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KenolKobil HY 2017 profit before tax up 20%
murchr
#1 Posted : Wednesday, August 02, 2017 6:50:52 PM
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(Reuters) wrote:
Aug 2 - KENOLKOBIL LTD:

* HY ENDED JUNE 2017 SALES 72.64 BILLION SHILLINGS VERSUS 39.94 BILLION SHILLINGS YEAR AGO

* HY ENDED JUNE 2017 PROFIT BEFORE TAX OF 2.08 BILLION SHILLINGS VERSUS 1.73 BILLION SHILLINGS YEAR AGO

* SAYS DECLARED INTERIM DIVIDEND OF 0.30 SHILLINGS PER SHARE, PAYABLE ON OR AROUND OCT 1, 2017 Further company coverage: (Bangalore.newsroom@thomsonreuters.com)
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obiero
#2 Posted : Wednesday, August 02, 2017 8:26:27 PM
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murchr wrote:
(Reuters) wrote:
Aug 2 - KENOLKOBIL LTD:

* HY ENDED JUNE 2017 SALES 72.64 BILLION SHILLINGS VERSUS 39.94 BILLION SHILLINGS YEAR AGO

* HY ENDED JUNE 2017 PROFIT BEFORE TAX OF 2.08 BILLION SHILLINGS VERSUS 1.73 BILLION SHILLINGS YEAR AGO

* SAYS DECLARED INTERIM DIVIDEND OF 0.30 SHILLINGS PER SHARE, PAYABLE ON OR AROUND OCT 1, 2017 Further company coverage: (Bangalore.newsroom@thomsonreuters.com)


All that increase in sales has come to nought
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muganda
#3 Posted : Wednesday, August 02, 2017 9:08:13 PM
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alotoftalk
#4 Posted : Wednesday, August 02, 2017 10:22:29 PM
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The Kenyan petroleum marketing business is a financing play and KK has mastered it. Taken advantage of lower oil prices and lower interest rates to ramped up sales while cutting down debt and finance costs. Great set of results.
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mlennyma
#5 Posted : Wednesday, August 02, 2017 10:34:46 PM
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alotoftalk wrote:


The Kenyan petroleum marketing business is a financing play and KK has mastered it. Taken advantage of lower oil prices and lower interest rates to ramped up sales while cutting down debt and finance costs. Great set of results.

some 300million for kprl set aside na bado tunakula 30cts which is comfortable eps of 1bob at half year
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Realtreaty
#6 Posted : Wednesday, August 02, 2017 11:55:56 PM
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Applause Applause Applause Applause Applause Pray Pray Pray Pray
After a good Voting and bringing back the govt that is helping growth KK will be a share to reckon with.
VituVingiSana
#7 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 12:22:43 AM
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obiero wrote:
murchr wrote:
(Reuters) wrote:
Aug 2 - KENOLKOBIL LTD:

* HY ENDED JUNE 2017 SALES 72.64 BILLION SHILLINGS VERSUS 39.94 BILLION SHILLINGS YEAR AGO

* HY ENDED JUNE 2017 PROFIT BEFORE TAX OF 2.08 BILLION SHILLINGS VERSUS 1.73 BILLION SHILLINGS YEAR AGO

* SAYS DECLARED INTERIM DIVIDEND OF 0.30 SHILLINGS PER SHARE, PAYABLE ON OR AROUND OCT 1, 2017 Further company coverage: (Bangalore.newsroom@thomsonreuters.com)


All that increase in sales has come to nought
..

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Jealous much?
KK will pay more in a single interim dividend on a single share than KQ has made in profits in 5 years! Applause Applause Applause

And this profit is AFTER providing 300mn for KPRL and other legal costs/payouts. Drool Drool Drool Sweeter stuff coming in 2H 2017.

Banks want to lend KK money unlike KQ using GoK to arm-twist banks into lending money! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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mlennyma
#8 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 6:47:29 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
obiero wrote:
murchr wrote:
(Reuters) wrote:
Aug 2 - KENOLKOBIL LTD:

* HY ENDED JUNE 2017 SALES 72.64 BILLION SHILLINGS VERSUS 39.94 BILLION SHILLINGS YEAR AGO

* HY ENDED JUNE 2017 PROFIT BEFORE TAX OF 2.08 BILLION SHILLINGS VERSUS 1.73 BILLION SHILLINGS YEAR AGO

* SAYS DECLARED INTERIM DIVIDEND OF 0.30 SHILLINGS PER SHARE, PAYABLE ON OR AROUND OCT 1, 2017 Further company coverage: (Bangalore.newsroom@thomsonreuters.com)


All that increase in sales has come to nought
..

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Jealous much?
KK will pay more in a single interim dividend on a single share than KQ has made in profits in 5 years! Applause Applause Applause

And this profit is AFTER providing 300mn for KPRL and other legal costs/payouts. Drool Drool Drool Sweeter stuff coming in 2H 2017.

