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Nairobi to become a Renminbi clearing house location
MuchNo
#1 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2013 6:11:01 PM
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It's been widely reported that on 19 Aug, 2013 President Kenyatta signed a massive KES 425 billion deal for amongst other things a new SGR track from Nairobi to Malaba, wildlife management (huh?), energy sector improvements and some other joint ventures. What has been reported almost as a by-the-way is that President Kenyatta and President Xi Jinping spoke about Kenya hosting a Renminbi clearing house.

This is surely a (huge, significant, momentous, nation-changing, all of the above) deal, not just for the fact that this will underline Kenya's place on the map when we start to clear a second currency, but also for what it adds to Kenya's positioning as a regional financial hub. Even South Africa - undoubtedly Africa's economic powerhouse - doesn't clear any currency other than their own. Is it just me, or is this fact not getting enough airplay?
murchr
#2 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2013 6:23:11 PM
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Airplay from who??? We have media houses of non thinkers and political minions. They dont even understand what's going on. You'll find them on club sk
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Big Show
#3 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2013 6:33:11 PM
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Guess they were too busy trying to get people to lose weight
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#4 Posted : Friday, August 23, 2013 6:58:08 PM
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http://en.wikipedia.org/...ing_house_%28finance%29

This will be very good for the country financially.
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MuchNo
#5 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2013 10:30:03 AM
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murchr wrote:
Airplay from who??? We have media houses of non thinkers and political minions. They dont even understand what's going on. You'll find them on club sk


I would hope those media houses are on Club SK, trying to learn about the important things in life. smile Seriously, this is something that we as Kenyans should be vigorously campaigning to become a reality.

Singapore's status as a global financial centre has gained significant credibility since they started hosting an Renminbi clearing house earlier this year (May 2013). This despite the fact that Singapore was already a recognised leading financial centre.

To paraphrase what Mr Githongo said, "it's our turn to reap!"
mkeiyd
#6 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2013 10:40:14 AM
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MuchNo wrote:
murchr wrote:
Airplay from who??? We have media houses of non thinkers and political minions. They dont even understand what's going on. You'll find them on club sk


I would hope those media houses are on Club SK, trying to learn about the important things in life. smile Seriously, this is something that we as Kenyans should be vigorously campaigning to become a reality.

Singapore's status as a global financial centre has gained significant credibility since they started hosting an Renminbi clearing house earlier this year (May 2013). This despite the fact that Singapore was already a recognised leading financial centre.

To paraphrase what Mr Githongo said, "it's our turn to reap!"

As it is,what is the preferred currency for importers from China? With China being one of the top two import destination, this would ease the pressure on KES against USD.
digitek1
#7 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2013 10:55:29 AM
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mkeiyd wrote:
MuchNo wrote:
murchr wrote:
Airplay from who??? We have media houses of non thinkers and political minions. They dont even understand what's going on. You'll find them on club sk


I would hope those media houses are on Club SK, trying to learn about the important things in life. smile Seriously, this is something that we as Kenyans should be vigorously campaigning to become a reality.

Singapore's status as a global financial centre has gained significant credibility since they started hosting an Renminbi clearing house earlier this year (May 2013). This despite the fact that Singapore was already a recognised leading financial centre.

To paraphrase what Mr Githongo said, "it's our turn to reap!"

As it is,what is the preferred currency for importers from China? With China being one of the top two import destination, this would ease the pressure on KES against USD.

So in lay man terms if am importing from Guangzhou I don't have to convert Kes to Usd first?
I may be wrong..but then I could be right
MuchNo
#8 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2013 11:19:35 AM
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digitek1 wrote:
mkeiyd wrote:
MuchNo wrote:
murchr wrote:
Airplay from who??? We have media houses of non thinkers and political minions. They dont even understand what's going on. You'll find them on club sk


I would hope those media houses are on Club SK, trying to learn about the important things in life. smile Seriously, this is something that we as Kenyans should be vigorously campaigning to become a reality.

Singapore's status as a global financial centre has gained significant credibility since they started hosting an Renminbi clearing house earlier this year (May 2013). This despite the fact that Singapore was already a recognised leading financial centre.

