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Why Can't we sing Like Tycho?
alma
#1 Posted : Monday, February 24, 2014 11:19:25 PM
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Quote:
Hey kids, shake it loose together
The spotlight's hitting something
That's been known to change the weather
We'll kill the fatted calf tonight
So stick around
You're gonna hear electric music
Solid walls of sound. Say, Candy and Ronnie, have you seen them yet
But they're so spaced out, Bennie and the Jets
Oh but they're weird and they're wonderful
Oh Bennie she's really keen
She's got electric boots a mohair suit
You know I read it in a magazine
Bennie and the JetsHey kids, plug into the faithless
Maybe they're blinded
But Bennie makes them ageless
We shall survive, let us take ourselves along
Where we fight our parents out in the streets
To find who's right and who's wrong


Now if a Kenyan musician can understand what this song is all about, I'll promote him free online.

Music is one step away from Poetry.

And 100 steps from Tycho.

Now can anyone figure out what the poem is all about....without googling?

Music died in Africa with Franco.

Respectfully.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
Muriel
#2 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:29:42 AM
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alma wrote:
Quote:
Hey kids, shake it loose together
The spotlight's hitting something
That's been known to change the weather
We'll kill the fatted calf tonight
So stick around
You're gonna hear electric music
Solid walls of sound. Say, Candy and Ronnie, have you seen them yet
But they're so spaced out, Bennie and the Jets
Oh but they're weird and they're wonderful
Oh Bennie she's really keen
She's got electric boots a mohair suit
You know I read it in a magazine
Bennie and the JetsHey kids, plug into the faithless
Maybe they're blinded
But Bennie makes them ageless
We shall survive, let us take ourselves along
Where we fight our parents out in the streets
To find who's right and who's wrong


Now if a Kenyan musician can understand what this song is all about, I'll promote him free online.

Music is one step away from Poetry.

And 100 steps from Tycho.

Now can anyone figure out what the poem is all about....without googling?

Music died in Africa with Franco.

Respectfully.



But I do understand it.

It is quite organized.

It is organized confusion.

Quite slick, I tell you. The effort that went to come up with this is superhuman.
Swenani
#3 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 8:45:22 AM
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Muriel wrote:
alma wrote:
Quote:
Hey kids, shake it loose together
The spotlight's hitting something
That's been known to change the weather
We'll kill the fatted calf tonight
So stick around
You're gonna hear electric music
Solid walls of sound. Say, Candy and Ronnie, have you seen them yet
But they're so spaced out, Bennie and the Jets
Oh but they're weird and they're wonderful
Oh Bennie she's really keen
She's got electric boots a mohair suit
You know I read it in a magazine
Bennie and the JetsHey kids, plug into the faithless
Maybe they're blinded
But Bennie makes them ageless
We shall survive, let us take ourselves along
Where we fight our parents out in the streets
To find who's right and who's wrong


Now if a Kenyan musician can understand what this song is all about, I'll promote him free online.

Music is one step away from Poetry.

And 100 steps from Tycho.

Now can anyone figure out what the poem is all about....without googling?

Music died in Africa with Franco.

Respectfully.



But I do understand it.

It is quite organized.

It is organized confusion.

Quite slick, I tell you. The effort that went to come up with this is superhuman.


I agree with you
If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
tycho
#4 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 11:33:28 AM
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I find the lyrics powerful, even scary. In the end the confrontation between the right and the wrong leaves the aftertaste of a failed 'revolution'.

But the poetry has its sweetness and the call for shaking an oppressive 'system' loose is enchanting.

accelriskconsult
#5 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 2:32:23 PM
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These lyrics point to a possibly drug induced genius. The Biblical fatted calf was killed for the prodigal son. Elton John and Bernie Taupin probably considered themselves prodigals in the hedonistic music of the 70s that saw drugs, music and partying go hand in hand. Check these lyrics from another genius, Leonard Cohen ;

Now I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
It goes like this
The fourth, the fifth
The minor fall, the major lift
The baffled king composing "Hallelujah"

Chorus:
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you
She tied you to a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

Chorus

Baby I have been here before
I know this room, I've walked this floor
I used to live alone before I knew you
I've seen your flag on the marble arch
Love is not a victory march
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Chorus

There was a time you let me know
What's really going on below
But now you never show it to me, do you?
And remember when I moved in you
The holy dove was moving too
And every breath we drew was Hallelujah

