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Rank: Member Joined: 8/15/2015 Posts: 817
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So today I woke up feeling very patriotic enough to pay my honest taxes. In Matatu parlance it is called 1080 aka advanced tax. First I went to several cyber cafes looking for ' those who know' how to generate the pay slip. To do that you must open an itax account. Then you have to join the long queue at Equity Bank. They give you a slip to take to another longer queue at KRA. They generate a confirmation slip. Am still asking myself why in this age of mpesa, why I must walk with a batch of papers across town just to pay my honest part of national building
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Rank: Member Joined: 6/15/2013 Posts: 301
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Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:So today I woke up feeling very patriotic enough to pay my honest taxes. In Matatu parlance it is called 1080 aka advanced tax. First I went to several cyber cafes looking for ' those who know' how to generate the pay slip. To do that you must open an itax account. Then you have to join the long queue at Equity Bank. They give you a slip to take to another longer queue at KRA. They generate a confirmation slip. Am still asking myself why in this age of mpesa, why I must walk with a batch of papers across town just to pay my honest part of national building Once you have a paying in slip generated from itax then you pay at the bank maneno kwisha. The bank will confirm you have paid online. That's my experience anyway. Why go to KRA??
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2015 Posts: 682
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Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:So today I woke up feeling very patriotic enough to pay my honest taxes. In Matatu parlance it is called 1080 aka advanced tax. First I went to several cyber cafes looking for ' those who know' how to generate the pay slip. To do that you must open an itax account. Then you have to join the long queue at Equity Bank. They give you a slip to take to another longer queue at KRA. They generate a confirmation slip. Am still asking myself why in this age of mpesa, why I must walk with a batch of papers across town just to pay my honest part of national building All local taxes do is pay fat salaries/allowances and contribute towards Waiguru type schemes. Nation building is done with donor funding kikiumana.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/15/2015 Posts: 26
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Why are you wasting your time queuing and filing paper work. Just save yourself the hassle and take your money directly to akina waiguru and duale. That is where it will end up anyways!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/29/2011 Posts: 2,242
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kimugaman wrote:Why are you wasting your time queuing and filing paper work. Just save yourself the hassle and take your money directly to akina waiguru and duale. That is where it will end up anyways! And remember to ask them to issue you with a certificate for advance collection. Submit the certificate with the annual returns and hola you are done. That way, the beneficiaries get the tax money without having to collect it at some basements on Moi Avenue. "Things that matter most must never be at the mercy of things that matter least." Goethe
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/17/2008 Posts: 488
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Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:So today I woke up feeling very patriotic enough to pay my honest taxes. In Matatu parlance it is called 1080 aka advanced tax. First I went to several cyber cafes looking for ' those who know' how to generate the pay slip. To do that you must open an itax account. Then you have to join the long queue at Equity Bank. They give you a slip to take to another longer queue at KRA. They generate a confirmation slip. Am still asking myself why in this age of mpesa, why I must walk with a batch of papers across town just to pay my honest part of national building Congratulations! Keep up the noble effort. Mean while you dont have to do it Equity.....there are many other banks you can pick n pay cash over the counter.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/31/2014 Posts: 24
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gk wrote:Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:So today I woke up feeling very patriotic enough to pay my honest taxes. In Matatu parlance it is called 1080 aka advanced tax. First I went to several cyber cafes looking for ' those who know' how to generate the pay slip. To do that you must open an itax account. Then you have to join the long queue at Equity Bank. They give you a slip to take to another longer queue at KRA. They generate a confirmation slip. Am still asking myself why in this age of mpesa, why I must walk with a batch of papers across town just to pay my honest part of national building Congratulations! Keep up the noble effort. Mean while you dont have to do it Equity.....there are many other banks you can pick n pay cash over the counter. You can also pay by Mpesa. Been doing so for rental income taxes.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/23/2012 Posts: 32
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Runner wrote:gk wrote:Cornelius Vanderbilt wrote:So today I woke up feeling very patriotic enough to pay my honest taxes. In Matatu parlance it is called 1080 aka advanced tax. First I went to several cyber cafes looking for ' those who know' how to generate the pay slip. To do that you must open an itax account. Then you have to join the long queue at Equity Bank. They give you a slip to take to another longer queue at KRA. They generate a confirmation slip. Am still asking myself why in this age of mpesa, why I must walk with a batch of papers across town just to pay my honest part of national building Congratulations! Keep up the noble effort. Mean while you dont have to do it Equity.....there are many other banks you can pick n pay cash over the counter. You can also pay by Mpesa. Been doing so for rental income taxes. You can generate the slip on ITAX and pay via MPESA, very convinient especially kwa sisi wa kungoja 19th
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Rank: Member Joined: 12/8/2015 Posts: 166
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Gathige wrote:kimugaman wrote:Why are you wasting your time queuing and filing paper work. Just save yourself the hassle and take your money directly to akina waiguru and duale. That is where it will end up anyways! And remember to ask them to issue you with a certificate for advance collection. Submit the certificate with the annual returns and hola you are done. That way, the beneficiaries get the tax money without having to collect it at some basements on Moi Avenue.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/29/2007 Posts: 76
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I am not so sure if this is the right place to post, but let me do it anyway. I would like to know whether the clearing system where merchandise is bought in China, Europe, Dubai, etc and sent to Kenya via Eldoret Airport where the only charges are freight charges per kilo.. No clear NORMAL Customs charges/ IDF declarations are made. The value of the goods is not taken into account, only the weight. Then, the goods are collected in Eastleigh ready for sale. Now, what is KRA's position on this matter? I understand, that the same KRA inspectors visit shops asking for IDF documents for the goods and they have to be given bribes since the documents are non-existent. I believe, we live in a very unfair society because those who clear their merchandise through the traditional customs clearing model end up paying much much more than their "Eastleigh system" counterparts..
