
wanyuru
#10 Posted : Monday, August 30, 2010 4:28:40 PM
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mukiha wrote:
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People assume that it is easy to save for a house and pay for it in cash and they forget two things:
FIRST; that it is very difficult to muster enough discipline to save, and
SECOND: that the prices of houses are also increasing.



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