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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/11/2015 Posts: 21 Location: Nakuru
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Hi Wazuans, Is there anyone who can confirm the legitimacy of this opportunity. With 6% rate of return per month and 280k min investment that means by the end of one year ntakua nimerudisha 201k. I'm I missing something here?? The struggle continues
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 6/27/2011 Posts: 63
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Havent heard about it but it has ponzi scheme written all over it.
2 Q's I would ask myself.
1. What business on earth would they be doing to generate such returns that established businesses are not aware of?
2. With such returns, why do they need your money?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/11/2015 Posts: 21 Location: Nakuru
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guru me wrote:Havent heard about it but it has ponzi scheme written all over it.
2 Q's I would ask myself.
1. What business on earth would they be doing to generate such returns that established businesses are not aware of?
2. With such returns, why do they need your money? It's a dairy farm with exotic pedigree holstein friesian cows which apparently produce 40L of milk per day. The 280k is for one cow. The struggle continues
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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Anbu wrote:Hi Wazuans,
Is there anyone who can confirm the legitimacy of this opportunity. With 6% rate of return per month and 280k min investment that means by the end of one year ntakua nimerudisha 201k. I'm I missing something here?? most likely missing your brains.
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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mkenyan wrote:Anbu wrote:Hi Wazuans,
Is there anyone who can confirm the legitimacy of this opportunity. With 6% rate of return per month and 280k min investment that means by the end of one year ntakua nimerudisha 201k. I'm I missing something here?? most likely missing your brains.  If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/11/2015 Posts: 21 Location: Nakuru
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mkenyan wrote:Anbu wrote:Hi Wazuans,
Is there anyone who can confirm the legitimacy of this opportunity. With 6% rate of return per month and 280k min investment that means by the end of one year ntakua nimerudisha 201k. I'm I missing something here?? most likely missing your brains. Not sure if I should get offended or not but kama hauna jibu sio lazima uchangie ndugu. The struggle continues
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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Anbu wrote:mkenyan wrote:Anbu wrote:Hi Wazuans,
Is there anyone who can confirm the legitimacy of this opportunity. With 6% rate of return per month and 280k min investment that means by the end of one year ntakua nimerudisha 201k. I'm I missing something here?? most likely missing your brains. Not sure if I should get offended or not but kama hauna jibu sio lazima uchangie ndugu. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Anbu wrote:mkenyan wrote:Anbu wrote:Hi Wazuans,
Is there anyone who can confirm the legitimacy of this opportunity. With 6% rate of return per month and 280k min investment that means by the end of one year ntakua nimerudisha 201k. I'm I missing something here?? most likely missing your brains. Not sure if I should get offended or not but kama hauna jibu sio lazima uchangie ndugu. It says here that farm is bring set up so estimates. www.manillafarm.com/investment.htmlLife is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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Anbu wrote:mkenyan wrote:Anbu wrote:Hi Wazuans,
Is there anyone who can confirm the legitimacy of this opportunity. With 6% rate of return per month and 280k min investment that means by the end of one year ntakua nimerudisha 201k. I'm I missing something here?? most likely missing your brains. Not sure if I should get offended or not but kama hauna jibu sio lazima uchangie ndugu. asked if you are missing something. if you expect to make a clean 6% per month by running one 280k cow then in my humble opinion that is what you are missing.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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sparkly wrote:Anbu wrote:mkenyan wrote:Anbu wrote:Hi Wazuans,
Is there anyone who can confirm the legitimacy of this opportunity. With 6% rate of return per month and 280k min investment that means by the end of one year ntakua nimerudisha 201k. I'm I missing something here?? most likely missing your brains. Not sure if I should get offended or not but kama hauna jibu sio lazima uchangie ndugu. It says here that farm is bring set up so estimates. www.manillafarm.com/investment.html have just perused through the homepage of that website. two things stand out. one - they claim that you get the returns with your investment remaining intact ('can invest as little as one cow (Kshs 280,000) and earn monthly returns of 6% for a period of two years with your initial investment remaning (sic) intact') - now how do they ensure that happens given that the investment is a cow that may get sick and or die? will they insure them? or they somehow would give a guarantee of life? two - is this not an invtitation to the general public to invest? do they have the necessary consent and or approval of cma to do that?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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mkenyan wrote:sparkly wrote:Anbu wrote:mkenyan wrote:Anbu wrote:Hi Wazuans,
