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That the high cost of projects in Kenya is likely to kill the Kenyan dream heading into the future is a question of when not if- that's if we keep burying our heads in the sand..e.g, the main reason why Rwanda and ug & Ss are reportedly pulling out of SGR is that they re simply unable to finance their portion of SGR...china's insistence that they use same contractor and same terms as keñya will just drive them away sooner than later. By the way its not a joke about changing geopolitics. ION ug is pulling out of somalia, anyone know the reason?,çoz changing realignmeants show ug will be less dependeñt on northern route heading into the future hence no major interests to secure the same. When we said cost of SGR is inflated, gok turned a deaf ear. Now, the high cost of projects- coz of financing kickbacks, campaigns and all thàt, likely to kill kenyan dream. IMHO, Kenya should ask china to let ug n rwanda source financiers and contractor for their portion of SGR otherwise we're done
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 299 Location: kenya
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limanika wrote:That the high cost of projects in Kenya is likely to kill the Kenyan dream heading into the future is a question of when not if- that's if we keep burying our heads in the sand..e.g, the main reason why Rwanda and ug & Ss are reportedly pulling out of SGR is that they re simply unable to finance their portion of SGR...china's insistence that they use same contractor and same terms as keñya will just drive them away sooner than later. By the way its not a joke about changing geopolitics. ION ug is pulling out of somalia, anyone know the reason?,çoz changing realignmeants show ug will be less dependeñt on northern route heading into the future hence no major interests to secure the same. When we said cost of SGR is inflated, gok turned a deaf ear. Now, the high cost of projects- coz of financing kickbacks, campaigns and all thàt, likely to kill kenyan dream. IMHO, Kenya should ask china to let ug n rwanda source financiers and contractor for their portion of SGR otherwise we're done Substantiate your allegation.weka link hapa.
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popat wrote:limanika wrote:That the high cost of projects in Kenya is likely to kill the Kenyan dream heading into the future is a question of when not if- that's if we keep burying our heads in the sand..e.g, the main reason why Rwanda and ug & Ss are reportedly pulling out of SGR is that they re simply unable to finance their portion of SGR...china's insistence that they use same contractor and same terms as keñya will just drive them away sooner than later. By the way its not a joke about changing geopolitics. ION ug is pulling out of somalia, anyone know the reason?,çoz changing realignmeants show ug will be less dependeñt on northern route heading into the future hence no major interests to secure the same. When we said cost of SGR is inflated, gok turned a deaf ear. Now, the high cost of projects- coz of financing kickbacks, campaigns and all thàt, likely to kill kenyan dream. IMHO, Kenya should ask china to let ug n rwanda source financiers and contractor for their portion of SGR otherwise we're done Substantiate your allegation.weka link hapa. Rink? It's all over mainstream media
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limanika wrote:popat wrote:limanika wrote:That the high cost of projects in Kenya is likely to kill the Kenyan dream heading into the future is a question of when not if- that's if we keep burying our heads in the sand..e.g, the main reason why Rwanda and ug & Ss are reportedly pulling out of SGR is that they re simply unable to finance their portion of SGR...china's insistence that they use same contractor and same terms as keñya will just drive them away sooner than later. By the way its not a joke about changing geopolitics. ION ug is pulling out of somalia, anyone know the reason?,çoz changing realignmeants show ug will be less dependeñt on northern route heading into the future hence no major interests to secure the same. When we said cost of SGR is inflated, gok turned a deaf ear. Now, the high cost of projects- coz of financing kickbacks, campaigns and all thàt, likely to kill kenyan dream. IMHO, Kenya should ask china to let ug n rwanda source financiers and contractor for their portion of SGR otherwise we're done Substantiate your allegation.weka link hapa. Rink? It's all over mainstream media Boss, wacha reli ifike. Wachaneni kulalamika as if you are the one funding it. Kwani how much taxes have you paid since you were born? Life is short. Live passionately.
