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Pesa Nane
#1 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 5:10:52 PM
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#2 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 5:12:50 PM
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
murchr
#3 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 5:25:19 PM
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Bottomless pit
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Pesa Nane
#4 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 5:34:43 PM
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Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
Pesa Nane
#5 Posted : Thursday, August 17, 2017 5:42:29 PM
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Nooren Hirjani, New CFO
Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
obiero
#6 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 7:21:14 AM
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Location: nairobi
Another loss making entity in a growing economy! Tano tena? SMH

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
sparkly
#7 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 8:34:34 AM
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obiero wrote:
Another loss making entity in a growing economy! Tano tena? SMH


H2 perfomance should be better.
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actuarywahisa
#8 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 9:08:55 AM
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When tourist numbers have been reported to have been picking up! sigh!
There are too many opportunities all around. Open your eyes and maybe you'll spot one
sparkly
#9 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 9:26:25 AM
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actuarywahisa wrote:
When tourist numbers have been reported to have been picking up! sigh!


Tourist high season is August-December
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VituVingiSana
#10 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 10:06:47 AM
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Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,118
Location: Nairobi
I like TPSEA [I have a few shares but not as part of my core portfolio] for the management chops. They have done well in a tough industry.

I was at Serena Nairobi and it is a construction site mess! They are refurbishing the hotel as well as building a new extension on the parking lot bordering Kenyatta Ave. New rooms, banquet facilities, etc are on the horizon. The refurbishment must have hit the bottomline was guests avoid construction zones.

Bottomline: The group is positioning itself for the next 5+ years...
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Mkondoa Macho
#11 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 10:59:54 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
I like TPSEA [I have a few shares but not as part of my core portfolio] for the management chops. They have done well in a tough industry.

I was at Serena Nairobi and it is a construction site mess! They are refurbishing the hotel as well as building a new extension on the parking lot bordering Kenyatta Ave. New rooms, banquet facilities, etc are on the horizon. The refurbishment must have hit the bottomline was guests avoid construction zones.

Bottomline: The group is positioning itself for the next 5+ years...

Until these developments translate to concrete results/profits, I would never touch this company.
sparkly
#12 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 2:21:45 PM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
Mkondoa Macho wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I like TPSEA [I have a few shares but not as part of my core portfolio] for the management chops. They have done well in a tough industry.

I was at Serena Nairobi and it is a construction site mess! They are refurbishing the hotel as well as building a new extension on the parking lot bordering Kenyatta Ave. New rooms, banquet facilities, etc are on the horizon. The refurbishment must have hit the bottomline was guests avoid construction zones.

Bottomline: The group is positioning itself for the next 5+ years...

Until these developments translate to concrete results/profits, I would never touch this company.


TPS is ~15% of my portfolio. They have done well in light of the tough operating enviropment and ongoing refurbishments.

When the developments translate to concrete profits, i will gladly sell to you at ~Kshs 60.

For now i remain in accumulation mode.
Life is short. Live passionately.
heri
#13 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 2:25:13 PM
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Location: nairobi
sparkly wrote:
Mkondoa Macho wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I like TPSEA [I have a few shares but not as part of my core portfolio] for the management chops. They have done well in a tough industry.

I was at Serena Nairobi and it is a construction site mess! They are refurbishing the hotel as well as building a new extension on the parking lot bordering Kenyatta Ave. New rooms, banquet facilities, etc are on the horizon. The refurbishment must have hit the bottomline was guests avoid construction zones.

Bottomline: The group is positioning itself for the next 5+ years...

Until these developments translate to concrete results/profits, I would never touch this company.


TPS is ~15% of my portfolio. They have done well in light of the tough operating enviropment and ongoing refurbishments.

When the developments translate to concrete profits, i will gladly sell to you at ~Kshs 60.

For now i remain in accumulation mode.


You don't think the expansion of bed space in Nairobi that continues to happen will create very stiff competition?
obiero
#14 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 2:30:09 PM
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Joined: 6/23/2009
Posts: 13,530
Location: nairobi
heri wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Mkondoa Macho wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I like TPSEA [I have a few shares but not as part of my core portfolio] for the management chops. They have done well in a tough industry.

I was at Serena Nairobi and it is a construction site mess! They are refurbishing the hotel as well as building a new extension on the parking lot bordering Kenyatta Ave. New rooms, banquet facilities, etc are on the horizon. The refurbishment must have hit the bottomline was guests avoid construction zones.

Bottomline: The group is positioning itself for the next 5+ years...

Until these developments translate to concrete results/profits, I would never touch this company.


TPS is ~15% of my portfolio. They have done well in light of the tough operating enviropment and ongoing refurbishments.

When the developments translate to concrete profits, i will gladly sell to you at ~Kshs 60.

For now i remain in accumulation mode.


You don't think the expansion of bed space in Nairobi that continues to happen will create very stiff competition?

