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Values to me are lessons, assumptions, ideals, expectations, and models that are used to give meaning to life. Nietzsche once pointed out that it's not about how right or wrong values are, but rather it's about the choosing. The Chinese and the English seem to have theirs like http://www.theguardian.c...es-drunkenness-loathing and http://www.theguardian.c...in-university-education
Americans too have theirs. What are Kenyan values? How did we arrive at these values? What lives do they create for us?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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tycho wrote:Values to me are lessons, assumptions, ideals, expectations, and models that are used to give meaning to life. Nietzsche once pointed out that it's not about how right or wrong values are, but rather it's about the choosing. The Chinese and the English seem to have theirs like http://www.theguardian.c...es-drunkenness-loathing and http://www.theguardian.c...in-university-education
Americans too have theirs. What are Kenyan values? How did we arrive at these values? What lives do they create for us? Too me, values are the monetary worth of something  If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Values to me are lessons, assumptions, ideals, expectations, and models that are used to give meaning to life. Nietzsche once pointed out that it's not about how right or wrong values are, but rather it's about the choosing. The Chinese and the English seem to have theirs like http://www.theguardian.c...es-drunkenness-loathing and http://www.theguardian.c...in-university-education
Americans too have theirs. What are Kenyan values? How did we arrive at these values? What lives do they create for us? Too me, values are the monetary worth of something Like Nietzsche, I am curious why you chose the monetary worth as value. So, why?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Muriel wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Values to me are lessons, assumptions, ideals, expectations, and models that are used to give meaning to life. Nietzsche once pointed out that it's not about how right or wrong values are, but rather it's about the choosing. The Chinese and the English seem to have theirs like http://www.theguardian.c...es-drunkenness-loathing and http://www.theguardian.c...in-university-education
Americans too have theirs. What are Kenyan values? How did we arrive at these values? What lives do they create for us? Too me, values are the monetary worth of something Like Nietzsche, I am curious why you chose the monetary worth as value. So, why? Everything is about the monetary value,Even the Tycho's "Values" are defined by the monetary worth! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:Muriel wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Values to me are lessons, assumptions, ideals, expectations, and models that are used to give meaning to life. Nietzsche once pointed out that it's not about how right or wrong values are, but rather it's about the choosing. The Chinese and the English seem to have theirs like http://www.theguardian.c...es-drunkenness-loathing and http://www.theguardian.c...in-university-education
Americans too have theirs. What are Kenyan values? How did we arrive at these values? What lives do they create for us? Too me, values are the monetary worth of something Like Nietzsche, I am curious why you chose the monetary worth as value. So, why? Everything is about the monetary value,Even the Tycho's "Values" are defined by the monetary worth! Money may be a measure of value, not a value in itself. Then if you're to consider my values you'd have to ask not assume or impose yours.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/19/2009 Posts: 3,142
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tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:Muriel wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Values to me are lessons, assumptions, ideals, expectations, and models that are used to give meaning to life. Nietzsche once pointed out that it's not about how right or wrong values are, but rather it's about the choosing. The Chinese and the English seem to have theirs like http://www.theguardian.c...es-drunkenness-loathing and http://www.theguardian.c...in-university-education
Americans too have theirs. What are Kenyan values? How did we arrive at these values? What lives do they create for us? Too me, values are the monetary worth of something Like Nietzsche, I am curious why you chose the monetary worth as value. So, why? Everything is about the monetary value,Even the Tycho's "Values" are defined by the monetary worth! Money may be a measure of value, not a value in itself. Then if you're to consider my values you'd have to ask not assume or impose yours. What are your values?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:Muriel wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Values to me are lessons, assumptions, ideals, expectations, and models that are used to give meaning to life. Nietzsche once pointed out that it's not about how right or wrong values are, but rather it's about the choosing. The Chinese and the English seem to have theirs like http://www.theguardian.c...es-drunkenness-loathing and http://www.theguardian.c...in-university-education
Americans too have theirs. What are Kenyan values? How did we arrive at these values? What lives do they create for us? Too me, values are the monetary worth of something Like Nietzsche, I am curious why you chose the monetary worth as value. So, why? Everything is about the monetary value,Even the Tycho's "Values" are defined by the monetary worth! Money may be a measure of value, not a value in itself. Then if you're to consider my values you'd have to ask not assume or impose yours. I didn't impose,I said your values are defined by your monetary worth. Wealthy countries/societies or people have different values from the poorer;As we climbe the economic ladders we tend to change/adapt our values to reflect our economic status If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:Muriel wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Values to me are lessons, assumptions, ideals, expectations, and models that are used to give meaning to life. Nietzsche once pointed out that it's not about how right or wrong values are, but rather it's about the choosing. The Chinese and the English seem to have theirs like http://www.theguardian.c...es-drunkenness-loathing and http://www.theguardian.c...in-university-education
Americans too have theirs. What are Kenyan values? How did we arrive at these values? What lives do they create for us? Too me, values are the monetary worth of something Like Nietzsche, I am curious why you chose the monetary worth as value. So, why? Everything is about the monetary value,Even the Tycho's "Values" are defined by the monetary worth! Money may be a measure of value, not a value in itself. Then if you're to consider my values you'd have to ask not assume or impose yours. What are your values? What are your values Muriel? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:Muriel wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Values to me are lessons, assumptions, ideals, expectations, and models that are used to give meaning to life. Nietzsche once pointed out that it's not about how right or wrong values are, but rather it's about the choosing. The Chinese and the English seem to have theirs like http://www.theguardian.c...es-drunkenness-loathing and http://www.theguardian.c...in-university-education
Americans too have theirs. What are Kenyan values? How did we arrive at these values? What lives do they create for us? Too me, values are the monetary worth of something Like Nietzsche, I am curious why you chose the monetary worth as value. So, why? Everything is about the monetary value,Even the Tycho's "Values" are defined by the monetary worth! Money may be a measure of value, not a value in itself. Then if you're to consider my values you'd have to ask not assume or impose yours. I didn't impose,I said your values are defined by your monetary worth. Wealthy countries/societies or people have different values from the poorer;As we climbe the economic ladders we tend to change/adapt our values to reflect our economic status Is this a fact you can attribute to others really? Do we have any evidence for this?
