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Drama at Equity Bank
Scubidu
#1 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:43:47 AM
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I wonder just what kind of restructuring is going on at Equity, merging of departments to cut costs, mass layoffs.

Read the article below:

http://www.businessdaily...8/-/6annaq/-/index.html

What does one see from this strategy, departments being merged and scrapped, are things no longer rosy at Equity Bank?

I think the most distressing news is from Equity's investment banking arm (EIB) with the CEO Maina Mwangi resigning; I wonder if the whole department will be scrapped as well?

Although EIB was full of old renaissance guys I don't think Dr Mwangi has been impressed by the performance of the unit. We all remember the half year reports for stockbrokers.

We knew that 2009 would be a difficult year for the Bank, so is a case of weeding out inefficiencies or is this a preview of banks restructuring in Kenya? Equity's price is up today...driving past Kshs17.00
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McReggae
#2 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:33:28 AM
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Let's put our eyes!!!!
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gathinga
#3 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:37:52 AM
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Three ladies were sacked on the spot when they arrived at 9am for jobo at the H/O. The staff are very anxious....and I understand the UG operation is not bringing in profits as expected. This is going to bring donwn general business confidence in the country.

On the upside, lots of the people employed at EB were cronies of senior guys, people who had to be rewarded for helping as the bank grew here and there. At some point, these had to give in to solid business and recruitment practivces and it appears that time is now.....

McReggae
#4 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:53:58 AM
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gathinga, I agree with on that part of recruitment, they have never fully empcraced meritocracy in their recruitment processes!!!!
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Jangwa la Jangili
#5 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 10:12:16 AM
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Performance aside, the organisational culture of Renaissance and Equity Bank were so far apart, it was only a matter of time before Renaissance chaps started bolting.
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VituVingiSana
#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 11:07:21 AM
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I wonder how much Maina was getting paid...
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kyt
#7 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 12:53:34 PM
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Spare equity. Please!! only time will tell for this bank.
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mpanzi
#8 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:25:48 PM
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From an employee point of view, really bad news and the human side of me empathises with them.
However, from a business | investment point of view, really good news!
It shouldn't take so long for a good management team to realise some positions can not be sustained. If last year's figures cannot make them act then I would be worrying about investing in such a firm. That is the case with BA which still keeps some jobs just to please the public. Fortunately, they have the likes of the Catholic church who inject quite a bit of funding, they can afford to live with inefficiencies.
Certainly, if Equity was being run by any of us, we'd find it prudent to review performance. Owning stocks of Equity is not any different and the management have to be held accountable.

