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the EastAfrican wrote:The 11 African countries under study — Angola, Ethiopia, Ghana, Kenya, Mozambique, Nigeria, South Sudan, Sudan, Tanzania, Uganda and Zambia — were found to have only 15 million middle-class households, up from 4.6 million in 2000 and 2.4 million in 1990.
“There has been little change in the composition of Uganda’s population in income terms in the past decade. Today, 90 per cent of the population lives on or below the poverty line – down from 95 per cent of the population in 2000,” the report says.
In Kenya, the rate of household transition out of poverty has remained sluggish since 1990, when 21.2 million Kenyans (91 per cent of the population then) lived on or below the poverty line.
“Today, 38 million Kenyans (83 per cent of the population) reside in this band,” the report says, placing 94 per cent of Tanzania’s population below the poverty line as well.
That number is too big am sure many Wazuans fall in that "band" despite being here always yapping about politricks and government. This is the true definition of third world"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:the EastAfrican wrote:The 11 African countries under study — Angola, Ethiopia, Ghana, Kenya, Mozambique, Nigeria, South Sudan, Sudan, Tanzania, Uganda and Zambia — were found to have only 15 million middle-class households, up from 4.6 million in 2000 and 2.4 million in 1990.
“There has been little change in the composition of Uganda’s population in income terms in the past decade. Today, 90 per cent of the population lives on or below the poverty line – down from 95 per cent of the population in 2000,” the report says.
In Kenya, the rate of household transition out of poverty has remained sluggish since 1990, when 21.2 million Kenyans (91 per cent of the population then) lived on or below the poverty line.
“Today, 38 million Kenyans (83 per cent of the population) reside in this band,” the report says, placing 94 per cent of Tanzania’s population below the poverty line as well.
That number is too big am sure many Wazuans fall in that "band" despite being here always yapping about politricks and government. This is the true definition of third world i dont trust those figures If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/14/2012 Posts: 577 Location: Nairobi Kenya
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Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:the EastAfrican wrote:The 11 African countries under study — Angola, Ethiopia, Ghana, Kenya, Mozambique, Nigeria, South Sudan, Sudan, Tanzania, Uganda and Zambia — were found to have only 15 million middle-class households, up from 4.6 million in 2000 and 2.4 million in 1990.
“There has been little change in the composition of Uganda’s population in income terms in the past decade. Today, 90 per cent of the population lives on or below the poverty line – down from 95 per cent of the population in 2000,” the report says.
In Kenya, the rate of household transition out of poverty has remained sluggish since 1990, when 21.2 million Kenyans (91 per cent of the population then) lived on or below the poverty line.
“Today, 38 million Kenyans (83 per cent of the population) reside in this band,” the report says, placing 94 per cent of Tanzania’s population below the poverty line as well.
That number is too big am sure many Wazuans fall in that "band" despite being here always yapping about politricks and government. This is the true definition of third world
i dont trust those figures I second that, What is the definition of mido class in Kenya again? Before I die - i will touch the sky!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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YoungMulla wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:the EastAfrican wrote:The 11 African countries under study — Angola, Ethiopia, Ghana, Kenya, Mozambique, Nigeria, South Sudan, Sudan, Tanzania, Uganda and Zambia — were found to have only 15 million middle-class households, up from 4.6 million in 2000 and 2.4 million in 1990.
“There has been little change in the composition of Uganda’s population in income terms in the past decade. Today, 90 per cent of the population lives on or below the poverty line – down from 95 per cent of the population in 2000,” the report says.
In Kenya, the rate of household transition out of poverty has remained sluggish since 1990, when 21.2 million Kenyans (91 per cent of the population then) lived on or below the poverty line.
“Today, 38 million Kenyans (83 per cent of the population) reside in this band,” the report says, placing 94 per cent of Tanzania’s population below the poverty line as well.
That number is too big am sure many Wazuans fall in that "band" despite being here always yapping about politricks and government. This is the true definition of third world
i dont trust those figures I second that, What is the definition of mido class in Kenya again? Here are the metrics, does the "In Kenya" offer any consolation?the EastAfrican wrote:The report classifies household incomes into four groups using the Living Standard Measure, which uses the level of spending rather than income as a measure of affluence.
Low-income people are listed as those spending less than $5,500 in a year or $15 per day while the lower middle class spend up to $8,500 annually, or $23 per day.
The middle class spends as much as $42,000 per year or $115 per day and the upper middle class spends more than $42,000 a year. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: User Joined: 8/15/2013 Posts: 13,237 Location: Vacuum
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murchr wrote:YoungMulla wrote:Swenani wrote:murchr wrote:the EastAfrican wrote:The 11 African countries under study — Angola, Ethiopia, Ghana, Kenya, Mozambique, Nigeria, South Sudan, Sudan, Tanzania, Uganda and Zambia — were found to have only 15 million middle-class households, up from 4.6 million in 2000 and 2.4 million in 1990.
“There has been little change in the composition of Uganda’s population in income terms in the past decade. Today, 90 per cent of the population lives on or below the poverty line – down from 95 per cent of the population in 2000,” the report says.
In Kenya, the rate of household transition out of poverty has remained sluggish since 1990, when 21.2 million Kenyans (91 per cent of the population then) lived on or below the poverty line.
“Today, 38 million Kenyans (83 per cent of the population) reside in this band,” the report says, placing 94 per cent of Tanzania’s population below the poverty line as well.