It's a walking corpse masquerading as a company. Not due to management but the two guys

HF 90,000 ABP 3.83; KQ 414,100 ABP 7.92; MTN 23,800 ABP 6.45
sparkly
#15 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 2:34:12 PM
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Posts: 8,083
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heri wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Mkondoa Macho wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I like TPSEA [I have a few shares but not as part of my core portfolio] for the management chops. They have done well in a tough industry.

I was at Serena Nairobi and it is a construction site mess! They are refurbishing the hotel as well as building a new extension on the parking lot bordering Kenyatta Ave. New rooms, banquet facilities, etc are on the horizon. The refurbishment must have hit the bottomline was guests avoid construction zones.

Bottomline: The group is positioning itself for the next 5+ years...

Until these developments translate to concrete results/profits, I would never touch this company.


TPS is ~15% of my portfolio. They have done well in light of the tough operating enviropment and ongoing refurbishments.

When the developments translate to concrete profits, i will gladly sell to you at ~Kshs 60.

For now i remain in accumulation mode.


You don't think the expansion of bed space in Nairobi that continues to happen will create very stiff competition?


I don't bother with macro analysis. I look at the company and make my investment decision. A good company in a competitive industry is better than a bad company in a non-competitive industry.
Life is short. Live passionately.
Aguytrying
#16 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 2:50:19 PM
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Joined: 7/11/2010
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I thought we had turned the corner after last year.H2 is where they make their profits so let's wait and see.
Last 5 years have been really tough for this company, the next 5 should be better now that alshabaab almost fully contained. No ebola
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
Ericsson
#17 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 2:53:19 PM
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Joined: 12/4/2009
Posts: 10,701
Location: NAIROBI
Slow down in the economy and expenses incurred in the refurbishment of serena hotel nairobi are the cause.
Hope for uptick in the economy to boost bed occupancy
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Wealth=Income + Investments - Lifestyle
the deal
#18 Posted : Friday, August 18, 2017 4:19:57 PM
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Joined: 9/25/2009
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Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
The Number of beds around Nairobi is increasing very fast...refurbishments may not yield much...Its a case of refurbish or get left behind...in the early 2000's, Serena was the ultimate experience... now there are 3 or 4 better places in Nairobi...apart from security issues...East Africa is becoming an expensive tourist destination compared to Southern Africa due to the weak rand...its boom time for tour operators here

Check out this article here http://www.capitalfm.co....g-better-hotels-nairobi/
sparkly
#19 Posted : Saturday, August 19, 2017 8:39:11 AM
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Joined: 9/23/2009
Posts: 8,083
Location: Enk are Nyirobi
obiero wrote:
heri wrote:
sparkly wrote:
Mkondoa Macho wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
I like TPSEA [I have a few shares but not as part of my core portfolio] for the management chops. They have done well in a tough industry.

I was at Serena Nairobi and it is a construction site mess! They are refurbishing the hotel as well as building a new extension on the parking lot bordering Kenyatta Ave. New rooms, banquet facilities, etc are on the horizon. The refurbishment must have hit the bottomline was guests avoid construction zones.

Bottomline: The group is positioning itself for the next 5+ years...

Until these developments translate to concrete results/profits, I would never touch this company.


TPS is ~15% of my portfolio. They have done well in light of the tough operating enviropment and ongoing refurbishments.

When the developments translate to concrete profits, i will gladly sell to you at ~Kshs 60.

For now i remain in accumulation mode.


You don't think the expansion of bed space in Nairobi that continues to happen will create very stiff competition?

It's a walking corpse masquerading as a company. Not due to management but the two guys


Net Asset Per Share is ~KES 47

Quote:
TPS Eastern Africa Limited is a holding company. The Company, through its subsidiaries, owns and operates hotel and lodge facilities in Eastern Africa, as well as serves the business and tourist markets. The Company operates through various segments, including Kenya Hotels, Kenya Lodges, Tanzania Lodges, Uganda Hotels and All other segments. The Company's subsidiaries consist of Tourism Promotion Services (Kenya) Limited, which includes Nairobi Serena Hotel, Amboseli Serena Safari Lodge, Mara Serena Safari Lodge and Kilaguni Serena Safari Lodge; Tourism Promotion Services (Zanzibar) Limited, which includes Zanzibar Serena Hotel; Tourism Promotion Services (Tanzania) Limited, which includes Kirawira Serena Camp, Lake Manyara Serena Safari Lodge, Serena Mivumo River Lodge and Selous Serena Camp, and TPS (Uganda) Limited, among others. The Company's other properties include Lake Victoria Serena Resort, Uganda and Polana Serena Hotel, Mozambique.
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sparkly
#20 Posted : Saturday, August 19, 2017 9:28:14 AM
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@Pesa nane please post the balance sheet. Will be intetesting to see the level of loans
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