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JNP Properties & Jopa Villas Hses- Is this a con
bonnyboy
#1 Posted : Friday, June 27, 2008 5:15:00 PM
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One John Njoroge Paul of JNP properties sold an idea 2 yrs ago about this development of residential houses along mombasa road - Jopa Villas and took 10% deposits from humble kenyans (See www.jopavillas.com). Now 2 yrs down the road the company does not answer nor return calls or mail,there website is on and off (and when it's on there are no more updates) . Is this a con by the guy who is reputed to even own a plane in Texas? Where the heck are this JNP people and will they ever deliver (complete) these houses? I am calling on other members who invested in this scheme to join me in DEMANDING answers or our money back. In unity we can! Class action lawsuit!!??? You can reach me at wasike_joseph at yahoo dot com
KURUTU
#2 Posted : Saturday, June 28, 2008 10:32:00 AM
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the project surely seems like a con since the communication from the guy has been limited and far apart without much substance. the project was to start in 2004 (mtoto mwenye alizaliwa mwaka huo yuaenda shule!) When I last inquired this is three weeks ago,I was informed that he was negotiating a loan with Stanbic bank (can anyone confirm this?) who are to buy off his loan from OPIC and fund the project to completion. its not clear if this deal went through and what the next action from him is. The guy in the office seems not to have too much info on the revised project plan (if any) or JP's plans to be in country. You can reach him on this number 0722274112 the name is yatich. I personally have deciced that i don't want to wait anymore and am following up on my refund which i am told will be given less 8000/= which are admin costs. If this is not forthcoming then perhaps a legal suit will follow! I hope this helps!
Marshalling Yard
#3 Posted : Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:51:00 PM
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wen buying property always be wise. Process is lengthy & intricate. Were you buying off plan or wat was the arrangement?

I live one day at a time,without counting yesterday
Marshalling Yard
#4 Posted : Saturday, June 28, 2008 3:54:00 PM
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My understanding is that there arose a dispute over land ownership. This is not gospel truth someone needs to verify same. Good luck to you guys who pd deposits

I live one day at a time,without counting yesterday
bonnyboy
#5 Posted : Saturday, June 28, 2008 8:19:00 PM
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Th guy has another office in Texas. As of last week the voicemail is full and cannot take anymore messages. The guy has stoped communication with his customers. i guess he will have to sell his so called plane and settle with us.. think about it if he put all the deposit money into a fixed deposit account he is laughing all the way to the bank from interest income.

To answer some more questions: The houses were being sold off plan. Construction commenced but did not go on for long,with the houses in various stages of completion.

I see lawsuit as the way out..this smells like a con any day...
globeinterface
#6 Posted : Monday, June 30, 2008 3:36:00 PM
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In my opinion,JNP run out of excuses. This has turned out to be a like a bad wedding. During the first months of the project investors were invited to the site and treated like royalty as they sat under white tents to shield them from the sun. The website was updated regularly with pictures and emails signed by JNP himself. After a bunch of excuses starting from OPIC not releasing the fundst o the slow process it takes to get clearance to build,the project was underway but stalled after a few months and another email followed saying that the first phase was almost complete. People who visited the site saw a few houses all partially done. Families put their lifetime savings trusting that these project would be completed within the standard time it takes others of such size and style to complete but JNP and his people have failed the investors. The last time we saw JNP,was on the list of aspiring MP's in December.

We demand answers in writing to explain why we have not heard or seen any updates in the project and how we can claim our deposit.

Chance favors the prepared mind.
bonnyboy
#7 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2008 7:34:00 AM
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I sent JNP properties a registerd mail and it was returned by the post office because 'No one claimed it'. So these boys have gone underground or what?!. Anybody have their Nairobi office address or JNP's phone number......let us know...
JkMwatha
#8 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2008 10:33:00 AM
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... and there goes my deposit....

JK
jitetee
#9 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2008 1:50:00 PM
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Ati 2 years? This thing started around 2004-2005. I paid 1% (28k for the 3 b/room) with the agreement that I will pay the remaining 9% deposit once the hses were ready. My bank was do the 90% the rest via a mortgage. This was before they started threatening the guys who had paid 1% to top up to 10% because OPIC had refused to release additional funds until they saw 'committment'. Thank God I didn't.

What I could never figure is why it took years to complete just one show-house. Even with only 1% deposit from each applicant,you would only need 55 such deposits to complete a 3-broom hse including fittings. Yet the development boasts about 500 hses. The dude is a C.O.N.


Time and chance happen to all.
Blackberry
#10 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2008 3:00:00 PM
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I live close by and observe some work going albeit but Toooo slooooowly. I have wondered why the haos have taken this long coz I imagine there must have been deposits. lots!