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sparkly wrote:limanika wrote:popat wrote:limanika wrote:That the high cost of projects in Kenya is likely to kill the Kenyan dream heading into the future is a question of when not if- that's if we keep burying our heads in the sand..e.g, the main reason why Rwanda and ug & Ss are reportedly pulling out of SGR is that they re simply unable to finance their portion of SGR...china's insistence that they use same contractor and same terms as keñya will just drive them away sooner than later. By the way its not a joke about changing geopolitics. ION ug is pulling out of somalia, anyone know the reason?,çoz changing realignmeants show ug will be less dependeñt on northern route heading into the future hence no major interests to secure the same. When we said cost of SGR is inflated, gok turned a deaf ear. Now, the high cost of projects- coz of financing kickbacks, campaigns and all thàt, likely to kill kenyan dream. IMHO, Kenya should ask china to let ug n rwanda source financiers and contractor for their portion of SGR otherwise we're done Substantiate your allegation.weka link hapa. Rink? It's all over mainstream media Boss, wacha reli ifike. Wachaneni kulalamika as if you are the one funding it. Kwani how much taxes have you paid since you were born? @limanika Don't let sparkly discourage you. The govt has no money of it's own. It belongs to citizens and they have every right to question how it's spent. Keep it up.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Plimsoul wrote:sparkly wrote:limanika wrote:popat wrote:limanika wrote:That the high cost of projects in Kenya is likely to kill the Kenyan dream heading into the future is a question of when not if- that's if we keep burying our heads in the sand..e.g, the main reason why Rwanda and ug & Ss are reportedly pulling out of SGR is that they re simply unable to finance their portion of SGR...china's insistence that they use same contractor and same terms as keñya will just drive them away sooner than later. By the way its not a joke about changing geopolitics. ION ug is pulling out of somalia, anyone know the reason?,çoz changing realignmeants show ug will be less dependeñt on northern route heading into the future hence no major interests to secure the same. When we said cost of SGR is inflated, gok turned a deaf ear. Now, the high cost of projects- coz of financing kickbacks, campaigns and all thàt, likely to kill kenyan dream. IMHO, Kenya should ask china to let ug n rwanda source financiers and contractor for their portion of SGR otherwise we're done Substantiate your allegation.weka link hapa. Rink? It's all over mainstream media Boss, wacha reli ifike. Wachaneni kulalamika as if you are the one funding it. Kwani how much taxes have you paid since you were born? @limanika Don't let sparkly discourage you. The govt has no money of it's own. It belongs to citizens and they have every right to question how it's spent. Keep it up. Posting wild allegations disguised as authoritative opinion nkt. Treasury publishes budget estimates to last coin. They have also published debt sustainability reports. Budget estimates are scrutinized and passed by Parliament. Parliament approves the debt ceiling. Parliament approves budget appropriations. Office of Budget Controller makes sure money is spent for the right reasons. Auditor General provides audit oversight for all Gov levels. Private citizens are invited to make their presentations at all PFM levels. If @limanika has credible concerns, he should quote numbers and even make his presentations to Treasury and Parliament. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,301 Location: kenya
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sparkly wrote:Plimsoul wrote:sparkly wrote:limanika wrote:popat wrote:limanika wrote:That the high cost of projects in Kenya is likely to kill the Kenyan dream heading into the future is a question of when not if- that's if we keep burying our heads in the sand..e.g, the main reason why Rwanda and ug & Ss are reportedly pulling out of SGR is that they re simply unable to finance their portion of SGR...china's insistence that they use same contractor and same terms as keñya will just drive them away sooner than later. By the way its not a joke about changing geopolitics. ION ug is pulling out of somalia, anyone know the reason?,çoz changing realignmeants show ug will be less dependeñt on northern route heading into the future hence no major interests to secure the same. When we said cost of SGR is inflated, gok turned a deaf ear. Now, the high cost of projects- coz of financing kickbacks, campaigns and all thàt, likely to kill kenyan dream. IMHO, Kenya should ask china to let ug n rwanda source financiers and contractor for their portion of SGR otherwise we're done Substantiate your allegation.weka link hapa. Rink? It's all over mainstream media Boss, wacha reli ifike. Wachaneni kulalamika as if you are the one funding it. Kwani how much taxes have you paid since you were born? @limanika Don't let sparkly discourage you. The govt has no money of it's own. It belongs to citizens and they have every right to question how it's spent. Keep it up. Posting wild allegations disguised as authoritative opinion nkt. Treasury publishes budget estimates to last coin. They have also published debt sustainability reports. Budget estimates are scrutinized and passed by Parliament. Parliament approves the debt ceiling. Parliament approves budget appropriations. Office of Budget Controller makes sure money is spent for the right reasons. Auditor General provides audit oversight for all Gov levels. Private citizens are invited to make their presentations at all PFM levels. If @limanika has credible concerns, he should quote numbers and even make his presentations to Treasury and Parliament. This is like a dream to me sparkly . 1 Sparkly are you talking of kenya ama majuu.the things you are saying is just hypothetical speaking but not practical in any african country honestly 2 PAC was compromised and they were busted being corrupt by their own committee members . Do you trust any info or decision made by those guys apart from adding their salaries I see the swelling interest of debt we have to pay and Ericsson mentioned about it .261 billion interest on loans and 250 repayment .NOTE interest is higher than repayment .I don't know what kind of negotiation was this At the end of the day we will pay all this money ..na wacha nisikie mtu anasema bei ya bidhaa imeanza kwenda juu ..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/1/2009 Posts: 2,436
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Nah, Ug. is not pulling out of Som. coz of 'changing realignments that show Ug will be less dependent on northern route'
Note UG went into Som in 2007 way before launch of Kenya's V2030 of which SGR is a flagship project in 2008.
