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They already have estimates of Sh12.6 billion ($150 million)for land acquisition. Unless KAA has already identified the land , then the land / house owners in that area should brace themselves for any eventuality.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/25/2010 Posts: 939 Location: Nai
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15,000 acres?? that's more than the size of syokimau!! a third and 4th runway when the current one is not 100% utilized?? then if you calculate that amount and what people have invested there... its like 800K per acre na nyumba bado haujalipwa funny!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 5/7/2010 Posts: 282 Location: Nairobi
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jamplu wrote: if you calculate that amount and what people have invested there... its like 800K per acre na nyumba bado haujalipwa funny!! VERRY FUNNY!!!! An 1/8th in Syokimau goes for >2M!!!!
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/17/2012 Posts: 26 Location: Nairobi
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sky5 wrote:jamplu wrote: if you calculate that amount and what people have invested there... its like 800K per acre na nyumba bado haujalipwa funny!! VERRY FUNNY!!!! An 1/8th in Syokimau goes for >2M!!!! For them to acquire the core Syokimau land which is built-up they would need to pay for the land at commercial rates, otherwise they will be fighting legal battles against all sorts of residents. It would be strategy that is unnecessarily expensive with little chance of success. If you look at gmaps, there is a stretch that is empty to the North of the airport and I think this is the target. And I think there is some rent seeking at play here...
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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sky5 wrote:jamplu wrote: if you calculate that amount and what people have invested there... its like 800K per acre na nyumba bado haujalipwa funny!! VERRY FUNNY!!!! An 1/8th in Syokimau goes for >2M!!!! buyer beware I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/12/2009 Posts: 236 Location: Nairobi
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Its not gonna be a walk in the park to get what is legally ours.Since they have already made many suffer through demolitions and we saw it... they better shelf their ambitious plan
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Josey wrote:Its not gonna be a walk in the park to get what is legally ours.Since they have already made many suffer through demolitions and we saw it... they better shelf their ambitious plan Are you sure it is legally yours and you were not conned ukauziwa uwanja wa ndege? I hope people now know how to follow procedure when acquiring land. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/17/2012 Posts: 26 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Josey wrote:Its not gonna be a walk in the park to get what is legally ours.Since they have already made many suffer through demolitions and we saw it... they better shelf their ambitious plan Are you sure it is legally yours and you were not conned ukauziwa uwanja wa ndege? I hope people now know how to follow procedure when acquiring land. Msema kweli is the title deed: I have for all the pieces. If they touched mine I would take the to Mutunga, for his (h)earing *sic*  !!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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Josey wrote:Its not gonna be a walk in the park to get what is legally ours.Since they have already made many suffer through demolitions and we saw it... they better shelf their ambitious plan Rerask! The article is clear. It says ACQUIRE land meaning KAA acknowledges the land is not theirs. This will have to follow the rules of compulsory acquisition as set in Land Acquisition Act. They will value your land and improvements and add a figure for disturbance. They pay you this then it becomes their land. Alternatively, they could give you another piece of land(unlikely). Get a lawyer, let him comb through Cap 295 for you when it starts. The Mavoko MP could help you get more than the legal share by politicising.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 12,069 Location: Kianjokoma
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...and @josey @lietmatch, there are tribunals set for this in case govt values land and improvements at prices that you don't agree with. But the govt will take your land mpende msipende
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/21/2008 Posts: 2,490
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Lolest! wrote:...and @josey @lietmatch, there are tribunals set for this in case govt values land and improvements at prices that you don't agree with. But the govt will take your land mpende msipende How true is this? I hear the construction of the cabanas interchange on Msa road had stalled as the owner of that big blue building declined the valuation by the Govt. He has now been paid billions for the building to be demolished! The man who marries a beautiful woman, and the farmer who grows corn by the roadside have the same problem
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/4/2008 Posts: 2,849 Location: Rupi
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lietmach wrote:murchr wrote:Josey wrote:Its not gonna be a walk in the park to get what is legally ours.Since they have already made many suffer through demolitions and we saw it... they better shelf their ambitious plan Are you sure it is legally yours and you were not conned ukauziwa uwanja wa ndege? I hope people now know how to follow procedure when acquiring land. Msema kweli is the title deed: I have for all the pieces. If they touched mine I would take the to Mutunga, for his (h)earing *sic* !!! Lietmach be cautious though. Govt is known to have its way all the time. I know some owners of land along Kiambu road. They were compensated by force to pave way for the bypass. Lord, thank you!
