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CIC Insurance 2019
Ericsson
#1 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2019 8:13:49 PM
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HY 2019 results are out
Net earned premiums up 0.04% to ksh.7.1bn from 7.082bn
Net claims and policy holders up 7.9% to ksh.5bn for 4.669bn in 2018
Profit before tax @ksh.146.839mn
Profit after tax at ksh.20.9mn
EPS plunges 95% to ksh.0.01

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Horton
#2 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2019 9:11:05 PM
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Ericsson wrote:
HY 2019 results are out
Net earned premiums up 0.04% to ksh.7.1bn from 7.082bn
Net claims and policy holders up 7.9% to ksh.5bn for 4.669bn in 2018
Profit before tax @ksh.146.839mn
Profit after tax at ksh.20.9mn
EPS plunges 95% to ksh.0.01


Yikes.
Fyatu
#3 Posted : Saturday, July 27, 2019 11:51:48 PM
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This is commendable of CIC for reporting early even before wazungu and/or SA controlled banks e.g., CFC,Barclays and Stanchart. Some firms here at NSE have issued profit warning for FY 2019 and they have not even reported on FY 2018. In the States(USA), bigger firms with revenues > Ksh. 1 trillion and balance sheets of > kshs 10 trillion report 2 days after or even on the last day of the quarter. Other NSE listed firms should emulate CIC.
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VituVingiSana
#4 Posted : Sunday, July 28, 2019 1:23:33 AM
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Fyatu wrote:
This is commendable of CIC for reporting early even before wazungu and/or SA controlled banks e.g., CFC,Barclays and Stanchart. Some firms here at NSE have issued profit warning for FY 2019 and they have not even reported on FY 2018. In the States(USA), bigger firms with revenues > Ksh. 1 trillion and balance sheets of > kshs 10 trillion report 2 days after or even on the last day of the quarter. Other NSE listed firms should emulate CIC.
All that jazz about reporting faster is fine but what went wrong in 1H?
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xxxxx
#5 Posted : Sunday, July 28, 2019 1:20:31 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
This is commendable of CIC for reporting early even before wazungu and/or SA controlled banks e.g., CFC,Barclays and Stanchart. Some firms here at NSE have issued profit warning for FY 2019 and they have not even reported on FY 2018. In the States(USA), bigger firms with revenues > Ksh. 1 trillion and balance sheets of > kshs 10 trillion report 2 days after or even on the last day of the quarter. Other NSE listed firms should emulate CIC.
All that jazz about reporting faster is fine but what went wrong in 1H?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly good question.....infact why is it that all our insurers underwrite at Losses year in year out?.The answer to these questions may explain why the Jinnah's are putting their stakes in these insurance companies on the chopping block.
Ericsson
#6 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2019 1:13:49 PM
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xxxxx wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
This is commendable of CIC for reporting early even before wazungu and/or SA controlled banks e.g., CFC,Barclays and Stanchart. Some firms here at NSE have issued profit warning for FY 2019 and they have not even reported on FY 2018. In the States(USA), bigger firms with revenues > Ksh. 1 trillion and balance sheets of > kshs 10 trillion report 2 days after or even on the last day of the quarter. Other NSE listed firms should emulate CIC.
All that jazz about reporting faster is fine but what went wrong in 1H?

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly good question.....infact why is it that all our insurers underwrite at Losses year in year out?.The answer to these questions may explain why the Jinnah's are putting their stakes in these insurance companies on the chopping block.

Consolidation is needed in the insurance industry,too many players
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mlennyma
#7 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2019 2:37:01 PM
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Tough.. . those claims are very high,i hope there is no inside job in eating them.
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Ericsson
#8 Posted : Monday, July 29, 2019 10:19:59 PM
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mlennyma wrote:
Tough.. . those claims are very high,i hope there is no inside job in eating them.


The company says losses in the life business caused by adverse group life claims.
General insurance unit made a pre-tax profit of ksh.326mn
Asset management pretax profit of ksh.104mn
Subsidiaries made a combined pretax profit of ksh.50mn

https://www.businessdail...15312-gf3u37z/index.html
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Ericsson
#9 Posted : Tuesday, July 30, 2019 5:09:46 PM
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cash generated from operations was a whopping Kshs. 1.96b! The business is roaring, despite one-offs.
Regional subsidiaries contributed 10% to GWPs (Gross Written Premiums).
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heri
#10 Posted : Wednesday, July 31, 2019 9:56:21 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
cash generated from operations was a whopping Kshs. 1.96b! The business is roaring, despite one-offs.
Regional subsidiaries contributed 10% to GWPs (Gross Written Premiums).


But they need alot more to pay the bond
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