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Ruai Sewage(The reservoir).
mkeiy
#1 Posted : Monday, January 08, 2018 1:42:29 PM
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Location: Nairobi
Driving along the Eastern bypass or on Kangundo Rd, the stench is becoming unbearable every passing day.

Years ago, I never used to get such stench and I believe sewerage treatment was being done the right way then.
Now it's just raw sewage.
This is the same water that is irrigating the mangoes, oranges, watermelons, pawpaws etc downstream river Athi past Kilimambogo and beyond.

NEMA, Nairobi Water etc.
Are they aware?
Do they care?
Do we care?
Who cares?
Where does the buck stop?
Or as some guy said, "the buck doesn't stop. It continues?"
FRM2011
#2 Posted : Monday, January 08, 2018 2:38:52 PM
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Joined: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,459
mkeiy wrote:
Driving along the Eastern bypass or on Kangundo Rd, the stench is becoming unbearable every passing day.

Years ago, I never used to get such stench and I believe sewerage treatment was being done the right way then.
Now it's just raw sewage.
This is the same water that is irrigating the mangoes, oranges, watermelons, pawpaws etc downstream river Athi past Kilimambogo and beyond.

NEMA, Nairobi Water etc.
Are they aware?
Do they care?
Do we care?
Who cares?
Where does the buck stop?
Or as some guy said, "the buck doesn't stop. It continues?"


I have dealt with NEMA and i can tell you their only deliverable is collecting fees for EIA approvals from developers.

A while back, fresh produce exporters who had contracted farmers along Athi river had their exports rejected for containing high levels of lead. That river is dangerously polluted.

And its the same river that feeds Nairobi with fresh kales and other vegetables. I would want to say God will protect us but I doubt even God has time for our love for self-destruction.
mkeiy
#3 Posted : Monday, January 08, 2018 4:04:51 PM
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Joined: 1/27/2012
Posts: 851
Location: Nairobi
FRM2011 wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Driving along the Eastern bypass or on Kangundo Rd, the stench is becoming unbearable every passing day.

Years ago, I never used to get such stench and I believe sewerage treatment was being done the right way then.
Now it's just raw sewage.
This is the same water that is irrigating the mangoes, oranges, watermelons, pawpaws etc downstream river Athi past Kilimambogo and beyond.

NEMA, Nairobi Water etc.
Are they aware?
Do they care?
Do we care?
Who cares?
Where does the buck stop?
Or as some guy said, "the buck doesn't stop. It continues?"


I have dealt with NEMA and i can tell you their only deliverable is collecting fees for EIA approvals from developers.

A while back, fresh produce exporters who had contracted farmers along Athi river had their exports rejected for containing high levels of lead. That river is dangerously polluted.

And its the same river that feeds Nairobi with fresh kales and other vegetables. I would want to say God will protect us but I doubt even God has time for our love for self-destruction.


Very sad.
And to think they (NEMA,Nairobi Water, Kebs etc) eat the same fruits and vegetables, facing the same risks and not seem to care.
You can't help but wonder.
Mchawi aliroga Kenya ni kufa alikufaa ama?

So long as you are in Nairobi Metropolitan, chances are everyday you are consuming contaminated produce from river Athi basin. In this mess,tuko pamoja.

Could this be where huge chunk of our cancer is coming from?
Why not have a campaign of some sort to fix Nairobi sewerage problem?


Iganamagana
#4 Posted : Monday, January 08, 2018 4:06:19 PM
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Posts: 1,437
FRM2011 wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Driving along the Eastern bypass or on Kangundo Rd, the stench is becoming unbearable every passing day.

Years ago, I never used to get such stench and I believe sewerage treatment was being done the right way then.
Now it's just raw sewage.
This is the same water that is irrigating the mangoes, oranges, watermelons, pawpaws etc downstream river Athi past Kilimambogo and beyond.

NEMA, Nairobi Water etc.
Are they aware?
Do they care?
Do we care?
Who cares?
Where does the buck stop?
Or as some guy said, "the buck doesn't stop. It continues?"


I have dealt with NEMA and i can tell you their only deliverable is collecting fees for EIA approvals from developers.

A while back, fresh produce exporters who had contracted farmers along Athi river had their exports rejected for containing high levels of lead. That river is dangerously polluted.

And its the same river that feeds Nairobi with fresh kales and other vegetables. I would want to say God will protect us but I doubt even God has time for our love for self-destruction.


Sad. That's how we will loose the lucrative European market. NEMA needs to wake up. Anyway, they have failed to tame noisy neighborhood bars and Matatus.
majimaji
#5 Posted : Monday, January 08, 2018 4:52:24 PM
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Posts: 1,162
mkeiy wrote:
Driving along the Eastern bypass or on Kangundo Rd, the stench is becoming unbearable every passing day.

Years ago, I never used to get such stench and I believe sewerage treatment was being done the right way then.
Now it's just raw sewage.
This is the same water that is irrigating the mangoes, oranges, watermelons, pawpaws etc downstream river Athi past Kilimambogo and beyond.

NEMA, Nairobi Water etc.
Are they aware?
Do they care?
Do we care?
Who cares?
Where does the buck stop?
Or as some guy said, "the buck doesn't stop. It continues?"


Before making conclusions, it is good to confirm your facts. What smells is the Nairobi river as you cross it, not the sewerage plant. In fact the treated sewage water helps to dilute the river as it has a low BoD load compared to the river. The Nairobi river needs to be cleaned up and that calls for people in kibera, mathare, mukuru, kayole, city centre, kileleshwa, lavington etc to stop discharging sewage and storm water into the river.
murchr
#6 Posted : Monday, January 08, 2018 5:18:24 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
majimaji wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Driving along the Eastern bypass or on Kangundo Rd, the stench is becoming unbearable every passing day.

