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MaichBlack
#1 Posted : Saturday, May 25, 2013 7:20:05 PM
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The fines by The Capital Markets Authority are ridiculous to say the least!!!

Fines are supposed to be punitive enough to discourage wrong doing. How do you fine a company Kshs. 50,000/= for REFUSING to issue a profit warning???

Absolutely no words!!! This is a BIG joke!!

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Penny-Stocker
#2 Posted : Saturday, May 25, 2013 7:36:08 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
The fines by The Capital Markets Authority are ridiculous to say the least!!!

Fines are supposed to be punitive enough to discourage wrong doing. How do you fine a company Kshs. 50,000/= for REFUSING to issue a profit warning???

Absolutely no words!!! This is a BIG joke!!

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I saw that and I was like, REALLY?d'oh! 50k....that's pocket change!
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maka
#3 Posted : Saturday, May 25, 2013 7:50:41 PM
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MaichBlack wrote:
The fines by The Capital Markets Authority are ridiculous to say the least!!!

Fines are supposed to be punitive enough to discourage wrong doing. How do you fine a company Kshs. 50,000/= for REFUSING to issue a profit warning???

Absolutely no words!!! This is a BIG joke!!

Link Here!

I have said it before the CMA should pull up their socks its for the good of the investing public and shores up market confidence...they dont take things seriously,50k is nothing and you can bet your life that it was done on purpose...I have seen a couple of posts here where peeps are complaining about dividend cheques payment...best practice dictates that 6 weeks after the announcement of div payout an investor should receive the money...hapa its another story.
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Mukiri
#4 Posted : Saturday, May 25, 2013 8:21:53 PM
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Is it the same fellas who went to the press that Kengen was going to have a rights issue? Someone needs to take them to court!

Proverbs 19:21
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obiero
#5 Posted : Saturday, May 25, 2013 10:37:24 PM
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what is shocking here? this is Kenya..

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Penny-Stocker
#6 Posted : Saturday, May 25, 2013 10:49:40 PM
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obiero wrote:
what is shocking here? this is Kenya..

pare omera Obiero! This should be investigated...but once again, mtado?
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mwekez@ji
#7 Posted : Saturday, May 25, 2013 11:39:14 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
Is it the same fellas who went to the press that Kengen was going to have a rights issue? Someone needs to take them to court!



Its also the same fellas who went ahead to appoint James Mworia as a member of CMA Corporate Governance Committee after he had blatantly abused the CMA rules #Impunity_at_its_best
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#8 Posted : Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:21:37 AM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Is it the same fellas who went to the press that Kengen was going to have a rights issue? Someone needs to take them to court!



Its also the same fellas who went ahead to appoint James Mworia as a member of CMA Corporate Governance Committee after he had blatantly abused the CMA rules #Impunity_at_its_best

And Centum also won a governance awardLaughing out loudly
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mwekez@ji
#9 Posted : Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:34:48 AM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
Is it the same fellas who went to the press that Kengen was going to have a rights issue? Someone needs to take them to court!



Its also the same fellas who went ahead to appoint James Mworia as a member of CMA Corporate Governance Committee after he had blatantly abused the CMA rules #Impunity_at_its_best

And Centum also won a governance awardLaughing out loudly
#YouCan'tMakeThisStuffUp


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guru267
#10 Posted : Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:36:59 AM
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The same fools who are finding it difficult to enforce the 75% foreign ownership rule! Shame on you
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Deuteronomy 4:16
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VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:41:07 AM
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Why should SHAREHOLDERS [not the Board or Directors or Management] of Centum suffer for a mistake by the Board/Directors/Management? Why should a shareholder, with no voice, suffer for something s/he has no control over?
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Penny-Stocker
#12 Posted : Sunday, May 26, 2013 12:41:55 AM
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Its also the same fellas who went ahead to appoint James Mworia as a member of CMA Corporate Governance Committee after he had blatantly abused the CMA rules #Impunity_at_its_best[/quote]
And Centum also won a governance awardLaughing out loudly
#YouCan'tMakeThisStuffUp
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MaichBlack
#13 Posted : Sunday, May 26, 2013 8:26:38 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Why should SHAREHOLDERS [not the Board or Directors or Management] of Centum suffer for a mistake by the Board/Directors/Management? Why should a shareholder, with no voice, suffer for something s/he has no control over?

Very good point @vvs. Actually CMA's reasoning has bothered me for some time.

When the board/management refuses to announce a profit warning they actually deny investors a chance to make informed decisions. When C.M.A. fines the COMPANY they are actually making the same investor pay for being denied the information! Ridiculous!!! The board and senior management should be held PERSONALLY responsible. They should be fined and most importantly BANNED from holding any position in a publicly listed company for a period of time - two years minimum! Now that's a language they would understand.
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Ilikeyou
#14 Posted : Sunday, May 26, 2013 4:06:51 PM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
Why should SHAREHOLDERS [not the Board or Directors or Management] of Centum suffer for a mistake by the Board/Directors/Management? Why should a shareholder, with no voice, suffer for something s/he has no control over?


I attended AGM last Year at Two Rivers ground & James Mworia indicated that though they were fined 50k by CMA the money was paid by directors and not from company funds.
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