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Rank: Member Joined: 7/9/2011 Posts: 730 Location: Nairobi
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On KTN there are two churches which run adverts inviting you t worship with them. Everytime I see any of them I cant help thinking they culd use their money better in spreading their gospel or helping others. our goals are best achieved indirectly
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Rank: Elder Joined: 4/22/2010 Posts: 11,522 Location: Nairobi
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kiterunner wrote:On KTN there are two churches which run adverts inviting you t worship with them. Everytime I see any of them I cant help thinking they culd use their money better in spreading their gospel or helping others. Its business they need to generate revenues....to get the numbers they have to advertise. possunt quia posse videntur
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,460
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Every BUSINESS needs to advertise to generate more revenue through increased SALES. If your services/products are good, you can survive through referrals. If they are FAKE or you want to expand/grow REVENUE at a faster rate, you have to advertise. Welcome to MPesa Ministries of Kenya! "Pia tunauza holy water (never mind ni ya kanjo!) na anointed oil (uende upake pikipiki yako ndio biashara iwache kwenda chini! Kuna customer alikupatia pesa imetoka kwa mga'nga bla bla bla). Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Member Joined: 11/25/2013 Posts: 402
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They like to argue that there is a distinction between advertisement and information. They only pass the message and inform people who could be interested of where they are located and the services offered. We all know these are businesses whose main motive is profit making.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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Ole Lenku wrote:They like to argue that there is a distinction between advertisement and information. They only pass the message and inform people who could be interested of where they are located and the services offered. We all know these are businesses whose main motive is profit making. Only a (spiritual?) fool would fall for that line. Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,460
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Rankaz13 wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:They like to argue that there is a distinction between advertisement and information. They only pass the message and inform people who could be interested of where they are located and the services offered. We all know these are businesses whose main motive is profit making. Only a (spiritual?) fool would fall for that line. And they do - big time!! A very huge number of Kenyans are TOTALLY brainwashed by these so called churches akin to what happens in cults. The followers buy everything they are told and they are ready to protect 'their' church and pastor/ bishop/ prophet/ whatever! They will not even entertain a discussion questioning what is happening at the church. At JCC for example, they call the pastor and his wife mum and dad!! That is cult like behaviour!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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MaichBlack wrote:Rankaz13 wrote:Ole Lenku wrote:They like to argue that there is a distinction between advertisement and information. They only pass the message and inform people who could be interested of where they are located and the services offered. We all know these are businesses whose main motive is profit making. Only a (spiritual?) fool would fall for that line. And they do - big time!! A very huge number of Kenyans are TOTALLY brainwashed by these so called churches akin to what happens in cults. The followers buy everything they are told and they are ready to protect 'their' church and pastor/ bishop/ prophet/ whatever! They will not even entertain a discussion questioning what is happening at the church. At JCC for example, they call the pastor and his wife mum and dad!! That is cult like behaviour!!! Its happening in a lot of places!! Check this out, Rabboni Centre Ministries church goers having a meal prescribed by the Pastor!!       
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,548
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Looks like "pastor" cheated them, once again, the usual, that they will get a man. A New Kenya
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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Brainwashing it is. And women are most vulnerable. By the time this south african 'man of god' thought of making them eat grass he must have been bored... this was probably an experiment... He was probably thinking let me see how far these people will go to obey my claptrap. Smh!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 1/16/2007 Posts: 1,320
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Church Going MEN (The traditional sense of the word) yaani WANAUME in wazua... kindly give me me your honest answer to this. How many of you are 100% ok with closing your eyes, raising your hands and swaying away to 'worship music' i.e to these types of lyrics Wrap me in your arms lord X 20 Draw me close to you X10 Never Let me Go X 5 Let me feel the warmth of your embrace X 7 I honestly want to hear divergent views, i cannot bring myself to sing those things at all. Give me a hymm any day, lakini 'wrap me in your arms?'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,460
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@Kratos - People NEED prayers. Real prayers - not maombi ya bei ya jioni! How does someone convince you to eat grass? And you go on your all fours like a cow!? What kind of brainwashing is this? And at what level was your IQ before it started? And have you seen the chair for the pastor and whom I presume is the wife? Symbolism kibao! Who do they think they are? What are they trying to portray to the followers. On a different note, no wonder at times you meet men talking to themselves or holed in the bar! Imagine marrying a nice beautiful lady and out of the blues she is brainwashed by one of these pastors! All of a sudden she's eating grass, taking all the money - including yours - to the church/pastor, applying anointed water oil and 'holy' water on your kids etc. What next? And if you try to talk she is told the devil is working through you and she needs to give more sadaka and buy more anointed oil to cast the demons out of you!! He he he. Any wazuan who has been a victim? This would totally drive you nuts!!! Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/21/2013 Posts: 2,841 Location: Here
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MaichBlack wrote:@Kratos - People NEED prayers. Real prayers - not maombi ya bei ya jioni! How does someone convince you to eat grass? And you go on your all fours like a cow!? What kind of brainwashing is this? And at what level was your IQ before it started?
