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Form One Selection 2015
McReggae
#1 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 2:25:30 PM
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I think there is a big scum going on and the planning stage could have been when they banned ranking of schools!!!!
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Othelo
#2 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 2:28:33 PM
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Awuoro!!!!!!!!!
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Euge
#3 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 4:13:25 PM
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McReggae wrote:
I think there is a big scum going on and the planning stage could have been when they banned ranking of schools!!!!


The process stinks to the highest heavens. There is nothing like computerized selection. Its chukua huyu, wacha huyu. Because the parent to that kid with over 400 from a private school will go to that national school with 20k or more to buy a place.
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kaka2za
#4 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:02:12 PM
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They must have used IEBC computers. How do you explain students with 390 selected to District schools and 283 to National school.
The case of Muranga High(National) is mind boggling.Only 42 of the selcted 234 have more than 400 marks while 60 have less than 350 which is the cut off for the County schools.
How on earth did the students with less than 300 marks find their way to the National school while students with higher marks are joining district schools?

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kysse
#5 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:21:47 PM
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How is form1 school selection done nowadays.

I am just discombobulated.
Gordon Gekko
#6 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:23:36 PM
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I have a copy of the selection for a national school that pre-selects (do their selection before national schools). The list is tyrannical.
mwenza
#7 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:40:16 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
I have a copy of the selection for a national school that pre-selects (do their selection before national schools). The list is tyrannical.


Selections for all schools are available online.
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McReggae
#8 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 5:40:38 PM
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Gordon Gekko wrote:
I have a copy of the selection for a national school that pre-selects (do their selection before national schools). The list is tyrannical.


Imagine a kid with 421 being called to a district school! It's a sham!!!!
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murchr
#9 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 6:00:10 PM
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You'd think since we are so digitally correct, these selections would be done by some comp. Since the kiddos selected their preferred schools, and the schs have a cut off point eg 400 an easy - "IF - THEN - ELSE-" code can do this and save the gov so much in allowances that are paid to these teachers.

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Ngong
#10 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 6:00:28 PM
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McReggae wrote:
Gordon Gekko wrote:
I have a copy of the selection for a national school that pre-selects (do their selection before national schools). The list is tyrannical.


Imagine a kid with 421 being called to a district school! It's a sham!!!!


This is the kind of stuff that brings a revolution!
Murira Ikihia
#11 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 6:20:17 PM
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I fully sympathise with the affected kids because I was a victim of a similar scam - 38 years ago. I had scored 32 out of 36 points (equivalent to 444 today) and was picked in our local neighbourhood school - it was partly harambee with a government aided class. At the time, there were students there who would Muratina instead of tea during break-time! It almost broke my spirit but after the initial shock we adjusted and actually ended up uplifting the school performance to levels it had never seen. My take on this is: encourage those bright kids who have no choice but to live with this reality to settle down and take their revenge by working harder than those privileged ones. Take from me, it will change their lives and could even uplift these backwater institutions. Its called the school of hard knocks.
nakujua
#12 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 7:46:09 PM
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kaka2za wrote:

They must have used IEBC computers. How do you explain students with 390 selected to District schools and 283 to National school.
The case of Muranga High(National) is mind boggling.Only 42 of the selcted 234 have more than 400 marks while 60 have less than 350 which is the cut off for the County schools.
How on earth did the students with less than 300 marks find their way to the National school while students with higher marks are joining district schools?


quota system
TUPAC
#13 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 7:48:54 PM
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check the selection results for all schools here....(by school or by district)....this year kids with as low 100 marks were admitted to schools...mostly day schools.

http://www.education.go....natselectionbydist.aspx

Actually the cut off for qualification to a government school was 100 marks. Kids will less than 100 marks were left out of admission to the government schools...soon it will be 100% transition from primary to secondary school!
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nakujua
#14 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 7:51:16 PM
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murchr wrote:
You'd think since we are so digitally correct, these selections would be done by some comp. Since the kiddos selected their preferred schools, and the schs have a cut off point eg 400 an easy - "IF - THEN - ELSE-" code can do this and save the gov so much in allowances that are paid to these teachers.


exception - what if all the national schools that a kid selected are filled up by kids with slightly higher marks, does the program pick another national school at random or does it fall back to the county school selected.

the parameters passed can quickly complicate that simplicity.
murchr
#15 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 8:08:22 PM
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nakujua wrote:
murchr wrote:
You'd think since we are so digitally correct, these selections would be done by some comp. Since the kiddos selected their preferred schools, and the schs have a cut off point eg 400 an easy - "IF - THEN - ELSE-" code can do this and save the gov so much in allowances that are paid to these teachers.


exception - what if all the national schools that a kid selected are filled up by kids with slightly higher marks, does the program pick another national school at random or does it fall back to the county school selected.

the parameters passed can quickly complicate that simplicity.