Years ago, I never used to get such stench and I believe sewerage treatment was being done the right way then.
Now it's just raw sewage.
This is the same water that is irrigating the mangoes, oranges, watermelons, pawpaws etc downstream river Athi past Kilimambogo and beyond.

NEMA, Nairobi Water etc.
Are they aware?
Do they care?
Do we care?
Who cares?
Where does the buck stop?
Or as some guy said, "the buck doesn't stop. It continues?"


Before making conclusions, it is good to confirm your facts. What smells is the Nairobi river as you cross it, not the sewerage plant. In fact the treated sewage water helps to dilute the river as it has a low BoD load compared to the river. The Nairobi river needs to be cleaned up and that calls for people in kibera, mathare, mukuru, kayole, city centre, kileleshwa, lavington etc to stop discharging sewage and storm water into the river.



Wueh! Pray So what is BoD? And given that most of the vegetable consumed in Nairobi is grown along Nairobi River, will we ever see an end to cholera really?
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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hardwood
#7 Posted : Monday, January 08, 2018 5:44:48 PM
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Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
murchr wrote:
majimaji wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Driving along the Eastern bypass or on Kangundo Rd, the stench is becoming unbearable every passing day.

Years ago, I never used to get such stench and I believe sewerage treatment was being done the right way then.
Now it's just raw sewage.
This is the same water that is irrigating the mangoes, oranges, watermelons, pawpaws etc downstream river Athi past Kilimambogo and beyond.

NEMA, Nairobi Water etc.
Are they aware?
Do they care?
Do we care?
Who cares?
Where does the buck stop?
Or as some guy said, "the buck doesn't stop. It continues?"


Before making conclusions, it is good to confirm your facts. What smells is the Nairobi river as you cross it, not the sewerage plant. In fact the treated sewage water helps to dilute the river as it has a low BoD load compared to the river. The Nairobi river needs to be cleaned up and that calls for people in kibera, mathare, mukuru, kayole, city centre, kileleshwa, lavington etc to stop discharging sewage and storm water into the river.



Wueh! Pray So what is BoD? And given that most of the vegetable consumed in Nairobi is grown along Nairobi River, will we ever see an end to cholera really?


BoD = Biological oxygen demand <<RINK>>. Anyway what should be worrying you is not the smell or cholera but the heavy metals in the vegetables grown along the river, chemicals which emanate from industries. The heavy metals such as lead can cause cancer. You can easily treat cholera but cancer.......
murchr
#8 Posted : Monday, January 08, 2018 5:50:56 PM
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Joined: 2/26/2012
Posts: 15,980
hardwood wrote:
murchr wrote:
majimaji wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Driving along the Eastern bypass or on Kangundo Rd, the stench is becoming unbearable every passing day.

Years ago, I never used to get such stench and I believe sewerage treatment was being done the right way then.
Now it's just raw sewage.
This is the same water that is irrigating the mangoes, oranges, watermelons, pawpaws etc downstream river Athi past Kilimambogo and beyond.

NEMA, Nairobi Water etc.
Are they aware?
Do they care?
Do we care?
Who cares?
Where does the buck stop?
Or as some guy said, "the buck doesn't stop. It continues?"


Before making conclusions, it is good to confirm your facts. What smells is the Nairobi river as you cross it, not the sewerage plant. In fact the treated sewage water helps to dilute the river as it has a low BoD load compared to the river. The Nairobi river needs to be cleaned up and that calls for people in kibera, mathare, mukuru, kayole, city centre, kileleshwa, lavington etc to stop discharging sewage and storm water into the river.



Wueh! Pray So what is BoD? And given that most of the vegetable consumed in Nairobi is grown along Nairobi River, will we ever see an end to cholera really?


BoD = Biological oxygen demand <<RINK>>. Anyway what should be worrying you is not the smell or cholera but the heavy metals in the vegetables grown along the river, chemicals which emanate from industries. The heavy metals such as lead can cause cancer. You can easily treat cholera but cancer.......


Indeed!. NEMA is totally useless
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
.
hardwood
#9 Posted : Monday, January 08, 2018 6:40:53 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 7/28/2015
Posts: 9,562
Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
majimaji wrote:
mkeiy wrote:
Driving along the Eastern bypass or on Kangundo Rd, the stench is becoming unbearable every passing day.

Years ago, I never used to get such stench and I believe sewerage treatment was being done the right way then.
Now it's just raw sewage.
This is the same water that is irrigating the mangoes, oranges, watermelons, pawpaws etc downstream river Athi past Kilimambogo and beyond.

NEMA, Nairobi Water etc.
Are they aware?
Do they care?
Do we care?
Who cares?
Where does the buck stop?
Or as some guy said, "the buck doesn't stop. It continues?"


Before making conclusions, it is good to confirm your facts. What smells is the Nairobi river as you cross it, not the sewerage plant. In fact the treated sewage water helps to dilute the river as it has a low BoD load compared to the river. The Nairobi river needs to be cleaned up and that calls for people in kibera, mathare, mukuru, kayole, city centre, kileleshwa, lavington etc to stop discharging sewage and storm water into the river.


I thought storm water should go into the river?
FRM2011
#10 Posted : Monday, January 08, 2018 6:51:52 PM
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Joined: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,459

On the Nairobi river clean-up, I imagine this can be done. A joint effort between the Ministry, Nairobi county and NEMA can get the desired results.

I salute Madam Judy Wakhungu on the plastic papers ban, but she didn't attempt this seemingly low hanging fruit.
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