Pia, UG n Burundi are in Som coz of USD/EUROs/ to raise their country profile plus additionally for M7, military adventurism which he loves
Total will fund Ug's SGR portion through Tanga.
So M7 would pull out if EU pulled the plug on AMISOM funding in Som.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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enyands wrote:sparkly wrote:Plimsoul wrote:sparkly wrote:limanika wrote:popat wrote:limanika wrote:That the high cost of projects in Kenya is likely to kill the Kenyan dream heading into the future is a question of when not if- that's if we keep burying our heads in the sand..e.g, the main reason why Rwanda and ug & Ss are reportedly pulling out of SGR is that they re simply unable to finance their portion of SGR...china's insistence that they use same contractor and same terms as keñya will just drive them away sooner than later. By the way its not a joke about changing geopolitics. ION ug is pulling out of somalia, anyone know the reason?,çoz changing realignmeants show ug will be less dependeñt on northern route heading into the future hence no major interests to secure the same. When we said cost of SGR is inflated, gok turned a deaf ear. Now, the high cost of projects- coz of financing kickbacks, campaigns and all thàt, likely to kill kenyan dream. IMHO, Kenya should ask china to let ug n rwanda source financiers and contractor for their portion of SGR otherwise we're done Substantiate your allegation.weka link hapa. Rink? It's all over mainstream media Boss, wacha reli ifike. Wachaneni kulalamika as if you are the one funding it. Kwani how much taxes have you paid since you were born? @limanika Don't let sparkly discourage you. The govt has no money of it's own. It belongs to citizens and they have every right to question how it's spent. Keep it up. Posting wild allegations disguised as authoritative opinion nkt. Treasury publishes budget estimates to last coin. They have also published debt sustainability reports. Budget estimates are scrutinized and passed by Parliament. Parliament approves the debt ceiling. Parliament approves budget appropriations. Office of Budget Controller makes sure money is spent for the right reasons. Auditor General provides audit oversight for all Gov levels. Private citizens are invited to make their presentations at all PFM levels. If @limanika has credible concerns, he should quote numbers and even make his presentations to Treasury and Parliament. This is like a dream to me sparkly . 1 Sparkly are you talking of kenya ama majuu.the things you are saying is just hypothetical speaking but not practical in any african country honestly 2 PAC was compromised and they were busted being corrupt by their own committee members . Do you trust any info or decision made by those guys apart from adding their salaries I see the swelling interest of debt we have to pay and Ericsson mentioned about it .261 billion interest on loans and 250 repayment .NOTE interest is higher than repayment .I don't know what kind of negotiation was this At the end of the day we will pay all this money ..na wacha nisikie mtu anasema bei ya bidhaa imeanza kwenda juu .. By brother @enyands some people are net consumers of taxes yet are the loudest critics of how their money is being spent. Let's do the math for @lima. GOK will spend 2.2T for a population of 44m. that's 55k per person. Will his investments in active business or passive investment instruments contribute 55k or more to the exchequer?If not, he is a net consumer of taxes. Life is short. Live passionately.
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