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/17/2012 Posts: 26 Location: Nairobi
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Euge wrote:lietmach wrote:murchr wrote:Josey wrote:Its not gonna be a walk in the park to get what is legally ours.Since they have already made many suffer through demolitions and we saw it... they better shelf their ambitious plan Are you sure it is legally yours and you were not conned ukauziwa uwanja wa ndege? I hope people now know how to follow procedure when acquiring land. Msema kweli is the title deed: I have for all the pieces. If they touched mine I would take the to Mutunga, for his (h)earing *sic* !!! Lietmach be cautious though. Govt is known to have its way all the time. I know some owners of land along Kiambu road. They were compensated by force to pave way for the bypass. Can you imagine them touching those blocks of flats e.g. the Wet-Angula ones at 360 digirii?? Isnt it then better to build the new runway at Konza?!! I also believe compensation at commercial rates is ok... usually padded for rent-seekers
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/21/2010 Posts: 249 Location: nairobi
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jamplu wrote:15,000 acres?? that's more than the size of syokimau!! a third and 4th runway when the current one is not 100% utilized?? then if you calculate that amount and what people have invested there... its like 800K per acre na nyumba bado haujalipwa funny!! ...Building a forth runway is not realistic, its just wishful thought, or call it vision 2130. http://www.theafricanavi...n-of-nairobi-jkias.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23337754
if u read those articals, u will find that Heathrow Airport being the largest in Europe is only panning to do a third runway, while JKIA are struggling to do a second runway of 5,500metres. currently there is only 1 runway., 4,117metres long. Thats why incase of the usual blackout or repairs, diversions are made to either moi airport or kilimanjaro... ..desire to succeed is always fighting with fear of failure..
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/3/2010 Posts: 1,797 Location: Kenya
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maina20 wrote:jamplu wrote:15,000 acres?? that's more than the size of syokimau!! a third and 4th runway when the current one is not 100% utilized?? then if you calculate that amount and what people have invested there... its like 800K per acre na nyumba bado haujalipwa funny!! ...Building a forth runway is not realistic, its just wishful thought, or call it vision 2130. http://www.theafricanavi...n-of-nairobi-jkias.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23337754
if u read those articals, u will find that Heathrow Airport being the largest in Europe is only panning to do a third runway, while JKIA are struggling to do a second runway of 5,500metres. currently there is only 1 runway., 4,117metres long. Thats why incase of the usual blackout or repairs, diversions are made to either moi airport or kilimanjaro... the 4th runway is not being built tommorrow but there is need to acquire adequate land for future expansion while its still cheap and relatively uninhabited to avoid heathrow madness years down look what has happened to wilson I may be wrong..but then I could be right
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 3/25/2010 Posts: 939 Location: Nai
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digitek1 wrote:maina20 wrote:jamplu wrote:15,000 acres?? that's more than the size of syokimau!! a third and 4th runway when the current one is not 100% utilized?? then if you calculate that amount and what people have invested there... its like 800K per acre na nyumba bado haujalipwa funny!! ...Building a forth runway is not realistic, its just wishful thought, or call it vision 2130. http://www.theafricanavi...n-of-nairobi-jkias.html
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-23337754
if u read those articals, u will find that Heathrow Airport being the largest in Europe is only panning to do a third runway, while JKIA are struggling to do a second runway of 5,500metres. currently there is only 1 runway., 4,117metres long. Thats why incase of the usual blackout or repairs, diversions are made to either moi airport or kilimanjaro... the 4th runway is not being built tommorrow but there is need to acquire adequate land for future expansion while its still cheap and relatively uninhabited to avoid heathrow madness years down look what has happened to wilson Is it really that cheap? compensating everyone in syokimau? valuers mnaeza saidia. We must be very "good planners" to think of 4th runway a look at some of the busiest airports in the world and the number of runways they have, the kind of traffic they accommodate and the total acreage they've been built suggests otherwise. O'hare in Chicago is a good case study for KAA to visit and see how well they can effectively utilize their extra idle 3,937 Acres they bought from Syokimau in 1982.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/1/2009 Posts: 2,436
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Nation Pg 32 - Clarification made confirming KAA is looking for the 15k acres in KONZA, not Syokimau.
Looking at the distances involved -Is that realistic - will this still be part of JKIA?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Intelligentsia wrote:Nation Pg 32 - Clarification made confirming KAA is looking for the 15k acres in KONZA, not Syokimau.
Looking at the distances involved -Is that realistic - will this still be part of JKIA? Another wilson maybe.. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 10/17/2012 Posts: 26 Location: Nairobi
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murchr wrote:Intelligentsia wrote:Nation Pg 32 - Clarification made confirming KAA is looking for the 15k acres in KONZA, not Syokimau.
Looking at the distances involved -Is that realistic - will this still be part of JKIA? Another wilson maybe.. The Konza idea is perfect. with a lot of wishful thinking because at some point, the growing Nairobi population and Kenya's role as an economic and strategic power hub will mean increased traffic - which can be served by two independent airports. Much later though, like at the maturity of V2030...
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