I may need some education on how many schools a child picks. But from what the CS and PS said....that kids got the schools that they chose/selected. Which has been proved to be wrong. So by default, the kid who misses out on his/her first selection, should land the second selection that they took that is what a "IF ..THEN...ELSE STATEMENT DOES...PS: I DONT KNOW HOW ITS DONE THESE DAYS, WHEN I DID MINE I SELECTED 3 OR MORE SCHOOLS.

in plain english, the statement fed to the program should read "IF'Child indexnumber' 40123001 >/ 400 THEN ('Alliance High' 2012301) ELSE {IF 'Child indexnumber' 40123001 >/ 350 THEN ('Nyeri High' 201235450) ELSE { IF 'Child indexnumber' 40123001 >/ 250 THEN ('Ndunduri High' 201256801) ELSE 'Join Polytechnic END IF; NB Syntax not observed.


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nakujua
#16 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:36:21 PM
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murchr wrote:
nakujua wrote:
murchr wrote:
You'd think since we are so digitally correct, these selections would be done by some comp. Since the kiddos selected their preferred schools, and the schs have a cut off point eg 400 an easy - "IF - THEN - ELSE-" code can do this and save the gov so much in allowances that are paid to these teachers.


exception - what if all the national schools that a kid selected are filled up by kids with slightly higher marks, does the program pick another national school at random or does it fall back to the county school selected.

the parameters passed can quickly complicate that simplicity.


I may need some education on how many schools a child picks. But from what the CS and PS said....that kids got the schools that they chose/selected. Which has been proved to be wrong. So by default, the kid who misses out on his/her first selection, should land the second selection that they took that is what a "IF ..THEN...ELSE STATEMENT DOES...PS: I DONT KNOW HOW ITS DONE THESE DAYS, WHEN I DID MINE I SELECTED 3 OR MORE SCHOOLS.

in plain english, the statement fed to the program should read "IF'Child indexnumber' 40123001 >/ 400 THEN ('Alliance High' 2012301) ELSE {IF 'Child indexnumber' 40123001 >/ 350 THEN ('Nyeri High' 201235450) ELSE { IF 'Child indexnumber' 40123001 >/ 250 THEN ('Ndunduri High' 201256801) ELSE 'Join Polytechnic END IF; NB Syntax not observed.



Hehehe, parameters ni mingi - school capacity, affirmative action ...
you may get a scenario where all the national schools a kid selected are filled up by kids with 401, then they are placed in the county school, then the parents will make noise as to why the bright kid failed to be admitted to a national school.
murchr
#17 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:47:15 PM
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nakujua wrote:
murchr wrote:
nakujua wrote:
murchr wrote:
You'd think since we are so digitally correct, these selections would be done by some comp. Since the kiddos selected their preferred schools, and the schs have a cut off point eg 400 an easy - "IF - THEN - ELSE-" code can do this and save the gov so much in allowances that are paid to these teachers.


exception - what if all the national schools that a kid selected are filled up by kids with slightly higher marks, does the program pick another national school at random or does it fall back to the county school selected.

the parameters passed can quickly complicate that simplicity.


I may need some education on how many schools a child picks. But from what the CS and PS said....that kids got the schools that they chose/selected. Which has been proved to be wrong. So by default, the kid who misses out on his/her first selection, should land the second selection that they took that is what a "IF ..THEN...ELSE STATEMENT DOES...PS: I DONT KNOW HOW ITS DONE THESE DAYS, WHEN I DID MINE I SELECTED 3 OR MORE SCHOOLS.

in plain english, the statement fed to the program should read "IF'Child indexnumber' 40123001 >/ 400 THEN ('Alliance High' 2012301) ELSE {IF 'Child indexnumber' 40123001 >/ 350 THEN ('Nyeri High' 201235450) ELSE { IF 'Child indexnumber' 40123001 >/ 250 THEN ('Ndunduri High' 201256801) ELSE 'Join Polytechnic END IF; NB Syntax not observed.



Hehehe, parameters ni mingi - school capacity, affirmative action ...
you may get a scenario where all the national schools a kid selected are filled up by kids with 401, then they are placed in the county school, then the parents will make noise as to why the bright kid failed to be admitted to a national schhool.


Parameters can be set capacity can be set quota can be set
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limanika
#18 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:51:29 PM
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This thing is complete sham, the intentions may have been good but clearly someone did not think through ...and if you go ahead to ban ranking of sec schools, then why ask the kcpe candidates to rank their choices in the first place?
limanika
#19 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:53:55 PM
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kysse
#20 Posted : Tuesday, January 27, 2015 10:57:59 PM
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To avoid all these stress, which will for sure drive me nuts in 2016, I have resolved to look for a private high school beginning yesterday.

This siasa of shanderema tay poy and kal high school, instead of mangu I can't bear esp not after putting all effort and money to see your child succeed.






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