Opinion is free, truth is sacred.




pm
#11 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2008 4:21:00 PM
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I had followed JNP properties and even talked with John Paul himself in view of riding his coattails and build even a small community next to his.

I went to Texas,and later found JP in California,I also went to Kenya to look at his land,which to my surprise was undeveloped land full of brush and occasional small acacia trees and a railway line quarter of a mile in the back,and all open space. This was in 2006,and I knew all JNP houses were sold out in a matter of a few weeks,mostly to Diaspora folks.

First,I was no longer impressed with the project and thought I could do better elsewhere,for which the current data /development bears this out. I thought it was a bad choice and I still do. A project of that magnitude does not make sense in that kind of a location.

I therefore started looking at the man JP and the project itself. JP is a self made man who also can easily self-destruct. Secondly,JP was just a front for a number of OPIC investors and the 6-9 million were actually contributed/promised by a number of American investors to develop housing in Kenya.

I also understand there are a number of infrastructural developments that needs to be done on the land and there are many issues outstanding between Jopa Villas and city in order to move ahead,I also hear JP has proven hard headed on some outstanding issues ranging from the land being public land and so forth ...

To those that bought the houses: unless this project is a resounding success,I doubt it will ever be what was visualized. I would strongly urge you to get your money and move on.




NSE ndume
GaidiBurre
#12 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2008 7:44:00 PM
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This dude is acon. Started a CNA school and couldnt afford to pay his staff. His debts is more than his assets so be careful guys.

We used to hear alot about him and I attended one of his talks...Wealth only to realize that he is broke.
doh
#13 Posted : Monday, July 07, 2008 9:21:00 PM
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Where are these villas in mulolongo for SK to avoid being conned.

info is money
pesadodo
#14 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:05:00 AM
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Guys,

Here is the original story.

http://www.nationmedia.c...s/BizSunday02042006.pdf

Maybe Washington Akumu (Author of the above piece) would like to write a follow-up story.

Also,anyone tried to reach the OPIC folks? Sounds like they are an arm of the US gova..

Its too late to be like Warren,but there is always the next life :)
bonnyboy
#15 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2008 4:16:00 AM
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Like I said good people JNP properties does not respond to calls nor mail,Infact a letter mailed to their texas office was returned because it was NOT CLAIMED. Therefore there is no office. This is what we should all do

1) Demand our money back in writting. cc OPIC

Overseas Private Investment Corporation
Information Officer,Office of External Affairs
1100 New York Avenue,NW
Washington,D.C. 20527

2) Call OPIC Anti-coruption hotline ( they will call you back even if you leave a message...beileve me this is the US gov)

OPIC Anti-Corruption HOTLINE
Call the HOTLINE to receive guidance on anti-corruption practices and to report allegations of corruption and fraud in connection with OPIC supported projects.

Anti-Corruption HOTLINE: (202)-312-2153

3) US Small claims court to recover my deposit....in 2 weeks...

If we all call and write to OPIC something has got to give...

OPIC website...

http://www.opic.gov/about/contact/index.asp
pesadodo
#16 Posted : Tuesday, July 08, 2008 5:16:00 AM
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And here are the newsletters from the OPIC website indicating that they did give JP properties a $7.1 million dollar small biz loans to help with the project...

http://www.opic.gov/news...uments/OPICNews0608.pdf
http://www.opic.gov/news...uments/OPICNews0803.pdf



Its too late to be like Warren,but there is always the next life :)
globeinterface
#17 Posted : Monday, July 14, 2008 2:01:00 PM
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This is part of the reason most of us are afraid of doing any business in digz. Customer service is a word of the past. For a project of such a magnitude,John Paul should at least let people know of any genuine hiccups in the project and give people a timeline.

Has anyone spoken to the Kenyan office to here where they are with the project.




Chance favors the prepared mind.
mwana
#18 Posted : Monday, July 14, 2008 5:20:00 PM
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Guys,

I was told this guy ran for bunge in 2007 in Limuru. I did some research and this is what I found. You guys should verify if this is accurate.

From Nation website (read the whole story)

http://politics.nationme...er.asp?fs=1&sid=405

From ECK website he got 1,115 votes in Limuru on a New Ford Kenya ticket. Here is the link:

http://www.eck.or.ke/ele...%20%20by%20constituency(2007).pdf

If this is the same person,I must say this is quite astonishing that he is running for bunge yet the houses are not complete.
KARTOON
#19 Posted : Thursday, July 17, 2008 2:57:00 PM
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bonnyboy,

kindly let me have your email
bonnyboy
#20 Posted : Monday, July 21, 2008 4:12:00 PM
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@Katoon:

You can reach me at this email address wasike_joseph@yahoo.com

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