The cases in question:
- Marketing, Advocacy and Policy departments merged with
Product Research and Development
(Are the two related? I guess not in some respects but I imagine the departments serving them could benefit from pooling resources)
-Treasury and trade finance department steamlined. (Same case as above)
-Investment banking arm's fate unknown
(World over, IBs posted losses in the crunch. Indeed no surprise that this is a potential business to get rid of, unless EB wants to go into IB big time in the long run. I suspect this is not the case. Sell it to the likes of D&B. That is their business).
gathinga
#9 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 1:52:54 PM
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@mpanzi. Compliance department also merged with a department called..enforcement. Remember there is also an audit department. All these three have been doing is duplicating roles and turf wars. the decision is timely for shareholders to derive value
VituVingiSana
#10 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 2:36:38 PM
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@mpanzi - Kwani what has the Catholic Church got to do with BA?
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mpanzi
#11 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 4:02:23 PM
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Apologies,
Actually meant Church of England. If you can find the story of the BA staff who'd been prevented from wearing a crucifix, you'll see how it ended. That is how significant the influence of Church of England is to BA business.
I fear there's too much inefficiency in BA. Even though they're reviewing their business big time, it'll take some thinking and seriously difficult decisions.
chaliwong
#12 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 5:23:58 PM
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What equity is doing now is what they should have done eons ago.
This counter is very lucrative but for those of us who strictly believe in fundamentals,and by this I dont mean the balance sheet growth but the management of the company, then I would look at it twice.
The new innitiatives in banking that this bank comes up with are very lucrative especiaally in growing their liabilities but they can only make good profits if they manage them proffessionally which I dont think they do starting with their recruitment process.
-Their compliance department is their greatest undiong espesially in giving unsecured loans to the self employed.
-In some branches they will indirectly tell you to part with TKK so that your loan can move fast of which if you can part with something small you will get a loan faster than if you have the ability to repay it.Some time back heads have rolled for this.
-Also,the compliance department at the branch level credits your account directly once the loan is approved at the branch.In other banks that have been in this market for long, creditng of loans is done from a central place at the head office after another compliance team goes thru your application.
-If a customer applies for an ATM card,once the card is processed,both the card and the PIN are held at the branch.(Banks with experience in this will hold the card and mail the PIN to your address i.e if they are not processing the card for you as you wait to put your own PIN).This is another avenue for inhouse fraud to occur.
-I think their idea of merging their compliance department with other departments is ill adviced.
-They would have scrapped other irrelevant departments and used this resources to strengthen their compliance and controls department if they have one.Their aggressive lending requires an idependent compliance department better than the one they have currently.Bila compliance pesa zita endelea kupotea.May be this shake up ni juu pesa zimepotea or Bad Debts zime ongezeka.
-This bank has very good ideas but there is so much they have been taking for granted and if the time to bring order has come then be it.
ogutuwalwanga
#13 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:49:10 PM
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The reason why i love this counter is when the know it all continue with their bla bla about EB,the share price is ever rising.I was a victim of the bla bla group in 2006 and sold my shares at 90 shilling only to see the share hit 300 not againg.This week alone this counter have made a significant improvement to my financial standing.
sparkly
#14 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:59:34 PM
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Not another equity thread! Nevertheless informative. @chaliwong TKK to have your loan processed? A serious allegation on the bank's integrity, anyone experienced this?
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e_kijana
#15 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:23:49 PM
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@Chaliwong says"-Their compliance department is their greatest undiong espesially in giving unsecured loans to the self employed.
"

Does he know what he's talking about or just trying to sound knowledgeable? the compliance dept is handing out loans while there is a "Credit Department" guys!!!
kyt
#16 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 7:37:55 PM
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Some people like chali , who cannot differenciate btwn advances n complainance, are just fokojembe. Fujinga fuchinga. Lol!
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poundfoolish
#17 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 8:17:07 PM
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i also think their market niche has been the hardest hit by the economic downturn.. Wanjiku has tones of hope & dreams worth millions but no solid value(cash) to back the hopes and dreams...
i can imagine whereas customer would make several withdrawals in a week, each costing him 50/=, to make ends meet. they now have to make one huge withdrawal to meet the same needs,yet still only paying 50bob for the services..
an incase they get any money.. they dont think of 'safe keeping' it with the banks..

would i be true to say Bank perfomance would very much be influenced by their mkt niches..? lower end niched being hit harder than upper end banks..

layoffs: good news to big shareholders, bad news for rank and file.. tsk!
chaliwong
#18 Posted : Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:53:22 PM
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@kyt What is compliance???? I mean at Equity??

You are even making it worse. Does it mean that in this bank where you are a majority shareholder that the credit department and compliance are two different departments???

Now I understand where your emotions are coming from.Even when they are doing a major streamlining on the same you still dont get it.
If it has taken them an IPO and a share split to realise all this,when will You get it???

As much as your making money on this counter your company is working hard to stop loosing money.So tulia baba alafu uangalia in future "provision for you know what" itakuwa namna gani alafu hiyo jembe uendelee kukaa nayo juu una ihitaji.
kyt
#19 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:16:52 AM
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Nice try chali, nice try! Am not a shareholder of equity BTW! FYI, I work in another bank so please, spare your breath! Or is keyboard....keypad.
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E2D
#20 Posted : Thursday, January 21, 2010 4:39:38 AM
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Me, hav an issue with the EB staff especially those @ the tellers. unlike most banks in kenya where tellers are very serious with serving customers, EB cashiers have some kinda attitude. as in they never care how long customers queue in the banking hall.was once in the hall @ Donholm Branch and the queue was quite long.the time was @ 1430hrs.my dears i queued for like 2 half hrs jst to get a service coz only 3 tellers were operational. other tellers had xters who were busy storying n probably gossipin.could that be the service value for ma penny or wat? any other nasty experiences???
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