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kingfisher
#1 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2013 5:23:28 PM
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Anyone here who can offer me a bird or two? I need to start keeping them.
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#2 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2013 6:41:24 PM
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wangu.n
#3 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2013 7:15:30 PM
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@mukiri send me too.. ncwangu gmail com.
who do you sell to? End user? Meat or eggs
jerry
#4 Posted : Monday, November 18, 2013 9:26:20 PM
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wangu.n wrote:
@mukiri send me too.. ncwangu gmail com.
who do you sell to? End user? Meat or eggs

Research first before indulgence!
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#5 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:13:25 AM
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jerry wrote:
wangu.n wrote:
@mukiri send me too.. ncwangu gmail com.
who do you sell to? End user? Meat or eggs

Research first before indulgence!


This Quail rearing will Choma people proper. Why is it that pple like to emulate whatever business others are doing without researching. Many pple are keeping quails now with the hope of selling eggs, then market floods in a few months timeSad Sad Sad
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#6 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 8:53:16 AM
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Am wrote:
jerry wrote:
wangu.n wrote:
@mukiri send me too.. ncwangu gmail com.
who do you sell to? End user? Meat or eggs

Research first before indulgence!


This Quail rearing will Choma people proper. Why is it that pple like to emulate whatever business others are doing without researching. Many pple are keeping quails now with the hope of selling eggs, then market floods in a few months timeSad Sad Sad

Doesn't have to be commercial. One can do it for home consumption. Start small and grow.

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kingfisher
#7 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:44:13 AM
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@am... kila kitu si lazima mbiashara!!!
When I have money, I get rid of it quickly, lest it find a way into my heart.
Lolest!
#8 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:54:21 AM
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who is eating these eggs and the meat? Let's start from there.
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#9 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 10:54:35 AM
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http://www.businessdailyafrica.com/Engineer-drops-chickens-for-big-life-in-small-birds/-/1248928/2078378/-/hociqqz/-/index.html

C&P
He sells the five-week-olds at Sh300. An egg is currently retailing at Sh80 to Sh100.
Gathige
#10 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:06:39 AM
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Lolest! wrote:
who is eating these eggs and the meat? Let's start from there.


@Lolest, I meet a Vet who confided to me that the thing is just a fad and people are making money by either selling the birds or eggs to others. There is no mass market of consumers and it will slowly die naturally like other pyramid schemes once the early adopters have made their cash and subsequent investors have no one to buy from them.

It's a good way to make quick cash and then get out soonest.

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Lolest!
#11 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:26:24 AM
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Gathige wrote:
Lolest! wrote:
who is eating these eggs and the meat? Let's start from there.


@Lolest, I meet a Vet who confided to me that the thing is just a fad and people are making money by either selling the birds or eggs to others. There is no mass market of consumers and it will slowly die naturally like other pyramid schemes once the early adopters have made their cash and subsequent investors have no one to buy from them.

It's a good way to make quick cash and then get out soonest.


There's a facebook page for quail farmers. I've followed arguments there wich sound convincing especially on the lower production costs when compared to chicken.

But there's chicken in every restaurant I'm yet to see quail.

I read some opinion piece which alleged that the whole extra nutrition story is hype
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Lolest!
#12 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 11:31:47 AM
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Quit your jobsmile

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Let’s now do some simple money calculations for quail farming in Kenya. Suppose you have 1000 quails. You will need 20kg (20g x 1000) of layers mash every day. That will cost you at most Ksh.600 (20kg x sh30). Quails are very good layers; each bird can give you up to 330 eggs per year for the first two years. That is to say they lay at a rate of about 90%. Thus, with 1000 quails, let’s expect 900 eggs each day. Now the best deal is that due to the great demand and little supply of quail eggs, they are currently being sold at Ksh.35 each. That’s no hype too! Just go to a supermarket stocking quail eggs and come tell us what you find out. So we have Ksh.31,500 in sales per day. Minus our feeding costs of Ksh.600 and any other running costs that definitely won’t go beyond Ksh.1000 per day, you have a clean Ksh30,000 profit per day. Sounds too good to be true, huh? But there, you have the facts.

http://poultrysuccess.bl...ng-in-kenya-talk-of.html
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#13 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:05:12 PM
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[quote=Lolest!]Quit your jobsmile