Banks want to lend KK money unlike KQ using GoK to arm-twist banks into lending money! Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly

that man who won the pangani legal tussle was paid and still no major impact and the amount was almost the equivalent of the kprl provision they have made...we were paid 30cts recently and now another 30cts and still expect atleast 40 cts year end
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VituVingiSana
#9 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 8:23:14 AM
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So @miennyma - KK could have had almost 1.8bn in PAT [300mn KPRL + 300mn Pangani]
There may be a KPRL amount left to write-off in 2H but it looks good!
FY EPS even with the write-offs could exceed 2/-.

If GoK settles the KPRL yield shift losses for the industry after the elections or in 2018-19, then that's just extra cream on the cake! Total has sued GoK/KPRL, KPRL has tanks/land it can sell to KPC and the industry will pressurize KPRL/GoK to settle this.

Doesn't KPC also owe KK 6bn+ awarded to KK in an arbitration? This matter is slowly winding itself through the courts. Perhaps another 2 years?
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#10 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 9:37:27 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
So @miennyma - KK could have had almost 1.8bn in PAT [300mn KPRL + 300mn Pangani]
There may be a KPRL amount left to write-off in 2H but it looks good!
FY EPS even with the write-offs could exceed 2/-.

If GoK settles the KPRL yield shift losses for the industry after the elections or in 2018-19, then that's just extra cream on the cake! Total has sued GoK/KPRL, KPRL has tanks/land it can sell to KPC and the industry will pressurize KPRL/GoK to settle this.

Doesn't KPC also owe KK 6bn+ awarded to KK in an arbitration? This matter is slowly winding itself through the courts. Perhaps another 2 years?


Excellent performance. An eps of 2.00 will definitely translate to 20 bob per share. We've been patient and the rewards keep coming
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VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 9:38:53 AM
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Aguytrying wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
So @miennyma - KK could have had almost 1.8bn in PAT [300mn KPRL + 300mn Pangani]
There may be a KPRL amount left to write-off in 2H but it looks good!
FY EPS even with the write-offs could exceed 2/-.

If GoK settles the KPRL yield shift losses for the industry after the elections or in 2018-19, then that's just extra cream on the cake! Total has sued GoK/KPRL, KPRL has tanks/land it can sell to KPC and the industry will pressurize KPRL/GoK to settle this.

Doesn't KPC also owe KK 6bn+ awarded to KK in an arbitration? This matter is slowly winding itself through the courts. Perhaps another 2 years?


Excellent performance. An eps of 2.00 will definitely translate to 20 bob per share. We've been patient and the rewards keep coming

Perhaps a takeover? [Though I am happy with the current status too!]
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Ericsson
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 10:26:25 AM
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KK should do an acquisition of an oil firm rival.They are doing well and the owners reaping benefits.
Don't see the need of the owners selling the business.
David Ohana is doing a good job
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mlennyma
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 11:42:01 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
KK should do an acquisition of an oil firm rival.They are doing well and the owners reaping benefits.
Don't see the need of the owners selling the business.
David Ohana is doing a good job

He is the top earning CEO in kenya. .not even safaricom
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winston
#14 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 2:46:22 PM
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Kudos...almost doubling top line!
Gatheuzi
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 03, 2017 8:44:36 PM
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winston wrote:
Kudos...almost doubling top line!

Topline has more to do with rise in oil prices, though volumes could also be up.
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winston
#16 Posted : Friday, August 04, 2017 9:12:02 AM
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Gatheuzi wrote:
winston wrote:
Kudos...almost doubling top line!

Topline has more to do with rise in oil prices, though volumes could also be up.


True...if prices didnt double...then they also grew volumes
h2s
#17 Posted : Friday, August 04, 2017 10:34:19 AM
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mlennyma
#18 Posted : Friday, August 04, 2017 2:30:02 PM
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This story sounds like a puma condition
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winston
#19 Posted : Friday, August 04, 2017 2:39:20 PM
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mlennyma wrote:

This story sounds like a puma condition


What about the other side of the story 'The KPRL made a counterclaim of Sh1.2 billion from the oil marketer for allegedly defaulting on payment for petroleum products, leading to a stalemate'

Did KPRL also writeoff?
VituVingiSana
#20 Posted : Friday, August 04, 2017 2:48:44 PM
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winston wrote:
mlennyma wrote:

This story sounds like a puma condition


What about the other side of the story 'The KPRL made a counterclaim of Sh1.2 billion from the oil marketer for allegedly defaulting on payment for petroleum products, leading to a stalemate'

Did KPRL also writeoff?

A write-off by KK doesn't mean they have given up on the claim from KPRL. They are cleaning the books but I expect a global settlement to happen in the future and KK will "write-back" the amount.

As for KPRL's claim, if they succeed then they can offset it vs what they owe KK.
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