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:Muriel wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Values to me are lessons, assumptions, ideals, expectations, and models that are used to give meaning to life. Nietzsche once pointed out that it's not about how right or wrong values are, but rather it's about the choosing. The Chinese and the English seem to have theirs like http://www.theguardian.c...es-drunkenness-loathing and http://www.theguardian.c...in-university-education
Americans too have theirs. What are Kenyan values? How did we arrive at these values? What lives do they create for us? Too me, values are the monetary worth of something Like Nietzsche, I am curious why you chose the monetary worth as value. So, why? Everything is about the monetary value,Even the Tycho's "Values" are defined by the monetary worth! Money may be a measure of value, not a value in itself. Then if you're to consider my values you'd have to ask not assume or impose yours. I didn't impose,I said your values are defined by your monetary worth. Wealthy countries/societies or people have different values from the poorer;As we climbe the economic ladders we tend to change/adapt our values to reflect our economic status Is this a fact you can attribute to others really? Do we have any evidence for this? This fact has been deduced from a simple observation of people's ethics which changes as their economic status changes.Look at some of our Mpigs who a few years ago,we thought they would be the best leaders if given an opportunity,but once they got elected, their ethics totally changed.I have also observed that the wealthy guys are not remorsefuland do not have qualms after stealing unlike the poor guys. But to answer your question,The Kenyan values is MONEY! If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:Muriel wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Values to me are lessons, assumptions, ideals, expectations, and models that are used to give meaning to life. Nietzsche once pointed out that it's not about how right or wrong values are, but rather it's about the choosing. The Chinese and the English seem to have theirs like http://www.theguardian.c...es-drunkenness-loathing and http://www.theguardian.c...in-university-education
Americans too have theirs. What are Kenyan values? How did we arrive at these values? What lives do they create for us? Too me, values are the monetary worth of something Like Nietzsche, I am curious why you chose the monetary worth as value. So, why? Everything is about the monetary value,Even the Tycho's "Values" are defined by the monetary worth! Money may be a measure of value, not a value in itself. Then if you're to consider my values you'd have to ask not assume or impose yours. I didn't impose,I said your values are defined by your monetary worth. Wealthy countries/societies or people have different values from the poorer;As we climbe the economic ladders we tend to change/adapt our values to reflect our economic status Is this a fact you can attribute to others really? Do we have any evidence for this? This fact has been deduced from a simple observation of people's ethics which changes as their economic status changes.Look at some of our Mpigs who a few years ago,we thought they would be the best leaders if given an opportunity,but once they got elected, their ethics totally changed.I have also observed that the wealthy guys are not remorsefuland do not have qualms after stealing unlike the poor guys. But to answer your question,The Kenyan values is MONEY! The grammar betrays your thought.