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Let’s now do some simple money calculations for quail farming in Kenya. Suppose you have 1000 quails. You will need 20kg (20g x 1000) of layers mash every day. That will cost you at most Ksh.600 (20kg x sh30). Quails are very good layers; each bird can give you up to 330 eggs per year for the first two years. That is to say they lay at a rate of about 90%. Thus, with 1000 quails, let’s expect 900 eggs each day. Now the best deal is that due to the great demand and little supply of quail eggs, they are currently being sold at Ksh.35 each. That’s no hype too! Just go to a supermarket stocking quail eggs and come tell us what you find out. So we have Ksh.31,500 in sales per day. Minus our feeding costs of Ksh.600 and any other running costs that definitely won’t go beyond Ksh.1000 per day, you have a clean Ksh30,000 profit per day. Sounds too good to be true, huh? But there, you have the facts.

http://poultrysuccess.bl...g-in-kenya-talk-of.html[/quote]


@Lolest, One lesson i learnt while doing chicken farming is never do farming profit maths using a calculator! Farming is like the story of Job in the old Testament. At one point you have 100 bulls in the field and the next minute a plague has struck and are at Nil!

A guy recently told me that there is someone making 1 M from quill eggs ( 10,000 birds each laying an egg a day at a price of Kshs 100 an egg) which is a cool 300M a month gross. This being a legal business, it would make drug ballons envy wakulima.
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KulaRaha
#14 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 12:13:05 PM
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I really want to try quail meat. Where is it sold?
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 3:16:52 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
I really want to try quail meat. Where is it sold?


Amaica Restaurante, Upperhill or kuna ingine huko sides ya Village market or along that road to Village market.
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#16 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 3:23:02 PM
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Gathige wrote:
[quote=Lolest!]Quit your jobsmile

Quote:
Let’s now do some simple money calculations for quail farming in Kenya. Suppose you have 1000 quails. You will need 20kg (20g x 1000) of layers mash every day. That will cost you at most Ksh.600 (20kg x sh30). Quails are very good layers; each bird can give you up to 330 eggs per year for the first two years. That is to say they lay at a rate of about 90%. Thus, with 1000 quails, let’s expect 900 eggs each day. Now the best deal is that due to the great demand and little supply of quail eggs, they are currently being sold at Ksh.35 each. That’s no hype too! Just go to a supermarket stocking quail eggs and come tell us what you find out. So we have Ksh.31,500 in sales per day. Minus our feeding costs of Ksh.600 and any other running costs that definitely won’t go beyond Ksh.1000 per day, you have a clean Ksh30,000 profit per day. Sounds too good to be true, huh? But there, you have the facts.

http://poultrysuccess.bl...g-in-kenya-talk-of.html[/quote]


@Lolest, One lesson i learnt while doing chicken farming is never do farming profit maths using a calculator! Farming is like the story of Job in the old Testament. At one point you have 100 bulls in the field and the next minute a plague has struck and are at Nil!

A guy recently told me that there is someone making 1 M from quill eggs ( 10,000 birds each laying an egg a day at a price of Kshs 100 an egg) which is a cool 300M a month gross. This being a legal business, it would make drug ballons envy wakulima.



Wow, so where are this consumers of 10000 quil eggs daily?

For me its pure hype by the originators and reality is just around the corner.

Consolation is that you can consume them if you do not get mkt.

In Naxvegas where the quil rearing bug went viral, they are now giving the birds to Chokoras.The eggs are going for 10 bob........so I hear.


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#17 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 3:39:54 PM
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Impunity wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I really want to try quail meat. Where is it sold?


Amaica Restaurante, Upperhill or kuna ingine huko sides ya Village market or along that road to Village market.


I must go try...sad only one restaurant in this whole Nairobi serves the bird.
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Gathige
#18 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 3:49:01 PM
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KulaRaha wrote:
Impunity wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I really want to try quail meat. Where is it sold?


Amaica Restaurante, Upperhill or kuna ingine huko sides ya Village market or along that road to Village market.


I must go try...sad only one restaurant in this whole Nairobi serves the bird.


It seems the meat is only for the privileged and not the ordinary hoi polloi.
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KulaRaha
#19 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 3:51:36 PM
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Gathige wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
Impunity wrote:
KulaRaha wrote:
I really want to try quail meat. Where is it sold?


Amaica Restaurante, Upperhill or kuna ingine huko sides ya Village market or along that road to Village market.


I must go try...sad only one restaurant in this whole Nairobi serves the bird.


It seems the meat is only for the privileged and not the ordinary hoi polloi.


Really? Is this Amaica very posh, I've never been there...and most posh restaurants dont have quail on the menu.
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Lolest!
#20 Posted : Tuesday, November 19, 2013 4:55:51 PM
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For the sake of other people searching quail someone please change the topic from quill to quail. Quill is something different
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quill noun \ˈkwil\
: the hollow central part of a feather

: a large, stiff feather from the wing or tail of a bird

: a pen that is made from a feather
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