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NBK quarter one 2013 profit before tax up slim 3pc
hisah
#1 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 10:43:37 AM
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NBK Q1 2013 results are out. Nothing amazing to write about. Same NPL spike noticed. QoQ NPL spike is an eye popping triple percentage.

At this rate I wonder how banks are going to dig out of this NPL slippery road. If the trend keeps up in H1 results, iko shida...

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#2 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 11:19:13 AM
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hisah wrote:
NBK Q1 2013 results are out. Nothing amazing to write about. Same NPL spike noticed. QoQ NPL spike is an eye popping triple percentage.

At this rate I wonder how banks are going to dig out of this NPL slippery road. If the trend keeps up in H1 results, iko shida...

https://www.nse.co.ke/li...&utm_medium=twitter


Rising profitability amidst rising NPLs is great.. Imagine the kind of profits banks will announce when these come down with interest rates! smile
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hisah
#3 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 11:31:20 AM
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guru267 wrote:
hisah wrote:
NBK Q1 2013 results are out. Nothing amazing to write about. Same NPL spike noticed. QoQ NPL spike is an eye popping triple percentage.

At this rate I wonder how banks are going to dig out of this NPL slippery road. If the trend keeps up in H1 results, iko shida...

https://www.nse.co.ke/li...&utm_medium=twitter


Rising profitability amidst rising NPLs is great.. Imagine the kind of profits banks will announce when these come down with interest rates! smile

As long as profits clock in, all will be well. Losses and it's a whole different ball game...

Btw profits up with NPL up is also spotted in chingland -

http://www.ibtimes.com/c...fitability-2012-1157293


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mwekez@ji
#4 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 12:40:07 PM
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Deleted ... Wazua admin has put it suitably
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#5 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 12:43:52 PM
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Dear @mwekez@ji

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#6 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 12:48:43 PM
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Dear @mwekez@ji

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#7 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 12:59:47 PM
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NBK Q1 2013 performance is a poor show

1. While other banks have recorded double digit growth in Net Interest Income, NBK has recorded a decline (-4.12% y/y)

2. While other banks have recorded double digit growth in Profit Before Tax, NBK has recorded a marginal increase (+3.26% y/y)

3. We have severally pointed that the Government Securities Held To Maturity (HTM) are too high and loans are too low and NBK has just made the situation worse by increase the HTM and reducing loans.

4. The gross NPL spike of triple digit (+168.37%) is worrisome and the double digit gross NPL/Loans ratio (12%) is even more worrisome. Note other bank have single digit gross NPL/Loans ratio.

5. The core capital/total deposit ratio is really constrained and there is need to boost the core capital for this bank to accommodate increase in deposits. … They are calling a rights issue for this, and then invest in HTM, what kind of strategy is this!!! ... Or its the result of being strategyless¿!¿
Cde Monomotapa
#8 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 1:04:15 PM
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Something interesting on the cashflow statement.
mwekez@ji
#9 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 1:07:46 PM
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... that cost to income ratio is not interesting
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#10 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 1:15:09 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Something interesting on the cashflow statement.


That a result of the increase in deposits. Too bad this management does not know how to utilize them
muganda
#11 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 1:22:59 PM
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Well said mwekeza@ji. I had some anticipation when I saw Mr. Ahmed Munir appointed as MD, on the heels of Mr. Mohammed Hassan's earlier appointment as chair of the board. They have a deserved reputation for performance!

But NBK has reminded me instead of Warren Buffett's quip - Turnarounds seldom turn.

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#12 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 1:31:10 PM
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Is it that other banks are 'cooking' their results, or there is a big problem at NBK?

I had thought the KANU era bad loans had been struck off the books, or what is eating this bank?
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#13 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 1:59:15 PM
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muganda wrote:
Well said mwekeza@ji. I had some anticipation when I saw Mr. Ahmed Munir appointed as MD, on the heels of Mr. Mohammed Hassan's earlier appointment as chair of the board. They have a deserved reputation for performance!

But NBK has reminded me instead of Warren Buffett's quip - Turnarounds seldom turn.


the deal
#14 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 2:24:23 PM
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The declining lending rates & yields in the money markets compressed their NIM...but things should improve going forward if only those NPL's will not come & haunt them...I'm expecting huge impairement charges in the P&L across the banking sector going forward....I think thats whats tempering optimism towards banks despite stellar Q1 earnings.
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#15 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 2:32:16 PM
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dunkang wrote:
Is it that other banks are 'cooking' their results, or there is a big problem at NBK?

I had thought the KANU era bad loans had been struck off the books, or what is eating this bank?


By and large, other banks are okay ... hati yangu ... iko shida nbk inayohitaji suluhisho ya dharura
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#16 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 2:46:33 PM
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Most banks have recorded an Increase in NPL with some having some huge exposures.....eg Equity bank...NBK has tried, especially when you look at NPL they are all covered, no exposures....The bank has no debt...Other banks have had to borrow huge amount to shore up liquidity....IMHO This bank is destined for greatness If it were not for the upcoming right Issue, where I think the prices might fall drastically,I would buy this stock today.
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Cde Monomotapa
#17 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 6:30:01 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Something interesting on the cashflow statement.


That a result of the increase in deposits. Too bad this management does not know how to utilize them

I find that interesting that a bank would consider customer deposits in the cashflow statement making me presume it is probably a bond sale?
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#18 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 8:14:25 AM
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selah wrote:
Most banks have recorded an Increase in NPL with some having some huge exposures.....eg Equity bank...NBK has tried, especially when you look at NPL they are all covered, no exposures....The bank has no debt...Other banks have had to borrow huge amount to shore up liquidity....IMHO This bank is destined for greatness If it were not for the upcoming right Issue, where I think the prices might fall drastically,I would buy this stock today.


@selah, well put. from where i sit its a transforming entity and save for the rights issue which will definately supress the price it remains a buy. The reduction in loans is a strategic move meant to reduce NBKs reliance on the personal unsecured loans which constitute about 70% of its loan bk. The increase in HTM is too minimal and could be explained outstanding government debts which are always converted to HTM debt atleast for NBK. there is talk of rebrading which is set for this week and i bet Munir will take the opportunity to outline his strategy.
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#19 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:54:21 AM
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The bank's not doing well at the moment.
But id classify this as
"u cant buy whats popular and succeed".
I think once the rights issue is done and dusted, this company is already down, the only way now can be up(or out)
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
mwekez@ji
#20 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 11:36:08 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
mwekez@ji wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
Something interesting on the cashflow statement.


That a result of the increase in deposits. Too bad this management does not know how to utilize them

I find that interesting that a bank would consider customer deposits in the cashflow statement making me presume it is probably a bond sale?


comrade cde, banks main operation is financial intermediation hence the increase in customer deposits was reflected as so in the cashflow statement. In addition, check the Balance Sheet and note the increase in customer deposits and net purchase of bonds (not bond sale). ... So far, Munir has displayed signs of running without a strategy. I wait to see his long overdue strategic plan during the coming rebranding
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