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Pesa Nane
#1 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 11:41:29 AM
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Pesa Nane
#2 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 11:49:27 AM
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The value of the Company's holdings in listed companies declined by Ksh. 36 million since August 2016 compared to a loss of Kshs 7 million in the half year ended 31st January 2016


#OgopaBear
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#3 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 12:57:21 PM
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What's worrying is the turnover is down. Was there a reason given? Do they disclose volumes?
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Pesa Nane
#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 1:29:20 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:

What's worrying is the turnover is down. Was there a reason given? Do they disclose volumes?


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Turnover for the first 6 months of the year reduced by 31% compared to the corresponding period in the previous year due to lower demand in the local and export markets as a result of economic and commercial factors

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#5 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 4:31:44 PM
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Wapi link ya full results?
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#6 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 4:59:38 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

What's worrying is the turnover is down. Was there a reason given? Do they disclose volumes?


Quote:
Turnover for the first 6 months of the year reduced by 31% compared to the corresponding period in the previous year due to lower demand in the local and export markets as a result of economic and commercial factors



Sad Sad Sad The sky is not falling ....
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#7 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 5:26:27 PM
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@pesa nane,wapi link ya full results?
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Pesa Nane
#8 Posted : Wednesday, March 29, 2017 10:02:34 PM
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Ebenyo wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:


@pesa nane,wapi link ya full results?


HERE
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#9 Posted : Thursday, March 30, 2017 8:02:54 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
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The value of the Company's holdings in listed companies declined by Ksh. 36 million since August 2016 compared to a loss of Kshs 7 million in the half year ended 31st January 2016


#OgopaBear


@eightcents,
What do you think is the future of this business?
Any hope of better tiding?
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Pesa Nane
#10 Posted : Thursday, March 30, 2017 9:46:21 AM
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Wondergirl wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
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The value of the Company's holdings in listed companies declined by Ksh. 36 million since August 2016 compared to a loss of Kshs 7 million in the half year ended 31st January 2016


#OgopaBear


@eightcents,
What do you think is the future of this business?
Any hope of better tiding?

A long serving director, B.C. Patel continues to accumulate the stock and now holds about 30% of the company's free float stock. Does he know something that we don't?

However, what we know is:
2014 profit was flat
2015 profit was down
2016 profit was down
HY2017 profit is down pointing to a stagnation is FY2017
PE (9.4) is above the sector average
PB (1.4) is above the sector average

On the flip side,
Consistent dividend payer
Growing assets
Little / No debt
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Wondergirl
#11 Posted : Thursday, March 30, 2017 11:27:12 AM
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Pray
Thanks buddy.
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Ebenyo
#12 Posted : Friday, March 31, 2017 11:21:05 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Ebenyo wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:


@pesa nane,wapi link ya full results?


HERE





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#13 Posted : Friday, March 31, 2017 11:32:44 PM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:

What's worrying is the turnover is down. Was there a reason given? Do they disclose volumes?


Quote:
Turnover for the first 6 months of the year reduced by 31% compared to the corresponding period in the previous year due to lower demand in the local and export markets as a result of economic and commercial factors



Is the consumption of carbon dioxide down or there's new competition? We still drink carbonated drinks despite the economy..
"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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#14 Posted : Friday, June 02, 2017 8:51:03 PM
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A long serving director, B.C. Patel continues to accumulate the stock and now holds about 30% of the company's free float stock. Does he know something that we don't?

Is Patel still accumulating carbacid share?
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Horton
#15 Posted : Friday, June 02, 2017 9:12:24 PM
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Kingotore wrote:
A long serving director, B.C. Patel continues to accumulate the stock and now holds about 30% of the company's free float stock. Does he know something that we don't?

Is Patel still accumulating carbacid share?


So this is contradictory. First u say he continues to accumulate then u ask whether he is still accumulating.
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Pesa Nane
#16 Posted : Friday, June 02, 2017 10:28:21 PM
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Horton wrote:
Kingotore wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
A long serving director, B.C. Patel continues to accumulate the stock and now holds about 30% of the company's free float stock. Does he know something that we don't?

However, what we know is:
2014 profit was flat
2015 profit was down
2016 profit was down
HY2017 profit is down pointing to a stagnation is FY2017
PE (9.4) is above the sector average
PB (1.4) is above the sector average

On the flip side,
Consistent dividend payer
Growing assets
Little / No debt


Is Patel still accumulating carbacid share?


So this is contradictory. First u say he continues to accumulate then u ask whether he is still accumulating.

@Horton, The reconstruction should help
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Horton
#17 Posted : Saturday, June 03, 2017 1:39:54 AM
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Oh rite thanks pesanane
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Ebenyo
#18 Posted : Saturday, June 03, 2017 6:26:33 AM
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The weakness of Baloobhai Patel is that he doesnt know when to exit from a falling house earlier.He was burnt in Mumias and i hope he learnt.
Im waiting for full year results in october for my next decision,meanwhile i take advantage of the falling price to buy more.
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#19 Posted : Saturday, June 03, 2017 6:53:02 AM
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Ebenyo wrote:
The weakness of Baloobhai Patel is that he doesnt know when to exit from a falling house earlier.He was burnt in Mumias and i hope he learnt.
Im waiting for full year results in october for my next decision,meanwhile i take advantage of the falling price to buy more.


Ebenyo this guy is a legend by his own right. Err is to human. Lets not dwell on small mistakes. He has amassed a wealth larger than the wazua fraternity combined on the stock market. Lets not even go to his real estate empire where he owns almost half the commercial buildings in westlands
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#20 Posted : Saturday, June 03, 2017 7:23:15 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Horton wrote:
Kingotore wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
A long serving director, B.C. Patel continues to accumulate the stock and now holds about 30% of the company's free float stock. Does he know something that we don't?

However, what we know is:
2014 profit was flat
2015 profit was down
2016 profit was down
HY2017 profit is down pointing to a stagnation is FY2017
PE (9.4) is above the sector average
PB (1.4) is above the sector average

On the flip side,
Consistent dividend payer
Growing assets
Little / No debt


Is Patel still accumulating carbacid share?


So this is contradictory. First u say he continues to accumulate then u ask whether he is still accumulating.

@Horton, The reconstruction should help

The best stocks to buy are turnaround ones

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