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Why KCB???
the deal
#1 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 5:20:23 PM
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I'm a KCB investor waiting in the wings...

1.KCB has expanded across EA and i think in 2-3 years time the epansion will pay off...

2.KCB is the largest bank in EA by assets...

3.GOK wont take up ots rights...hence reducing its influence in the running of KCB...

4.A strategic investor is on the horizon...probably an SA bank want to expand in EA theres no other better placed bank than KCB..

5.KCB is cheap...

so i'm waiting for any BOGOFFS!!!!smile smile smile
Wa_ithaka
#2 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 5:25:00 PM
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the dealio-if you so berieve in the stock, mbuy now ama?
The Governor of Nyeri - 2017
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 5:28:38 PM
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S.Africa Bank or Nigerian Bank or Chinese Bank (like they did in Stanbic)...

BUT... that does not benefit you as a current shareholder...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
the deal
#4 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 5:35:00 PM
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Wa_ithaka wrote:
the dealio-if you so berieve in the stock, mbuy now ama?

you are looking short term...when Rwanda,SS,UG and TZ break even....we will never see KCB at 21 again...this is an opportunity of a lifetime...August i go in...i see value here...call me crazy but KCB come 2012smile smile smile
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#5 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 5:43:40 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
S.Africa Bank or Nigerian Bank or Chinese Bank (like they did in Stanbic)...

BUT... that does not benefit you as a current shareholder...

in the long run it will...KCB is a long term buy...
Wa_ithaka
#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 5:45:31 PM
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In the long-term as Keynes said, we are all dead.

Don't forget KCB has been in TZ since 1920s but has not yet been profitable. Ditto Juba et al.
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the deal
#7 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 5:48:53 PM
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Wa_ithaka wrote:
In the long-term as Keynes said, we are all dead.

Don't forget KCB has been in TZ since 1920s but has not yet been profitable. Ditto Juba et al.

hehehe TZ was a socialist country...its only now that they are opening their markets...MR wathaika check ur history...LOL.
youcan'tstopusnow
#8 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:00:16 PM
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I still think the rise of Equity to the top (in all aspects) in like 5 years is unstoppable. Its current rate of growth is phenomenal and its massive expansion is paying off.
How come its takes KCB 3 times the time to realise the benefits of its expansion?
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#9 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:01:10 PM
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KCB is no Equity... heck, no-one else is Equity!
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
My 2 cents
#10 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:05:44 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
KCB is no Equity... heck, no-one else is Equity!


True dat. That is why everyone else will still be standing when the house of cards comes crashing........
VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:28:23 PM
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My 2 cents wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
KCB is no Equity... heck, no-one else is Equity!


True dat. That is why everyone else will still be standing when the house of cards comes crashing........


Nope... If what u imply happens all will suffer except the multinationals like BBK & StanChart...

In the 1990s, as folks fled the local banks... cash went to these guys...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
youcan'tstopusnow
#12 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:49:23 PM
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My 2 cents, there is no "house of cards" that will be crashing. Do you really believe those stories that Equity will fall. Haha. I almost pissed myself!
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youcan'tstopusnow
#13 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:51:09 PM
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Matter of fact, I think I just did!
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youcan'tstopusnow
#14 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 6:53:16 PM
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VVS, Equity at 24 bob and KCB at 15 bob, which one would you buy? Lets say a for a period of 5 years.
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#15 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 7:00:00 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
VVS, Equity at 24 bob and KCB at 15 bob, which one would you buy? Lets say a for a period of 5 years.


Tough one coz Equity hasnt even scratched the surface in Uganda or Sudan yet KCB looks compelling coz of existing footprint...

If the KCB management & staff are 'changed' then KCB at 15/-...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
chaliwong
#16 Posted : Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:13:22 PM
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KCB is still a KANU stronghold.
Look at the staff especially the management (old Guard):
Most of them ni Jogoo.
My 2 cents
#17 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2010 10:44:57 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Matter of fact, I think I just did!


Hold your horses, there may have to be more of that from you in the future....
Fundaah
#18 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:28:27 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
My 2 cents, there is no "house of cards" that will be crashing. Do you really believe those stories that Equity will fall. Haha. I almost pissed myself!


Agreed,

In the past , there was a perception that Equity was a political bank ....favored by the Central Bank( non disclore of directors exception) , Treasury (channeling of budgetary funds like women and youth funds through the bank) and top Government figures Kimunya ,Ndungu and HE...

In the course of time ,Equity has shed this perception and become a market leader in innovation ....Benki ya Mwananchi......Mkesho.....banking facilities for the poor...
This has made equity a perennial award winner both locally and internationally .....I believe the assesors of the awards esp international awards are not politically influenced ......are they ?
Equity must be doing something that sets it apart.....
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#19 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2010 11:43:14 AM
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I was quite bullish about Equity last year; then a few months back I had a chat with one of the GMs and he painted the picture that EQT without Mwangi is uncertain. Mwangi still micro-manages the bank and it makes one wonder what kind of future it has without him. It could be bright; or it could be dark. And therein lies the uncertainty. I have since eased off this counter.
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#20 Posted : Thursday, June 17, 2010 12:06:12 PM
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the sooner the folks on SK realize that KCB is going noweher the better...just goin thru the info memorandum and it seems that kcb has no idea wat it wants to do with the 15 bn it plans to realize..apart offcourse from sortin out some prudential ratios(which ratios they dont mention)...wat really jazzes me about this rights issue is that it will cost KCB a staggering KES 470mio odd( a cool 21mio on pr!)...VVS said it best..KCB shud hav sought out an anchor shareholder...maybe ACTIS,IFC ama proparco...doubt kcb managemnt wud want an anchor shareholder thats a foreign bank becoz they wud all be dismissed for gross incompetance
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