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/4/2015 Posts: 241 Location: Kahno
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mwania wrote:I am not so sure if this is the right place to post, but let me do it anyway. I would like to know whether the clearing system where merchandise is bought in China, Europe, Dubai, etc and sent to Kenya via Eldoret Airport where the only charges are freight charges per kilo.. No clear NORMAL Customs charges/ IDF declarations are made. The value of the goods is not taken into account, only the weight. Then, the goods are collected in Eastleigh ready for sale. Now, what is KRA's position on this matter? I understand, that the same KRA inspectors visit shops asking for IDF documents for the goods and they have to be given bribes since the documents are non-existent. I believe, we live in a very unfair society because those who clear their merchandise through the traditional customs clearing model end up paying much much more than their "Eastleigh system" counterparts.. That's how the system is beaten. The Emirates lands at Eldoret Airport (is it every week?) with about 20 trucks lined up for loading ... Customs agents are supposed to clear those goods and sometimes they do get the IDF only that the declared value for a whole Emirates can be much much less.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/29/2007 Posts: 76
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Who allows this system of clearing goods? Is it legal?
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/4/2015 Posts: 241 Location: Kahno
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mwania wrote:Who allows this system of clearing goods? Is it legal? I may not say much on legality, but the taxman knows there were challenges and requirements for importers, consolidators and the general public are highlighted here: March 29, 2016Julius Musyoki, the KRA commissioner of customs and border control, said clearance documents for the imports through the airport shall include a packing list with details like name of importer or cargo owner, PIN, passport or national ID, phone contact and physical address. Other details, he said, are a description of goods, stating quantities and values among others. “Importers who employ the services of cargo consolidators are advised to submit the required information through their consolidator prior to the arrival of the goods to facilitate prompt clearance,” the commissioner said in a notice. A consolidator is a person or a company that combines different consignments for different importers in to one lot who delivers each cargo to each consignee. “The importers, consolidators and the general public are further notified that with effect from April 6, 2016, no importation through the Eldoret Airport will be processed by Customs unless all requirements are fulfilled,” he said. The airport has in recent years become popular with cargo flights seeking to avoid lengthy queues at the busy Jomo Kenyatta International Airport (JKIA) in Nairobi.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/29/2007 Posts: 76
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Thanks. It then appears like a KRA allowed tax avoidance loophole.. implying that it is the best route for traders who want to maximize their profits.. with the risks that,, KRA officers can decide to pounce on your shop any time and ask for non-existent importation documents where bribes will have to be given to the same guys who created the problem. In fact, in which country except Kenya and other third world countries, can this system of cargo consolidators work?
Just like building approvals where the planners refuse to approve but take the bribes and allow developers to build, only to denounce you when things go awry.
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Rank: Member Joined: 2/3/2015 Posts: 126 Location: Nairobi
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The amount of tax that ha been lost through this system for years is unbelievable. Not just Eldoret.... even Mombasa port. What do you think has build Eastleigh. I can tell you this will never be eliminated until the day we will elect clean guys at the top. If KRA, puts too much pressure, which I doubt because of the enticement with huge bribes from the traders, they will approach the political establishment looking for favours in return to political support
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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KRA has tried to streamline this but the bigwings always have their way. If you cant beat them, join them..............Better be on the table Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/29/2007 Posts: 76
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Thank you. Kenya must have gone to the dogs a long time ago if such serious tax evasion takes place and never reported anywhere.. and even the opposition never mentions it. Joining them on the table is good in the short term, in the long run, you can even go bankrupt when the same KRA people pounce on you and ask you to account.. again serious bribes will have to be given to KRA guys..
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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mwania wrote:Thank you. Kenya must have gone to the dogs a long time ago if such serious tax evasion takes place and never reported anywhere.. and even the opposition never mentions it. Joining them on the table is good in the short term, in the long run, you can even go bankrupt when the same KRA people pounce on you and ask you to account.. again serious bribes will have to be given to KRA guys.. If you are on the table, they will never dare ................... Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Member Joined: 10/29/2007 Posts: 76
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Interesting, if that is the case.. Joining them is the solution
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/23/2009 Posts: 13,843 Location: nairobi
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May God help us COOP 255,000 ABP 15.85; IMH 5,000 ABP 35.55; KQ 804,000 ABP 6.26; MTN 23,800 ABP 5.20
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