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What Happens After Death?
kyukkamba
#1 Posted : Wednesday, June 02, 2010 2:52:40 PM
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If you are following any religion then what does your book says about this? and what do you as a person think?
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kadonye
#2 Posted : Wednesday, June 02, 2010 4:02:15 PM
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This is one issue that Christian scholars and Pastors never agree on.While it's most widely accepted that one's spirit leaves the body n he joins God in heaven, some Christian writers like Doug Batchelor strongly oppose the notion and advance a different one which suggests that on death one goes into a state of stillness until the second coming of Christ when the dead shall be raised in readiness for judgment
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atiriri
#3 Posted : Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:13:38 AM
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@Kadonye, what about the living dead. There is a tribe that talk to the dead. They name their children by calling the dead persons name until the child keeps quite.
Ja-Kom
#4 Posted : Thursday, June 03, 2010 6:44:26 AM
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Allow me to put some literature ave read in past few day here...i think it gives an insight into the whole issue quite well.
Within the Christian faith, there is a significant amount of confusion regarding what happens after death. Some hold that after death, everyone “sleeps” until the final judgment, after which everyone will be sent to heaven or hell. Others believe that at the moment of death, people are instantly judged and sent to their eternal destinations. Still others claim that when people die, their souls/spirits are sent to a “temporary” heaven or hell, to await the final resurrection, the final judgment, and then the finality of their eternal destination. So, what exactly does the Bible say happens after death?

First, for the believer in Jesus Christ, the Bible tells us that after death believers’ souls/spirits are taken to heaven, because their sins are forgiven by having received Christ as Savior (John 3:16, 18, 36). For believers, death is to be “away from the body and at home with the Lord” (2 Corinthians 5:6-8; Philippians 1:23). However, passages such as 1 Corinthians 15:50-54 and 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 describe believers being resurrected and given glorified bodies. If believers go to be with Christ immediately after death, what is the purpose of this resurrection? It seems that while the souls/spirits of believers go to be with Christ immediately after death, the physical body remains in the grave “sleeping.” At the resurrection of believers, the physical body is resurrected, glorified, and then reunited with the soul/spirit. This reunited and glorified body-soul-spirit will be the possession of believers for eternity in the new heavens and new earth (Revelation 21-22).

Second, for those who do not receive Jesus Christ as Savior, death means everlasting punishment. However, similar to the destiny of believers, unbelievers also seem to be sent immediately to a temporary holding place, to await their final resurrection, judgment, and eternal destiny. Luke 16:22-23 describes a rich man being tormented immediately after death. Revelation 20:11-15 describes all the unbelieving dead being resurrected, judged at the great white throne, and then being cast into the lake of fire. Unbelievers, then, are not sent to hell (the lake of fire) immediately after death, but rather are in a temporary realm of judgment and condemnation. However, even though unbelievers are not instantly sent to the lake of fire, their immediate fate after death is not a pleasant one. The rich man cried out, “I am in agony in this fire” (Luke 16:24).

Therefore, after death, a person resides in a “temporary” heaven or hell. After this temporary realm, at the final resurrection, a person’s eternal destiny will not change. The precise “location” of that eternal destiny is what changes. Believers will ultimately be granted entrance into the new heavens and new earth (Revelation 21:1). Unbelievers will ultimately be sent to the lake of fire (Revelation 20:11-15). These are the final, eternal destinations of all people—based entirely on whether or not they had trusted Jesus Christ alone for salvation (Matthew 25:46; John 3:36).
You can read more in the book “The Wonder of Heaven: A Biblical Tour of Our Eternal Home” by Ron Rhodes.
For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous. Romans 5:19
B.Timer
#5 Posted : Thursday, June 03, 2010 7:16:00 AM
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Once you die thats the end of the (your) story.
The body gets eaten up up a myriad of other living organisms safe for the bones. Infact if those bones fall in the jaws of Hyaenas nothing of them remains.

There is no such thing as soul, spirit bla bla.
Dunia ni msongamano..
kyukkamba
#6 Posted : Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:35:35 AM
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B.Timer wrote:
Once you die thats the end of the (your) story.
The body gets eaten up up a myriad of other living organisms safe for the bones. Infact if those bones fall in the jaws of Hyaenas nothing of them remains.

There is no such thing as soul, spirit bla bla.


smile can u please tell us y u think so? It might help in understanding u point better.
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kadonye
#7 Posted : Thursday, June 03, 2010 8:44:48 AM
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Atiriri, the bible seems to allude to the fact that spirits of the dead are separate from their bodies and can even be recalled through evil works like witchcraft.In 1 Samuel 28, Saul consults a witch to get for him the spirit of prophet Samuel.He is successful and speaks to the recalled spirit

@Jakom-brilliant.What do you think Jesus meant when he told the repentant thief 'I tell you today you will be with me in paradise?'
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sky5
#8 Posted : Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:46:18 AM
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When you die, you (your soul) either go to heaven (paradise) or to hades (hell - is different from the 'lake of fire' but in close proximity).

@kadonye. When Jesus died and the thief died later that day (presumption...), they meet in paradise. (the holding place for the souls of believers.

Pablo
#9 Posted : Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:48:21 AM
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Its interesting that 'committed' christians only believe that only those who accept Jesus will go to heaven.

What about catholics, Jews, Hindus, Muslims, Buddhists (yes let me further add that they have heard of Jesus) What this means that they will all go to hell irrespective.

Personally, even if I profess the christian faith, I dont think that thats the case.
Ja-Kom
#10 Posted : Thursday, June 03, 2010 9:55:52 AM
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@Kadonye..In the statement“I tell you the truth, today you will be with me in paradise" (Luke 23:43), Jesus is assuring one of the criminals on the cross that when he died, he would be with Jesus in heaven. This was granted because even at the hour of his death, the criminal had expressed his faith in Jesus, recognizing Him for who He was (Luke 23:42).
When we die,the body goes back to where it came from,the earth.Your Soul awaits judgement(your soul is the real you),and your spirit,to either hades or paradise.
@Pablo,whats your take,since you dont believe only those who accept Jesus will go to heaven?.
For just as through the disobedience of the one man the many were made sinners, so also through the obedience of the one man the many will be made righteous. Romans 5:19
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