Chorus

You say I took the name in vain
I don't even know the name
But if I did, well really, what's it to you?
There's a blaze of light
In every word
It doesn't matter which you heard
The holy or the broken Hallelujah

Chorus

Maybe there's a God above
But all I've ever learned from love
Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you
And it's not a cry that you hear at night
It's not somebody who's seen the light
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Chorus

I did my best, it wasn't much
I couldn't feel, so I tried to touch
I've told the truth, I didn't come to fool you
And even though
It all went wrong
I'll stand before the Lord of Song
With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah
tycho
#6 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 3:37:26 PM
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'Drug induced genius'. Hahaha!
Wakanyugi
#7 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:36:32 PM
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Posts: 1,634
accelriskconsult wrote:
These lyrics point to a possibly drug induced genius. The Biblical fatted calf was killed for the prodigal son. Elton John and Bernie Taupin probably considered themselves prodigals in the hedonistic music of the 70s that saw drugs, music and partying go hand in hand. Check these lyrics from another genius, Leonard Cohen ;

Now I've heard there was a secret chord
That David played, and it pleased the Lord
But you don't really care for music, do you?
It goes like this
The fourth, the fifth
The minor fall, the major lift
The baffled king composing "Hallelujah"

Chorus:
Hallelujah, Hallelujah
Hallelujah, Hallelujah

Your faith was strong but you needed proof
You saw her bathing on the roof
Her beauty and the moonlight overthrew you
She tied you to a kitchen chair
She broke your throne, and she cut your hair
And from your lips she drew the Hallelujah

Chorus

Baby I have been here before
I know this room, I've walked this floor
I used to live alone before I knew you
I've seen your flag on the marble arch
Love is not a victory march
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Chorus

There was a time you let me know
What's really going on below
But now you never show it to me, do you?
And remember when I moved in you
The holy dove was moving too
And every breath we drew was Hallelujah

Chorus

You say I took the name in vain
I don't even know the name
But if I did, well really, what's it to you?
There's a blaze of light
In every word
It doesn't matter which you heard
The holy or the broken Hallelujah

Chorus

Maybe there's a God above
But all I've ever learned from love
Was how to shoot somebody who outdrew you
And it's not a cry that you hear at night
It's not somebody who's seen the light
It's a cold and it's a broken Hallelujah

Chorus

I did my best, it wasn't much
I couldn't feel, so I tried to touch
I've told the truth, I didn't come to fool you
And even though
It all went wrong
I'll stand before the Lord of Song
With nothing on my tongue but Hallelujah


Leonard Cohen was clearly drug induced. He initially wrote over 80 stanzas of this song and it is only later renditions that chopped it down.

By the way there is an autobiography of "Hallelujah" that tells the story - or rather Cohen's cooperation with Jeff Buckley.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
alma
#8 Posted : Tuesday, February 25, 2014 4:51:14 PM
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Just legalise it.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
tycho
#9 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 3:52:01 PM
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alma wrote:
Just legalise it.


The 'use', perhaps 'abuse' of drugs seems to be misunderstood; and that we can speak of 'drug induced' genius may be a confession to neither understanding genius nor drugs.

Why do people take drugs? Is drug use or abuse proportional to stress levels experienced?

For example, rather than have 'alcoblow' why not regularly lower depression and stress levels through techniques that can mimic alcohol effects?
Wakanyugi
#10 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:20:44 PM
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Posts: 1,634
tycho wrote:
alma wrote:
Just legalise it.

The 'use', perhaps 'abuse' of drugs seems to be misunderstood;

Why do people take drugs? Is drug use or abuse proportional to stress levels experienced?



Tycho, I think you might understand the use/abuse of drugs if you start from the premise that genius, like the tendency to crime, is a form of psychopathology. Some of the smartest Kenyans are either in Universities or in Jail, both places where substance abuse is quite common.

Coincidence? I don't think so.
"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
chemos
#11 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 4:25:20 PM
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Ngai fafa... Kutonyita nayo!!!
Wakanyugi
#12 Posted : Thursday, February 27, 2014 5:50:49 PM
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chemos wrote:
Ngai fafa... Kutonyita nayo!!!


Sorry. Not my intention to confuse.

Just a long winded way of saying genius is the reverse side of criminal. Both are not 'normal' behaviour for human beings and the stress they cause tends to lead one to substance abuse, as one way of coping.

In extreme cases these stresses cause insanity.

So the next time you are looking for a genius or a potential criminal, you know where to go.