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/6/2013 Posts: 640
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Conspicous consumption. Its all good.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 4/1/2009 Posts: 1,883
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Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:Muriel wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Values to me are lessons, assumptions, ideals, expectations, and models that are used to give meaning to life. Nietzsche once pointed out that it's not about how right or wrong values are, but rather it's about the choosing. The Chinese and the English seem to have theirs like http://www.theguardian.c...es-drunkenness-loathing and http://www.theguardian.c...in-university-education
Americans too have theirs. What are Kenyan values? How did we arrive at these values? What lives do they create for us? Too me, values are the monetary worth of something Like Nietzsche, I am curious why you chose the monetary worth as value. So, why? Everything is about the monetary value,Even the Tycho's "Values" are defined by the monetary worth! Money may be a measure of value, not a value in itself. Then if you're to consider my values you'd have to ask not assume or impose yours. I didn't impose,I said your values are defined by your monetary worth. Wealthy countries/societies or people have different values from the poorer;As we climbe the economic ladders we tend to change/adapt our values to reflect our economic status Is this a fact you can attribute to others really? Do we have any evidence for this? This fact has been deduced from a simple observation of people's ethics which changes as their economic status changes.Look at some of our Mpigs who a few years ago,we thought they would be the best leaders if given an opportunity,but once they got elected, their ethics totally changed.I have also observed that the wealthy guys are not remorsefuland do not have qualms after stealing unlike the poor guys. But to answer your question,The Kenyan values is MONEY! the only thing which can be said without equivocation is that swenani's value is fish.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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Pesa Pombe Siasa na Wanawake I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:Muriel wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Values to me are lessons, assumptions, ideals, expectations, and models that are used to give meaning to life. Nietzsche once pointed out that it's not about how right or wrong values are, but rather it's about the choosing. The Chinese and the English seem to have theirs like http://www.theguardian.c...es-drunkenness-loathing and http://www.theguardian.c...in-university-education
Americans too have theirs. What are Kenyan values? How did we arrive at these values? What lives do they create for us? Too me, values are the monetary worth of something Like Nietzsche, I am curious why you chose the monetary worth as value. So, why? Everything is about the monetary value,Even the Tycho's "Values" are defined by the monetary worth! Money may be a measure of value, not a value in itself. Then if you're to consider my values you'd have to ask not assume or impose yours. I didn't impose,I said your values are defined by your monetary worth. Wealthy countries/societies or people have different values from the poorer;As we climbe the economic ladders we tend to change/adapt our values to reflect our economic status Is this a fact you can attribute to others really? Do we have any evidence for this? This fact has been deduced from a simple observation of people's ethics which changes as their economic status changes.Look at some of our Mpigs who a few years ago,we thought they would be the best leaders if given an opportunity,but once they got elected, their ethics totally changed.I have also observed that the wealthy guys are not remorsefuland do not have qualms after stealing unlike the poor guys. But to answer your question,The Kenyan values is MONEY! The grammar betrays your thought. Does that mean his rhetoric has gone way overboard - far above what his elementary thoughts are capable of. 
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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nakujua wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:Muriel wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Values to me are lessons, assumptions, ideals, expectations, and models that are used to give meaning to life. Nietzsche once pointed out that it's not about how right or wrong values are, but rather it's about the choosing. The Chinese and the English seem to have theirs like http://www.theguardian.c...es-drunkenness-loathing and http://www.theguardian.c...in-university-education
Americans too have theirs. What are Kenyan values? How did we arrive at these values? What lives do they create for us? Too me, values are the monetary worth of something Like Nietzsche, I am curious why you chose the monetary worth as value. So, why? Everything is about the monetary value,Even the Tycho's "Values" are defined by the monetary worth! Money may be a measure of value, not a value in itself. Then if you're to consider my values you'd have to ask not assume or impose yours. I didn't impose,I said your values are defined by your monetary worth. Wealthy countries/societies or people have different values from the poorer;As we climbe the economic ladders we tend to change/adapt our values to reflect our economic status Is this a fact you can attribute to others really? Do we have any evidence for this? This fact has been deduced from a simple observation of people's ethics which changes as their economic status changes.Look at some of our Mpigs who a few years ago,we thought they would be the best leaders if given an opportunity,but once they got elected, their ethics totally changed.I have also observed that the wealthy guys are not remorsefuland do not have qualms after stealing unlike the poor guys. But to answer your question,The Kenyan values is MONEY! The grammar betrays your thought. Does that mean his rhetoric has gone way overboard - far above what his elementary thoughts are capable of. I think you're right @nakujua. That could even be a national predicament.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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Muriel wrote:tycho wrote:Swenani wrote:Muriel wrote:Swenani wrote:tycho wrote:Values to me are lessons, assumptions, ideals, expectations, and models that are used to give meaning to life. Nietzsche once pointed out that it's not about how right or wrong values are, but rather it's about the choosing. The Chinese and the English seem to have theirs like http://www.theguardian.c...es-drunkenness-loathing and http://www.theguardian.c...in-university-education
Americans too have theirs. What are Kenyan values? How did we arrive at these values? What lives do they create for us? Too me, values are the monetary worth of something Like Nietzsche, I am curious why you chose the monetary worth as value. So, why? Everything is about the monetary value,Even the Tycho's "Values" are defined by the monetary worth! Money may be a measure of value, not a value in itself. Then if you're to consider my values you'd have to ask not assume or impose yours. What are your values? Am in a kind of transit muriel. Especially after discovering that the values I've had are nothing short of destructive.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/1/2011 Posts: 8,804 Location: Nairobi
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When the enemy within receives temporary satisfaction, I am happy, when he is praised I am proud, when he's unfed, I am angry.
Values, are the grip of death. No wonder my experience as a citizen is that of daily confronting the walking dead.
Shape shifting might be the ultimate solution.
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/27/2006 Posts: 505
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tycho wrote:When the enemy within receives temporary satisfaction, I am happy, when he is praised I am proud, when he's unfed, I am angry.
Values, are the grip of death. No wonder my experience as a citizen is that of daily confronting the walking dead.
Shape shifting might be the ultimate solution. You're turning into the overman then? Are you going beyond good and evil to create your own life-affirming morality?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/17/2009 Posts: 3,583 Location: Kenya
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surely politicking at funerals must sit comfortably among the many kenyan values.
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