To paraphrase what Mr Githongo said, "it's our turn to reap!"

As it is,what is the preferred currency for importers from China? With China being one of the top two import destination, this would ease the pressure on KES against USD.

So in lay man terms if am importing from Guangzhou I don't have to convert Kes to Usd first?

Precisely. One would be able to convert directly to the Renminbi from the Kenya Shilling. In addition, you could accept payment in RMB denominated cheques, and you could have your local KES cheques accepted in China. Buying banker's cheques in Yuan (and Chinese buying KES denominated banker's cheques in China) would be a possible in Nairobi directly. Trade would, to put it delicately, blossom.

Apart from this, all regional economies would see the advantage of trading with China via Kenya because they too would not have to make the loss of exchanging KES for USD and then the USD for RMB. Hence, the shilling would become a significantly stronger currency - and currency trading in Kenya would be changed somewhat (I'm not qualified to comment on how exactly. Perhaps someone who is might like to do so).

All-in-all, Kenya would reap significant benefits...
digitek1
#9 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2013 11:30:46 AM
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MuchNo wrote:
digitek1 wrote:
mkeiyd wrote:
MuchNo wrote:
murchr wrote:
Airplay from who??? We have media houses of non thinkers and political minions. They dont even understand what's going on. You'll find them on club sk


I would hope those media houses are on Club SK, trying to learn about the important things in life. smile Seriously, this is something that we as Kenyans should be vigorously campaigning to become a reality.

Singapore's status as a global financial centre has gained significant credibility since they started hosting an Renminbi clearing house earlier this year (May 2013). This despite the fact that Singapore was already a recognised leading financial centre.

To paraphrase what Mr Githongo said, "it's our turn to reap!"

As it is,what is the preferred currency for importers from China? With China being one of the top two import destination, this would ease the pressure on KES against USD.

So in lay man terms if am importing from Guangzhou I don't have to convert Kes to Usd first?

Precisely. One would be able to convert directly to the Renminbi from the Kenya Shilling. In addition, you could accept payment in RMB denominated cheques, and you could have your local KES cheques accepted in China. Buying banker's cheques in Yuan (and Chinese buying KES denominated banker's cheques in China) would be a possible in Nairobi directly. Trade would, to put it delicately, blossom.

Apart from this, all regional economies would see the advantage of trading with China via Kenya because they too would not have to make the loss of exchanging KES for USD and then the USD for RMB. Hence, the shilling would become a significantly stronger currency - and currency trading in Kenya would be changed somewhat (I'm not qualified to comment on how exactly. Perhaps someone who is might like to do so).

All-in-all, Kenya would reap significant benefits...


Applause Applause how soon before this takes offApplause game changer especially with oil scenario


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poundfoolish
#10 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2013 11:38:30 AM
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i actually heard it over the BBC.. to them, the rail and infrastructure was all a by the way.. the exchange was the talking point..

Good for us.. Baaad for the West.. very baaaaad..

This is where Gaddafi faced their wrath if im not wrong..

Hopefully they let us be.. *kneels down to pray*
MuchNo
#11 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2013 12:18:17 PM
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poundfoolish wrote:
i actually heard it over the BBC.. to them, the rail and infrastructure was all a by the way.. the exchange was the talking point..

Good for us.. Baaad for the West.. very baaaaad..

This is where Gaddafi faced their wrath if im not wrong..

Hopefully they let us be.. *kneels down to pray*


Excuse my ignorance, but how did Gaddafi face the West's wrath? And what was it for (if not his personal and state-sanctioned support for terrorism)? Was Libya also clearing currency?

I'm not sure the extent of his cooperation with other countries as far as the development of his country went. I visited Tripoli pre-revolution and found that it was surprisingly run down, and if anyone was benefiting from any cooperation that was directly trickling down to the people (as the RMB clearing house will do for Kenya's Wanjiku), it was very effectively hidden.

For all the bravado in the media and his self-promoted 'green revolution', Gaddafi was an absolute economic dunderhead. He was sitting on what was reputed to be Africa's largest oil reserves, and instead of leveraging that to take Libya to the 21st century, he was enriching himself, his family and his cronies. Very small minded idiot.