The next time someone calls you a genius....

"The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth." (Niels Bohr)
tycho
#13 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 1:17:23 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
alma wrote:
Just legalise it.

The 'use', perhaps 'abuse' of drugs seems to be misunderstood;

Why do people take drugs? Is drug use or abuse proportional to stress levels experienced?



Tycho, I think you might understand the use/abuse of drugs if you start from the premise that genius, like the tendency to crime, is a form of psychopathology. Some of the smartest Kenyans are either in Universities or in Jail, both places where substance abuse is quite common.

Coincidence? I don't think so.


This isn't a coincidence, and the main suspicion is that normal life tends to present too much inhibition, and the only vent easy to find is through drugs. But this is a weakness in our social structure and culture.

I hold the opinion that mind altering events and actions should not only be used by normal adults when needed, but that qualified personnel should help provide this service.

Other natural and non chemical interventions like yoga and meditation, and deep trance therapies like hypnosis and shamanic dances should also be used to keep minds on an even keel.

That way, genius, or high levels of intelligence or even generally high stress levels will not be associated with drug and substance abuse and crime.
Muriel
#14 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 4:20:30 PM
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tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
alma wrote:
Just legalise it.

The 'use', perhaps 'abuse' of drugs seems to be misunderstood;

Why do people take drugs? Is drug use or abuse proportional to stress levels experienced?



Tycho, I think you might understand the use/abuse of drugs if you start from the premise that genius, like the tendency to crime, is a form of psychopathology. Some of the smartest Kenyans are either in Universities or in Jail, both places where substance abuse is quite common.

Coincidence? I don't think so.


This isn't a coincidence, and the main suspicion is that normal life tends to present too much inhibition, and the only vent easy to find is through drugs. But this is a weakness in our social structure and culture.

I hold the opinion that mind altering events and actions should not only be used by normal adults when needed, but that qualified personnel should help provide this service.

Other natural and non chemical interventions like yoga and meditation, and deep trance therapies like hypnosis and shamanic dances should also be used to keep minds on an even keel.

That way, genius, or high levels of intelligence or even generally high stress levels will not be associated with drug and substance abuse and crime.


Thanks ,,,,,, but, are they really necessary?
Muriel
#15 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 4:22:07 PM
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Wakanyugi wrote:
chemos wrote:
Ngai fafa... Kutonyita nayo!!!


Sorry. Not my intention to confuse.

Just a long winded way of saying genius is the reverse side of criminal. Both are not 'normal' behaviour for human beings and the stress they cause tends to lead one to substance abuse, as one way of coping.

In extreme cases these stresses cause insanity.

So the next time you are looking for a genius or a potential criminal, you know where to go.

The next time someone calls you a genius....





hhhmmmmmm ,,,,,,,,,,,
tycho
#16 Posted : Tuesday, March 04, 2014 6:02:00 PM
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Muriel wrote:
tycho wrote:
Wakanyugi wrote:
tycho wrote:
alma wrote:
Just legalise it.

The 'use', perhaps 'abuse' of drugs seems to be misunderstood;

Why do people take drugs? Is drug use or abuse proportional to stress levels experienced?



Tycho, I think you might understand the use/abuse of drugs if you start from the premise that genius, like the tendency to crime, is a form of psychopathology. Some of the smartest Kenyans are either in Universities or in Jail, both places where substance abuse is quite common.

Coincidence? I don't think so.


This isn't a coincidence, and the main suspicion is that normal life tends to present too much inhibition, and the only vent easy to find is through drugs. But this is a weakness in our social structure and culture.

I hold the opinion that mind altering events and actions should not only be used by normal adults when needed, but that qualified personnel should help provide this service.

Other natural and non chemical interventions like yoga and meditation, and deep trance therapies like hypnosis and shamanic dances should also be used to keep minds on an even keel.

That way, genius, or high levels of intelligence or even generally high stress levels will not be associated with drug and substance abuse and crime.


Thanks ,,,,,, but, are they really necessary?


Just like the body has its exercises, so does the mind and soul. By neglecting them we neglect an important aspect of our health.
alma
#17 Posted : Sunday, April 06, 2014 12:30:43 AM
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Suuuunngg this for my gashungwa.

She wanted they money
Didn't have any
So had to think quickly
had to make feel guilty
It's Friday
Before I go to my wife on Saturday
Mukiri and Alphodoty
Poley

So i suuuungg

Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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