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Pan Africa Insurance HY 2014 earnings down 51%
muganda
#1 Posted : Friday, August 08, 2014 12:02:03 PM
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I read this Pan Africa Insurance Holdings with disbelief. Then I remember why Peter Lynch suspects businesses growing by over 50%, due to the one-off shenanigans.

How does this company grow 267% last HY 2013, 108% full year 2013, then just saddle us with a - 51% HY 2014 result.

Net written premiums up 32%
Total income up 10%
Net claims adverse up 31%
Profit before tax down 42%
Earnings down 51%

https://www.nse.co.ke/listed-com...-ltd-half-year-results
VituVingiSana
#2 Posted : Friday, August 08, 2014 1:10:34 PM
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Well @muganda Insurance Firms have 'volatile' earnings so you need to deduct the one-offs from their results. Some like Jubilee, are conservative in locking/reporting unrealized gains so an 'excellent' year is shown as a 'good' year while a 'poor' year can be juiced up. BTW, I like Jubilee & the management is an honest so please don't take this as a criticism.

Read Warren Buffett on earnings of Insurance Firms and why you have to look long-term or average not on Quarterly or Annual performances .
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#3 Posted : Saturday, August 09, 2014 12:23:05 AM
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muganda wrote:
I read this PanAfrica Insurance Holdings with disbelief. Then I remember why Peter Lynch suspects businesses growing by over 50%..

Not surprised. That growth rate was unsustainable.
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#4 Posted : Saturday, August 09, 2014 3:18:47 AM
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hisah #14 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 4:17:10 AM wrote:
Like I stated in the wazua group a few weeks back, this thing is a sell the news and I sold ahead of the news. As long as NSE remains choppy insurance firms that count on equity performance will get a rough income shave. EABL & Uchumi showing consumer purchasing power is dented. The Sanlam buy hype is overdone... Time will tell when 100 handle gets tested and lower.

**DTK too is displaying PAFR buy side weakness. Those chasing above 220...


The pigs were being fattened for slaughter, going by the number of posts Wazuans must have jumped ship
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#5 Posted : Saturday, August 09, 2014 7:46:08 AM
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#6 Posted : Saturday, August 09, 2014 10:24:47 AM
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I jumped out of this ship when it zoomed past 120 so I'll watch the show from the sidelines
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#7 Posted : Saturday, August 09, 2014 3:12:55 PM
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I hope cfci doesnt copy this bad behaviour.
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#8 Posted : Saturday, August 09, 2014 3:20:48 PM
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Expect good results from cfci
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#9 Posted : Saturday, August 09, 2014 7:38:11 PM
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uchumi wrote:
Expect good results from cfci


Roger that...
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#10 Posted : Monday, August 11, 2014 1:09:37 AM
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I was in this bandwagon but I jumped ship with slightly over 100% gain;I still believe insurance in Kenya are good M&A targets for multi-nationals buying the africa rising hype.But am looking more towards CIC,Britam or UAP as they are largely indigenous companies with individual shareholders holding blocks of stocks.
maka
#11 Posted : Wednesday, February 18, 2015 5:44:35 PM
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Profit warning pap...
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murchr
#12 Posted : Wednesday, February 18, 2015 5:53:37 PM
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maka wrote:
Profit warning pap...


Dyer & Blair wrote:
Dear Esteemed Client,

Pan Africa Insurance Holdings has issued a profit warning for the year ended 31st December 2014. The company expects profit after tax for the period ending 31 December 2014 to decline more than 25 percent compared to the profit reported for the year ended 31st December 2014. The decline is attributable to the lower profits from sale of property in 2014 compared to 2013 and lower unrealized mark-to-market gains on equity investments in 2014.

The company reported a 42.46 percent drop in profit before tax during the first half of 2014 majorly from lower gains in equity investments in 2014 compared to 2013.
The company’s shareholders, in December 2014, approved the acquisition of at least 51 percent of Gateway insurance company limited. Through this acquisition, the company seeks to enter into the general insurance business.

Pan Africa trades at a price to earnings of 9.1x and a price to book of 3.4x compared to a sector average of 13x and 2.9x respectively.

Risks: Competition within the life business has been edging into the company’s gross premiums. Exposure to the equities market remains key risk.

Upside: The entry into the general business will cushion the overall premium growth for the company which has been under competitive pressure. Insurance penetration remains very low in the operating market, thereby presenting an opportunity for both life and general business.
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Pesa Nane
#13 Posted : Wednesday, February 18, 2015 9:54:13 PM
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hisah
#14 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 8:10:39 AM
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Has been a sell since Q1 2014. It's a no brainer CGT confusion will shave the equity porfolio again. If the incoming CBK governor spooks the market... You get the drift.

When is short selling starting to reset utopia valuations on some counters?
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actuarywahisa
#15 Posted : Thursday, February 19, 2015 10:33:41 AM
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hisah wrote:
Has been a sell since Q1 2014. It's a no brainer CGT confusion will shave the equity porfolio again. If the incoming CBK governor spooks the market... You get the drift.

When is short selling starting to reset utopia valuations on some counters?


Very true. The CGT thing will really dent the companies that are heavily invested in the stock market. Methinks though that good opportunities are also going to show up due to the same. We need to kaa chonjo!!
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Pesa Nane
#16 Posted : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 10:47:19 AM
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Pan Africa Insurance Holdings Limited - Appointment of the Group CEO

Pesa Nane plans to be shilingi when he grows up.
chiaroscuro
#17 Posted : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:04:26 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Pan Africa Insurance Holdings Limited - Appointment of the Group CEO




Can he do a repeat of what he did at EA Cables?
Othelo
#18 Posted : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:19:21 AM
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chiaroscuro wrote:
Pesa Nane wrote:
Pan Africa Insurance Holdings Limited - Appointment of the Group CEO




Can he do a repeat of what he did at EA Cables?

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#19 Posted : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 11:25:54 AM
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Pesa Nane wrote:
Pan Africa Insurance Holdings Limited - Appointment of the Group CEO



If his track record is anything to go by, this is a fantastic appointment.
Now my interest in this counter is piqued.
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#20 Posted : Wednesday, February 25, 2015 1:24:00 PM
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Let's see his investment skills and how they will be applied as insurance companies are more of investment companies.
Me thinks the appointment has also a political alignment.
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