That number is too big am sure many Wazuans fall in that "band" despite being here always yapping about politricks and government. This is the true definition of third world
i dont trust those figures I second that, What is the definition of mido class in Kenya again? Here are the metrics, does the "In Kenya" offer any consolation?the EastAfrican wrote:The report classifies household incomes into four groups using the Living Standard Measure, which uses the level of spending rather than income as a measure of affluence.
Low-income people are listed as those spending less than $5,500 in a year or $15 per day while the lower middle class spend up to $8,500 annually, or $23 per day.
The middle class spends as much as $42,000 per year or $115 per day and the upper middle class spends more than $42,000 a year. I think in Kenya the middle class spends between USd 24,000-USD 30,000 Hio ya USD 42,000+is for uppper midro crass ecstacy, Guest (3), kysse, Swenani Hello If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Someone said before. A definition of terms as used in the west cant do for Africa
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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So Java has been serving Uji to its customers since Jan 1. I wonder how this class of people will take it "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/7/2007 Posts: 2,182
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there is no middle class in kenya, its either you are poor or rich, end of story LOVE WHAT YOU DO, DO WHAT YOU LOVE.
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murchr wrote:So Java has been serving Uji to its customers since Jan 1. I wonder how this class of people will take it uji with cream on top maybe !
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Muheani wrote:Someone said before. A definition of terms as used in the west cant do for Africa There is one and only definition of middle class in kenya. According to the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics (KNBS), Kenya’s middle class includes anybody spending between Sh23,670 and Sh199,999 monthly. The upper class are those who spend above Sh200,000 a month while the lower class are those who spend less than Sh23,670 per month) Therefore if, say, you live in Kayole, and each month you spend 8,000 on rent, transport 4000, food 5000, phombe 3000, phone 1000, school fees 3000, to give a total expenditure of 24k, then you are middle class.
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hardwood wrote:Muheani wrote:Someone said before. A definition of terms as used in the west cant do for Africa There is one and only definition of middle class in kenya. According to the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics (KNBS), Kenya’s middle class includes anybody spending between Sh23,670 and Sh199,999 monthly. The upper class are those who spend above Sh200,000 a month while the lower class are those who spend less than Sh23,670 per month) Therefore if, say, you live in Kayole, and each month you spend 8,000 on rent, transport 4000, food 5000, phombe 3000, phone 1000, school fees 3000, to give a total expenditure of 24k, then you are middle class. If you can afford the basic needs,you are not poor! A poor person is anyone who cannot affordatleast one of the basic needs If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Chief Joined: 5/9/2007 Posts: 13,095
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hardwood wrote:Muheani wrote:Someone said before. A definition of terms as used in the west cant do for Africa There is one and only definition of middle class in kenya. According to the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics (KNBS), Kenya’s middle class includes anybody spending between Sh23,670 and Sh199,999 monthly. The upper class are those who spend above Sh200,000 a month while the lower class are those who spend less than Sh23,670 per month) Therefore if, say, you live in Kayole, and each month you spend 8,000 on rent, transport 4000, food 5000, phombe 3000, phone 1000, school fees 3000, to give a total expenditure of 24k, then you are middle class.  I know its just an example, but am wondering...Could there be someone who spends equal amounts of money for fees and phombe?
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washiku wrote:hardwood wrote:Muheani wrote:Someone said before. A definition of terms as used in the west cant do for Africa There is one and only definition of middle class in kenya. According to the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics (KNBS), Kenya’s middle class includes anybody spending between Sh23,670 and Sh199,999 monthly. The upper class are those who spend above Sh200,000 a month while the lower class are those who spend less than Sh23,670 per month) Therefore if, say, you live in Kayole, and each month you spend 8,000 on rent, transport 4000, food 5000, phombe 3000, phone 1000, school fees 3000, to give a total expenditure of 24k, then you are middle class. I know its just an example, but am wondering...Could there be someone who spends equal amounts of money for fees and phombe? Yes!!! a "Single" Bachelor. ...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/28/2015 Posts: 9,562 Location: Rodi Kopany, Homa Bay
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Kaigangio wrote:washiku wrote:hardwood wrote:Muheani wrote:Someone said before. A definition of terms as used in the west cant do for Africa There is one and only definition of middle class in kenya. According to the Kenya National Bureau of Statistics (KNBS), Kenya’s middle class includes anybody spending between Sh23,670 and Sh199,999 monthly. The upper class are those who spend above Sh200,000 a month while the lower class are those who spend less than Sh23,670 per month) Therefore if, say, you live in Kayole, and each month you spend 8,000 on rent, transport 4000, food 5000, phombe 3000, phone 1000, school fees 3000, to give a total expenditure of 24k, then you are middle class. I know its just an example, but am wondering...Could there be someone who spends equal amounts of money for fees and phombe? Yes!!! a "Single" Bachelor. I assume the neighborhood kindergarten would charge 10k per term. That's about 3k per month. Or if the kid is in a public primary school, the cost would be much much less than phombe coz of the free primary education.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/4/2006 Posts: 13,822 Location: Nairobi
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I really don't understand how and why the term 'middle class' became an insult... I actually think everyone here is 'middle class'... if your are in the 'working class' YOU ARE MIDRO CRASS.... UPENDE USIPENDE!! All Mushrooms are edible! Some Mushroom are only edible ONCE!
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