Is there anyone who can confirm the legitimacy of this opportunity. With 6% rate of return per month and 280k min investment that means by the end of one year ntakua nimerudisha 201k. I'm I missing something here?? most likely missing your brains. Not sure if I should get offended or not but kama hauna jibu sio lazima uchangie ndugu. It says here that farm is bring set up so estimates. www.manillafarm.com/investment.html have just perused through the homepage of that website. two things stand out. one - they claim that you get the returns with your investment remaining intact ('can invest as little as one cow (Kshs 280,000) and earn monthly returns of 6% for a period of two years with your initial investment remaning (sic) intact') - now how do they ensure that happens given that the investment is a cow that may get sick and or die? will they insure them? or they somehow would give a guarantee of life? two - is this not an invtitation to the general public to invest? do they have the necessary consent and or approval of cma to do that? Investment for 2 years, intact at the end of 2 years. What if the cow gives birth, whose calf is it? Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 11/11/2015 Posts: 21 Location: Nakuru
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@sparkly hio calf hawajasema itakua ya nani in case it happens. Also, their investment brochure says they take out an annual cover for the cow at a cost of 11k inclusive in the 280k and estimate the cost of 1L to be around 30 bob. Doing a bit of math and assuming that the cow is milked daily: case 1: 100% production (per year) 40*7*4*12*30= 403,200 case 2: 80% production 32*7*4*12= 322,650 case 3: 60% production 24*7*4*12= 241,920 With the yearly payout of about 201k, this seems to make sense ama? The struggle continues
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Rank: User Joined: 1/20/2014 Posts: 3,528
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Kwani that cow is milked without input/costs associated to maintaining it? Formal education will make you a living. Self-education will make you a fortune - Jim Rohn.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 5/22/2014 Posts: 56
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@Andu.. You are totally missing the Point.. The return is much higher that 6%. That is the only point you are missing. Here is how I will help you. Instead of reading in Wazua.. How about you go see for yourself!! People are making a Killing on returns on Holstein Pedigrees. You have given your Location as Nakuru.. right? Near you, you have Numerous Farms making much higher returns, let me give you a few Farms, Chemusian, Kenana, Pokea, Gogar, Sans Nombre, Manera, Denside, Egerton, Gichuru, Karbarnet, Meruai etc etc.....
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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Anbu wrote:@sparkly hio calf hawajasema itakua ya nani in case it happens. Also, their investment brochure says they take out an annual cover for the cow at a cost of 11k inclusive in the 280k and estimate the cost of 1L to be around 30 bob. Doing a bit of math and assuming that the cow is milked daily: case 1: 100% production (per year) 40*7*4*12*30= 403,200 case 2: 80% production 32*7*4*12= 322,650 case 3: 60% production 24*7*4*12= 241,920 With the yearly payout of about 201k, this seems to make sense ama? I dont know much about farming and stuff but will say something like a layman. Do yourself a favor , get a ticket and go to the site .put all this math kando.in reality it might be the same math shafting you. This is the same math given at a pyramid scheme called DECI and good life sacco. When there ask for copy of title of land deed of the land and do a quick search.see who it's under .if it's an individual or a registered company .then do your analysis. Also be prudent in asking their books. I don't know if it's a start up ama has been there for a while .see if with the few cows they have if they make money.be careful of dj kind of manipulation of books Talk to workers -watu wa mikono.their attitude will tell you much about the management . Ask them if you give them the same 205k if they will buy a cow and drop it there and wait for returns . The above is just what I would have done. Best of luck .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/23/2009 Posts: 8,083 Location: Enk are Nyirobi
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Anbu wrote:@sparkly hio calf hawajasema itakua ya nani in case it happens. Also, their investment brochure says they take out an annual cover for the cow at a cost of 11k inclusive in the 280k and estimate the cost of 1L to be around 30 bob. Doing a bit of math and assuming that the cow is milked daily: case 1: 100% production (per year) 40*7*4*12*30= 403,200 case 2: 80% production 32*7*4*12= 322,650 case 3: 60% production 24*7*4*12= 241,920 With the yearly payout of about 201k, this seems to make sense ama? @Anbu this is a very simplistic calculation on the return: 1. Costs not factored in - cow feeds (commercial & grass), land occupancy, vet drugs, water, husbandry labour. 2. Returns not factored in - A cow is a biological asset. It will grow older, it will calf, the calf may be a male or female. Calves gain more value as they grow. 3. Milk yield - A cow isn't milked when gestating. A young calf drinks some of the mothers milk. 4. A young bull will just be eating, fighting other bulls and disrupting females before it is sold for meat or its seed harvested and sold to other farmers. I am no expert in farming but I think you have to factor all the above when determining return from cows. You get optimal returns by managing a herd where some cows are calving, being milked, calves growing, part of herd sold, mature cows bred. Life is short. Live passionately.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/19/2015 Posts: 2,871 Location: hapo
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Before you start talking about profitability please wait for a second. I'm still waiting for these fellows to deliver some cows that were ordered by a friend some months back. Until then I'll consider them, not reliable. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/25/2014 Posts: 2,300 Location: kenya
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Just go there and see if it's a white elephant or black one. Don't handle imaginary calculations. Maybe that land is non existent .been shafted before with such projects.
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