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Blaming the Jews - BBC documentary
Nandwa
#1 Posted : Saturday, March 11, 2017 11:44:45 AM
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Just as absolute power corrupts leaders, so does absolute fanaticism blind the people from logic
Liv
#2 Posted : Saturday, March 11, 2017 12:13:55 PM
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Nandwa wrote:


Do you think our armchair militants here in wazua believe anything different from that little girl in that video?
tycho
#3 Posted : Sunday, March 12, 2017 9:44:39 AM
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Liv wrote:
Nandwa wrote:


Do you think our armchair militants here in wazua believe anything different from that little girl in that video?


Hi Liv. This matter of Jews is so interesting and I may wish to post a few things about it. And I'd love to start by responding to your post. But I'm unable to view the video.

So can you please state the girl's argument?
chemirocha
#4 Posted : Sunday, March 12, 2017 11:27:58 AM
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This joke of a documentary has been around for quite a while.

It's all well and good to portray the Jewish people as victims of racial and religious intolerance. On the other hand Israel is guilty of engaging in apartheid and war crimes in Palestine.
Alba
#5 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 1:27:43 AM
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Hasbara
tycho
#6 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 7:29:26 AM
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Anyway, was Constantine the great, the one who converted to Christianity, was he not a Jew?

Wasn't Mohammed the prophet a Jew?

Who is a Jew in the first place? Is it something reduceable to genes?

Did the Jews give us the word 'Kenia'?
Liv
#7 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 10:10:28 AM
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tycho wrote:
Liv wrote:
Nandwa wrote:


Do you think our armchair militants here in wazua believe anything different from that little girl in that video?


Hi Liv. This matter of Jews is so interesting and I may wish to post a few things about it. And I'd love to start by responding to your post. But I'm unable to view the video.

So can you please state the girl's argument?


A 3 year old girl thinks and says the Jews and Christians are apes and pigs and she hates them.
AlphDoti
#8 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 11:45:36 AM
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Go find a Mau Mau veteran (if you can get one alive) and ask about mzungu... (S)he will tell you mzungu is more than a pig... Also, go to Laikipia right now and find any rancher (if they can even speak to a "savage") and ask him about you black person... So context brother, context.
AlphDoti
#9 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 12:16:40 PM
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Liv wrote:
tycho wrote:
Liv wrote:
Nandwa wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mWX8VB18nI


Do you think our armchair militants here in wazua believe anything different from that little girl in that video?
Hi Liv. This matter of Jews is so interesting and I may wish to post a few things about it. And I'd love to start by responding to your post. But I'm unable to view the video.

So can you please state the girl's argument?

A 3 year old girl thinks and says the Jews and Christians are apes and pigs and she hates them.

One common argument that is mentioned a lot is that the Quran calls Christians and Jews apes and pigs. It is another miss-interpretation taken out of context. First of all, the Quran NEVER calls the Christians swine’s or apes. So that is the first lie. Secondly, yes the Quran called the Jews swines and apes, but was the Quran referring to them all the Jews? Of course not! That is the second lie

Quran 2:63 And remember We took your covenant and We raised above you (The towering height) of Mount (Sinai): (Saying): "Hold firmly to what We have given you and bring (ever) to remembrance what is therein: Perchance ye may fear Allah."
64 But ye turned back thereafter: Had it not been for the Grace and Mercy of Allah to you, ye had surely been among the lost.
65 And well ye knew those amongst you who transgressed in the matter of the Sabbath: We said to them: "Be ye apes, despised and rejected."
66 So We made it an example to their own time and to their posterity, and a lesson to those who fear Allah.


First, you can see that these verses has nothing to do with Christians. They are referring to the JEWS. Secondly, when you read these verses, they are referring to a specific group of Jews who had sinned during the time of Moses.

So they WERE MADE AN EXAMPLE. So this just happened to a specific group of Jews, who had dis-obeyed God, so God gave them this harsh punishment, and made this punishment as an example to others, who were also Jews, to learn from the wrong-doers...

See a similar example in the Bible:
Numbers 14:11 The LORD said to Moses, "How long will these people treat me with contempt? How long will they refuse to believe in me, in spite of all the miraculous signs I have performed among them?
12 I will strike them down with a plague and destroy them, but I will make you into a nation greater and stronger than they."
22 not one of the men who saw my glory and the miraculous signs I performed in Egypt and in the desert but who disobeyed me and tested me ten times-
23 not one of them will ever see the land I promised on oath to their forefathers. No one who has treated me with contempt will ever see it.
AlphDoti
#10 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 12:51:52 PM
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chemirocha wrote:
This joke of a documentary has been around for quite a while.

It's all well and good to portray the Jewish people as victims of racial and religious intolerance. On the other hand Israel is guilty of engaging in apartheid and war crimes in Palestine.

You are right @chemirocha. I wonder what @liv expected from a 3 year old, or the mother of children suffering in Palestin and Syria?

These are but a few examples of the scenes these children are seeing each day... Pray Sad









tycho
#11 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 1:56:40 PM
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Liv wrote:
tycho wrote:
Liv wrote:
Nandwa wrote:


Do you think our armchair militants here in wazua believe anything different from that little girl in that video?


Hi Liv. This matter of Jews is so interesting and I may wish to post a few things about it. And I'd love to start by responding to your post. But I'm unable to view the video.

So can you please state the girl's argument?