On the other hand, this move (RMB Clearing House hosted in NBO), will benefit Wanjiku before it can benefit anyone else. Chinese banks will open up in Nairobi in a bid to be appointed the Clearing House host - that alone will attract private sector investment from China. Trade will increase between Kenya, China and other Asian nations, and between Kenya and other African nations wishing to take advantage of RMB Clearing in Nairobi. The economy will benefit, and the trickle down effects to Wanjiku will be felt almost immediately.

The West, meanwhile, will start to play catch-up as they'll want to remain significant. Geopolitically, Kenya is an important partner to Western hemisphere nations. We're playing a very important role in the fight against global terrorism, our new-found oil and mineral wealth makes us an important ally to have economically, and we showed that where necessary, we will defend our sovereignty without asking for assistance (and the West will want to continue being the preferred vendor in this respect). Hence, the West should see this as a positive development and want to promote business between themselves and Kenya as a consequence (yes, I used the "C" word).

In toto, this move should benefit Kenyans on two fronts - increased trade with the East, and increased trade with the West. Brilliant strategy if not a mistake. Let's see how it's played...
mkeiyd
#12 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2013 1:48:59 PM
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poundfoolish wrote:
i actually heard it over the BBC.. to them, the rail and infrastructure was all a by the way.. the exchange was the talking point..

Good for us.. Baaad for the West.. very baaaaad..

This is where Gaddafi faced their wrath if im not wrong..

Hopefully they let us be.. *kneels down to pray*


What PanAm have we brought down to be compared to Gaddafi?
We are not going to face any wrath from the West. The "wrath" we should be worried is what we ourselves can do to our country.
We need to be vigilant and demand transparency & accountability from the gov't.
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#13 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2013 2:23:00 PM
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This is a great move and will spur serious growth and international competition in the financial sector which will then trickle down to the economy at large. Hope it will be implemented soon by 2014 should be running.
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murchr
#14 Posted : Monday, August 26, 2013 4:57:22 PM
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King G wrote:
This is a great move and will spur serious growth and international competition in the financial sector which will then trickle down to the economy at large. Hope it will be implemented soon by 2014 should be running.


Hope so too, its about time
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murchr
#15 Posted : Thursday, April 16, 2015 12:04:04 AM
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Business Daily wrote:
Gas-rich Qatar has formally signed up to help Kenya set up the Nairobi International Financial Centre (NIFC) that is hoped to aid Nairobi’s push to host the coveted Chinese renminbi currency clearing centre.
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hisah
#16 Posted : Thursday, April 16, 2015 2:26:54 AM
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murchr wrote:
Business Daily wrote:
Gas-rich Qatar has formally signed up to help Kenya set up the Nairobi International Financial Centre (NIFC) that is hoped to aid Nairobi’s push to host the coveted Chinese renminbi currency clearing centre.

Qataris aid Kenya’s bid for centre to clear Chinese currency

Qatar, Kenya sign MOU for Development of Financial Centre

Sukuk bonds coming up. Eurobond, RMB clearing and sukuk and likely samurai bonds and KE is suddenly a financial hub. If well managed double digit GDP growth rate is possible! The fin hub will change the banking landscape as several global banks (western, asia, arabia) open shop to get some action.

Fantastic. Currency derivatives at NSE will be a hot bed smile
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#17 Posted : Thursday, April 16, 2015 4:30:58 AM
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'Assistance' from Qataris and Saudis give me the heebie jeebies. Where's Malaysia, Turkey or even Indonesia when you need them? Sigh.

Anyway, as long as their interest is just business and not propagating their Wahabbist bullshyet, its all good. Fingers crossed lol.
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#18 Posted : Friday, July 24, 2015 12:41:02 AM
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CCTV Africa wrote:


Kenyan Bank Hosts China’s Yuan Clearing Centre to Spur Trade

(Xinhua) — A Kenyan bank has opened a new branch that will host a clearing house for Chinese renminbi (RMB) that would allow the settlement of trade deals to help boost economic growth.

The National Bank of Kenya (NBK) said the Premium Branch located at an upscale shopping mall, Yaya Centre, in Nairobi, will benefit traders as it would cut the costs they incur when converting from the Kenyan shilling to the Yuan.