And have you seen the chair for the pastor and whom I presume is the wife? Symbolism kibao! Who do they think they are? What are they trying to portray to the followers.
On a different note, no wonder at times you meet men talking to themselves or holed in the bar! Imagine marrying a nice beautiful lady and out of the blues she is brainwashed by one of these pastors! All of a sudden she's eating grass, taking all the money - including yours - to the church/pastor, applying anointed water oil and 'holy' water on your kids etc. What next? And if you try to talk she is told the devil is working through you and she needs to give more sadaka and buy more anointed oil to cast the demons out of you!! He he he. Any wazuan who has been a victim? This would totally drive you nuts!!!  pole sana mblo  Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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@Maich..
Aki ya nani i have seen that stuff.... Nikaambia bibi the day she will pick up on any such stuff TUNAACHANA roho safi. Hiyo upuzi i cannot take.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,460
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Rankaz13 wrote:MaichBlack wrote:@Kratos - People NEED prayers. Real prayers - not maombi ya bei ya jioni! How does someone convince you to eat grass? And you go on your all fours like a cow!? What kind of brainwashing is this? And at what level was your IQ before it started?
And have you seen the chair for the pastor and whom I presume is the wife? Symbolism kibao! Who do they think they are? What are they trying to portray to the followers.
On a different note, no wonder at times you meet men talking to themselves or holed in the bar! Imagine marrying a nice beautiful lady and out of the blues she is brainwashed by one of these pastors! All of a sudden she's eating grass, taking all the money - including yours - to the church/pastor, applying anointed water oil and 'holy' water on your kids etc. What next? And if you try to talk she is told the devil is working through you and she needs to give more sadaka and buy more anointed oil to cast the demons out of you!! He he he. Any wazuan who has been a victim? This would totally drive you nuts!!! pole sana mblo He he he. Just imagining what the husbands of these women must be going through. I'd never imagine being one of them! Would never wish that on anyone. Not even my biggest enemy! Or @Rankaz13 you have a 'friend' who is experiencing this?? Never count on making a good sale. Have the purchase price be so attractive that even a mediocre sale gives good returns.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/22/2009 Posts: 7,460
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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@ Maich, I call those seats in the picture "Saruman seats" hehehe from the lord of the rings trilogy. They're meant to portray power I guess. Anyway its very unfortunate that grown men and women can actually be convinced as such. Maombi ya kilo kumi wapewe!
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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Since I showed religion the middle finger, I have become much happier. No more hell and heaven worries, no more extortion, no more morality judgement shits etc etc etc. These Christianity and islamic things are all LIES!!!!!! Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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Mtu Biz wrote:
Church Going MEN (The traditional sense of the word) yaani WANAUME in wazua... kindly give me me your honest answer to this.
How many of you are 100% ok with closing your eyes, raising your hands and swaying away to 'worship music' i.e to these types of lyrics
Wrap me in your arms lord X 20
Draw me close to you X10
Never Let me Go X 5
Let me feel the warmth of your embrace X 7
I honestly want to hear divergent views, i cannot bring myself to sing those things at all.
Give me a hymm any day, lakini 'wrap me in your arms?'
I have no problem with those lyrics. Coz at that moment naomba Mungu wangu. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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Kwingine, when the pastor is praying for you, unasema "Yes Sir!" instead of "Amen!" SMH Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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Jus Blazin wrote:Kwingine, when the pastor is praying for you, unasema "Yes Sir!" instead of "Amen!" SMH why now?
“People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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