A 3 year old girl thinks and says the Jews and Christians are apes and pigs and she hates them.


Oh. I thought it was a serious case against Jews. But anyway this Jew matter needs some really serious thought.

Sometimes I wonder what would happen if they'd decided to settle in Uganda.

Then see what's happening where they went to settle. And in all these things, who is to blame? And what's to be done?
AlphDoti
#12 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 2:12:44 PM
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Unfortunately, these are not the real Jews. Those who were settled are European Jews... they are Jews by religion not genetically. They have no blood relation to Abraham (from Isaac).

The British wanted to settle them in Ethiopia...
tycho
#13 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 2:17:28 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
Unfortunately, these are not the real Jews. Those who were settled are European Jews... they are Jews by religion not genetically. They have no blood relation to Abraham (from Isaac).

The British wanted to settle them in Ethiopia...


Any links about Ethiopia?
tycho
#14 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 2:53:21 PM
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tycho wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
Unfortunately, these are not the real Jews. Those who were settled are European Jews... they are Jews by religion not genetically. They have no blood relation to Abraham (from Isaac).

The British wanted to settle them in Ethiopia...


Any links about Ethiopia?


And why not Kenia?
2012
#15 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 3:02:36 PM
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AlphDoti wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
This joke of a documentary has been around for quite a while.

It's all well and good to portray the Jewish people as victims of racial and religious intolerance. On the other hand Israel is guilty of engaging in apartheid and war crimes in Palestine.

You are right @chemirocha. I wonder what @liv expected from a 3 year old, or the mother of children suffering in Palestin and Syria?

These are but a few examples of the scenes these children are seeing each day... Pray Sad












Human beings are the worst animals. Who did these children hurt?
I have a son that age and these just kill my heart.

BBI will solve it
:)
AlphDoti
#16 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 3:36:39 PM
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2012 wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
chemirocha wrote:
This joke of a documentary has been around for quite a while.

It's all well and good to portray the Jewish people as victims of racial and religious intolerance. On the other hand Israel is guilty of engaging in apartheid and war crimes in Palestine.

You are right @chemirocha. I wonder what @liv expected from a 3 year old, or the mother of children suffering in Palestin and Syria?

These are but a few examples of the scenes these children are seeing each day... Pray Sad










Human beings are the worst animals. Who did these children hurt?
I have a son that age and these just kill my heart.

@2012, I also wonder if such people have anyone they call a mother. I wonder if they ever suckled the breast of a mother.
AlphDoti
#17 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 3:46:24 PM
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tycho wrote:
tycho wrote:
AlphDoti wrote:
tycho wrote:
Liv wrote:
tycho wrote:
Liv wrote:
Nandwa wrote:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mWX8VB18nI


Do you think our armchair militants here in wazua believe anything different from that little girl in that video?

Hi Liv. This matter of Jews is so interesting and I may wish to post a few things about it. And I'd love to start by responding to your post. But I'm unable to view the video.

So can you please state the girl's argument?


A 3 year old girl thinks and says the Jews and Christians are apes and pigs and she hates them.

Oh. I thought it was a serious case against Jews. But anyway this Jew matter needs some really serious thought.

Sometimes I wonder what would happen if they'd decided to settle in Uganda.

Then see what's happening where they went to settle. And in all these things, who is to blame? And what's to be done?

Unfortunately, these are not the real Jews. Those who were settled are European Jews... they are Jews by religion not genetically. They have no blood relation to Abraham (from Isaac).

The British wanted to settle them in Ethiopia...

Any links about Ethiopia?

And why not Kenia?

I have no idea. But these guys carrying out these atrocities are hijacking Judaism.

The real Jewish religion must be respected. We cannot speak disrespectful about any religion, be it Judaism or Christianity. There is not question about being disrespectful about the Jews. It is when someone acts in an oppressive way. someone acts as an advocate of falsehood, and attacking the truth only then do we respond. Unfortunately, the majority of the Jews in the world today are supporting the oppressors, the oppressive state of Israel. And in that case, it is necessary for us to denounce it. That does not mean we are attacking Judaism, we are NOT criticizing the beliefs of the Jews...

So they have hijacked Judaism... Because Judaism itself denounces injustice, and anyone who follows true Judaism is man of integrity.
AlphDoti
#18 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 6:07:31 PM
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An American woman went to Israel, and stood up in front of an Israeli bulldozer to protect a Palestinian home. And the bulldozer run over her. The media of course would not smear this over the front pages whole week long... And of course @nandwa is not aware of this... Of course the court ruled that Israel was not at fault...









Quote:
“Rachel had been staying in Palestinian homes threatened with illegal demolition, and today Rachel was standing with other non-violent international activists in front of a home scheduled for illegal demolition. According to witnesses, Rachel was run over twice by the Israeli military bulldozer in its process of demolishing the Palestinian home. Witnesses say that Rachel was clearly visible to the bulldozer driver, and was doing nothing to provoke an attack.” (15 March 2003)
AlphDoti
#19 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 6:22:24 PM
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Who would blame this child? If that family being rendered homeless, were a Jew family, would the fellow Jews bear seeing it? Would @nandwa bear seeing such a suffering of a 2 year old baby? Only @nandwa would blame such a child!! Sad

Nandwa
#20 Posted : Monday, March 13, 2017 6:35:40 PM
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Why is my name being mentioned all over the place!?

What's the hysteria about jamenid'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
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