NBK Managing Director Munir Mohamed said during the launch on Wednesday evening that the clearing centre will accelerate trade between the two nations and ensure efficient service.

“We are approaching the issue from a holistic perspective and offering a unique service that will provide an opportunity for traders from Kenya and China to conduct business by making the Chinese currency available without intermediation,” Mohamed said.

He said bilateral trade between Kenya and China which has expanded enormously requires a flawless payment system that does not have to go through another intermediary currency.

“Africa should make sure that the RMB is internationally accepted for conversion from RMB and vice versa in order to balance trade between Africa and China,” Mohamed said.

Experts say the clearing house could boost trade between the two countries by easing commercial transactions as Kenyan exporters normally have payments processed through a lengthy process that involves physically sending Chinese payment cheques back to the country for clearance and payment.


http://cctv-africa.com/2...ng-centre-to-spur-trade/
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hisah
#19 Posted : Friday, July 24, 2015 8:06:05 AM
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murchr wrote:
CCTV Africa wrote:


Kenyan Bank Hosts China’s Yuan Clearing Centre to Spur Trade

(Xinhua) — A Kenyan bank has opened a new branch that will host a clearing house for Chinese renminbi (RMB) that would allow the settlement of trade deals to help boost economic growth.

The National Bank of Kenya (NBK) said the Premium Branch located at an upscale shopping mall, Yaya Centre, in Nairobi, will benefit traders as it would cut the costs they incur when converting from the Kenyan shilling to the Yuan.

NBK Managing Director Munir Mohamed said during the launch on Wednesday evening that the clearing centre will accelerate trade between the two nations and ensure efficient service.

“We are approaching the issue from a holistic perspective and offering a unique service that will provide an opportunity for traders from Kenya and China to conduct business by making the Chinese currency available without intermediation,” Mohamed said.

He said bilateral trade between Kenya and China which has expanded enormously requires a flawless payment system that does not have to go through another intermediary currency.

“Africa should make sure that the RMB is internationally accepted for conversion from RMB and vice versa in order to balance trade between Africa and China,” Mohamed said.

Experts say the clearing house could boost trade between the two countries by easing commercial transactions as Kenyan exporters normally have payments processed through a lengthy process that involves physically sending Chinese payment cheques back to the country for clearance and payment.


http://cctv-africa.com/2...g-centre-to-spur-trade/

NBK of all banks! d'oh!

Where is KCB??
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murchr
#20 Posted : Friday, July 24, 2015 6:19:28 PM
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hisah wrote:
murchr wrote:
CCTV Africa wrote:


Kenyan Bank Hosts China’s Yuan Clearing Centre to Spur Trade

(Xinhua) — A Kenyan bank has opened a new branch that will host a clearing house for Chinese renminbi (RMB) that would allow the settlement of trade deals to help boost economic growth.

The National Bank of Kenya (NBK) said the Premium Branch located at an upscale shopping mall, Yaya Centre, in Nairobi, will benefit traders as it would cut the costs they incur when converting from the Kenyan shilling to the Yuan.

NBK Managing Director Munir Mohamed said during the launch on Wednesday evening that the clearing centre will accelerate trade between the two nations and ensure efficient service.

“We are approaching the issue from a holistic perspective and offering a unique service that will provide an opportunity for traders from Kenya and China to conduct business by making the Chinese currency available without intermediation,” Mohamed said.

He said bilateral trade between Kenya and China which has expanded enormously requires a flawless payment system that does not have to go through another intermediary currency.

“Africa should make sure that the RMB is internationally accepted for conversion from RMB and vice versa in order to balance trade between Africa and China,” Mohamed said.

Experts say the clearing house could boost trade between the two countries by easing commercial transactions as Kenyan exporters normally have payments processed through a lengthy process that involves physically sending Chinese payment cheques back to the country for clearance and payment.


http://cctv-africa.com/2...g-centre-to-spur-trade/

NBK of all banks! d'oh!

Where is KCB??


Munir poached a set of FIERCE guys to work with him at NBK, I am watching his moves @CDE might have got it right on this one. Of interest though do you notice how the local media is in the dark on this...or is it that they don't get its importance?
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