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astute
#1 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 10:02:32 PM
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Apparently if the KCB walk the talk it has a very bright future when the Rights issue succeeds...it is essentially positioning its financial position for a regional growing economy...I think this is a BUY,BUY,BUY stock...
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#2 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 10:14:58 PM
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several threads going on about kcb, its rights offer and future. Why start another one?
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#3 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 10:18:30 PM
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My problem is shld i buy now or when the rights start trading ? And when are they starting to trade ?
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#4 Posted : Sunday, July 18, 2010 10:49:35 PM
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qw25041985 wrote:
My problem is shld i buy now or when the rights start trading ? And when are they starting to trade ?

qw, first await the results of the rights issue then you can decide from them
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#5 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 12:02:42 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
qw25041985 wrote:
My problem is shld i buy now or when the rights start trading ? And when are they starting to trade ?

qw, first await the results of the rights issue then you can decide from them

I'm confident that they will be fully subscribed since the dividend yield on the rights is about 6%
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#6 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 1:51:23 PM
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My observation with KCB rights in the past show3 that the price holds for some time, then dips in the short term and then rises again. It continues to shine as a growth stock without a doubt. It has won awards previously because of its growth record. Future is bright.
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#7 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 6:44:56 PM
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How about this...

I was reading KCB's IM. I was almost ready to exercise the Rights allocated to me...

Turns out martin oduor-otieno the CEO earns KShs 68mn but owns ZERO (yes, ZERO) KCB shares...

JM of Equity had to cut his ownership to below 5%...

So unlike Equity share for JM, MOO has NO interest in how the KCB shares perform!
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#8 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 6:55:18 PM
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Sorry to hijack this thread.I have often wondered whether if you were to see the say Vimal's(CEO Bidco)garbage bag,would you find chipsy containers or would you find imported olive oil bottles?
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#9 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 7:15:51 PM
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Chaka, or do the Somen brothers (and father) use Safaricom's Bambanet to browse on their PCs instead of access@home?
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#10 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 7:19:12 PM
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Lakini... both Somens & Vimal have shares in the firms they run!

martin can bank with SCBK or BBK [which wud not surprise me!] but he has ZERO interest in KCB... Even if KCB collapsed kesho... he loses zilch...
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#11 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 7:21:06 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
How about this...

I was reading KCB's IM. I was almost ready to exercise the Rights allocated to me...

Turns out martin oduor-otieno the CEO earns KShs 68mn but owns ZERO (yes, ZERO) KCB shares...

JM of Equity had to cut his ownership to below 5%...

So unlike Equity share for JM, MOO has NO interest in how the KCB shares perform!

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#12 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 7:22:51 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
So unlike Equity share for JM, MOO has NO interest in how the KCB shares perform!

I like it how his initials spell moo.
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#13 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 7:29:49 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
How about this...
Turns out martin oduor-otieno the CEO earns KShs 68mn but owns ZERO (yes, ZERO) KCB shares...
So unlike Equity share for JM, MOO has NO interest in how the KCB shares perform!

Does anyone have any info on the top paid c.e.o's at the NSE? If moo gets 68 million a year I wonder what others are getting.
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#14 Posted : Monday, July 19, 2010 11:50:41 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
How about this...
Turns out martin oduor-otieno the CEO earns KShs 68mn but owns ZERO (yes, ZERO) KCB shares...
So unlike Equity share for JM, MOO has NO interest in how the KCB shares perform!

Does anyone have any info on the top paid c.e.o's at the NSE? If moo gets 68 million a year I wonder what others are getting.

Look at the P&L (the follow the Notes for additional details)

I think naikuni 50mn+, adan BBK 80mn+
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2010 3:31:20 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Look at the P&L (the follow the Notes for additional details)
I think naikuni 50mn+, adan BBK 80mn+

Thanks
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2010 9:42:32 AM
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kcb growth depends on how the subsidiary outlet perform hope they dont disappoint.
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:41:08 AM
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@VVS, I think the Kshs 68m is for all the executive directors and not only for MOO.
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2010 10:49:13 AM
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vvs- how do you know martin gets ksh68m? It says they directors got Ksh104m for 2009 and I'd be shocked if more than half of the chunk was his.

And yes, it does look very bad that ceo sold his shares just before RI
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2010 2:28:19 PM
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qw25041985 wrote:
My problem is shld i buy now or when the rights start trading ? And when are they starting to trade ?


you are a Technical Analyst..so you understand than most impact of supply vs demand on the price of a reasonably liquid counter..such as KCB.

You are better off waiting..
But should you be interested in KCB for the long term..then the 6% dividend yield on rights as previously highlighted by Dealis good enuf reason to buy the once allotted to you.. should you opt for more rights then factor the market price to calculate new yield..anything better than 5% is good.. beats rest of the market.
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VituVingiSana
#20 Posted : Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:15:52 PM
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Wa_ithaka wrote:
vvs- how do you know martin gets ksh68m? It says they directors got Ksh104m for 2009 and I'd be shocked if more than half of the chunk was his.

And yes, it does look very bad that ceo sold his shares just before RI


People... Please READ the IM... there is compensation for ALL directors. Then for EXECUTIVE directors...

On the Board, there seems to be only one EXECUTIVE director... ergo the 68mn is MOO's...

I think the non-execs get way too much!!! 36mn??? Wow!
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