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Surealligator
#1 Posted : Friday, March 26, 2010 10:56:50 AM
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The fate of the five other RVR shareholders Mirambo Holdings (15 per cent), Prime Fuels (15 per cent) and Australia’s Babcock and Brown (10 per cent) and Centum (10 per cent) in RVR was not immediately clear.

People familiar with the deal however said Citadel bought out the five for a total of 80 per cent shareholding and is set to cede a 14 per cent stake to TransCentury and another 15 per cent to a Ugandan investor by sitting out an upcoming $10 million (about Sh750 million) rights issue slated for later this month.

So, Centum now has excess cash at hand.

Does anyone know which tea companies shares Centum has?

With about 23% of Carbacid shares, shouldn't this be the next horse to bolt?
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2012
#2 Posted : Friday, March 26, 2010 11:17:11 AM
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Surealligator wrote:
Centum (5 per cent)



Who did centum sell the other 5% to?

BBI will solve it
:)
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#3 Posted : Friday, March 26, 2010 11:17:13 AM
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@Surealligator People don't seem to understand these stock maybe they catch with the bus later.
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#4 Posted : Friday, March 26, 2010 11:19:33 AM
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2012 wrote:
Surealligator wrote:
Centum (5 per cent)



Who did centum sell the other 5% to?


It should be ten but business daily seems to have missed that fact. I pasted the para from Bdafrica and that passed my keenless eye. Hope you get the gist.

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#5 Posted : Friday, March 26, 2010 11:27:21 AM
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They have to make the announcement first to see if it was worthwhile. Despite this and Carbacid going well for them, Centum just made a lot of bad calls when buying their Equities. According to last years annual report - they bought KQ @ abt 110, MSC at abt 17. So they are still making losses in some of these shares.
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#6 Posted : Friday, March 26, 2010 11:30:46 AM
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When is the tcl ipo?
VituVingiSana
#7 Posted : Friday, March 26, 2010 11:39:09 AM
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Centum might have sold the 5% (or didnt participate in fundraising)... Anyway... I do not know...
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#8 Posted : Friday, March 26, 2010 4:55:23 PM
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Radiance wrote:
When is the tcl ipo?


They have an OTC offer going on.You can get it at Dyer an Blair
VituVingiSana
#9 Posted : Friday, March 26, 2010 9:47:04 PM
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Centum is liquid... though IMHO... kirubi is a crook...
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#10 Posted : Sunday, March 28, 2010 6:51:13 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Centum is liquid... though IMHO... kirubi is a crook...

VituVingiSana wrote:
Centum is liquid... though IMHO... kirubi is a crook...

@vvs not been following the news. Is centum still in RVR? They impaired the investment in RVR last year. Whats the value of investment in RVR if they are still in? What about the real estate in sudan? Kirubi seems to have gone back to speculating like he did with uchumi.
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VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Sunday, March 28, 2010 9:58:08 PM
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@sparkly - I have not have officially heard/read that Centum is out of RVR.
All we have is a story that says that Citadel will have 51% of RVR & Ugandans 15% (sheltam has 35% so where does the 17% come from?)... and the 15%?

Centum may have impaired RVR investment but that does not mean they have sold it. If there is value, they can write it back...

Huh? Real estate in Sudan? I lost you there
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#12 Posted : Monday, March 29, 2010 10:16:15 AM
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Centum has offered its stake for USD 4.5 million which translates to Ksh 347.85 million as at todays exchange rates. Considering the fact that they marked down the investment by 84% which was equivalent to Ksh 295million in april 2009 its a plus for them.
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VituVingiSana
#13 Posted : Monday, March 29, 2010 10:16:46 AM
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Not confirmed but I hear $4.5mn for 10% in RVR... What did Centum buy the 10% for?
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mv_ufanisi
#14 Posted : Monday, March 29, 2010 10:52:55 AM
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Check in their annual report for 2008 on their website.
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#15 Posted : Monday, March 29, 2010 11:56:43 AM
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NAIROBI, March 29 (Reuters) - Kenyan investment company Centum (ICDC.NR: Quote, Profile, Research) has offered its 10 percent stake in a concession running the Kenya-Uganda railway for $4.5 million to other shareholders, the company said on Monday.

The 25-year concession started in 2006 but failed to take off due to a dispute between shareholders of Rift Valley Railways (RVR). Reviving the rail network between Kenya and Uganda is seen as critical to boosting intra-regional trade.

"Centum Investment Company, in line with its new investment strategy, has offered its entire 10 percent equity stake in the Rift Valley Railways Investment (RVRI) to the rest of the shareholders through a pre-emptive offer process as outlined in the RVRI shareholders agreement," it said in a statement.

Other partners in the consortium are Mirambo Holdings and Primefuels Ltd, Trans-Century, Babcock & Brown of Australia and Egypt's Citadel Capital CICA.CA, through its subsidiary Ambience Ventures.

Under a deal that was announced after arbitration in London, and which is expected to be finalised by mid-April, Ambience Ventures will take a 51 percent shareholding in RVR, while Trans-Century will own 34 percent. [ID:nLDE62M15S] (Reporting by Helen Nyambura-Mwaura; Editing by Richard Lough and Hans Peters)
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:41:26 AM
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In short Centum is being forced out by Transcentury and Citadel. Not a bad thing as this railway thing is a very longterm, risky and unpredictable venture. They'll have money to invest in more stabler areas. This is the time to buy!

BBI will solve it
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#17 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2010 7:53:24 AM
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Having already written off its loss on RVR, the sale means that any upside will go into the P&L for 2009/10. which closes tomorrow.
Lets meet at Ksh17.00
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2010 8:25:16 AM
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@wa_ithaka have you seen this stocks P/E ratio?? earnings have to be supernormal for it to fly until 17bob...

i'll be watching this space
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2010 8:53:48 AM
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This stock is dominating proceedings at the bourse today. I am very comfortable with the ride.
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Surealligator
#20 Posted : Tuesday, March 30, 2010 9:06:19 AM
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guru267 wrote:
@wa_ithaka have you seen this stocks P/E ratio?? earnings have to be supernormal for it to fly until 17bob...

i'll be watching this space


@Guru

Its now at 15

Note: Having spent 6 billion in RVR, writing off 2 billion and now selling its stake at RVR at 4.5 billion means Centum is going to add 2.5 billion into its books as cash realized. Expect prudent investing of the 4.5 billion this time round. Hope this former captain major general airforce jetfighter driver understands the "Idiot's guide to valuing shares/stocks"
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