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Kaigangio
#1 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 9:56:54 AM
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Hi all.

I intend to venture into apiculture or the beekeeping partly as commercial venture and partly a hobby. I have never been a beekeeper before but i know a little about those beautiful little honey manufacturing insects...

I have scouted around for information about the beehives and i came to conclude that there are three main configurations under use in kenya namely, the top bar, the langstroth and the traditional beehives. The traditional log and top bar beehives have been around for a very long time while the langstroth is relatively new in kenya...

A close look at the beehives and after further search of advice yielded the following results:

...the traditional log beehive is the cheapest to make as it is not complicated in its design and the materials are readily available. Although it is the cheapest, it is the worst bee hive, the main reasons being that it is very difficult to manage the bees because of the access limitation and difficult to harvest. Also, during the honey harvesting, you kill a large population of the bees (this is not desirable to a beekeeper). Traditional log bee hive has very poor honey yields in a given year and the quality of honey extracted is very low.

...the top bar beehive is the most widely used. It is cheap to construct, easy to manage and the honey yields are higher than the traditional bee hive. They are also easier to harvest. The main draw back is that the combs made by the bees are unsupported and easily breaks. Also bees here build a lot of wax and as such there is a lot of wax in the honey crop harvested, but the honey is of good quality.

...the langstroth beehive has not gained any much ground in kenya due to its complexity in construction and requires very experienced beekeepers. The biggest problem is the honey super frames whose foundation is not locally available, but with everything available, it is the easiest to manage, the size can be varied by adding the honey supers as the bee population increases . It has the highest honey yields and the honey is of high quality. The bee colony is also very easy to manipulate depending on the beekeepers intentions.

Having done that i settled for the top bar hive which is good for a beginner like me. I will not mind having a colony of anywhere between 2k to 5k bees for a start which i think is good enough.

My worry is if i go traditional method of getting a colony of bees for my hive it may take weeks or months before a swarm appears to colonize the hive, unless of course i go out there and start looking for a swarm to catch. Swarms are not a common scene nowadays.

Do we have honeybees breeders here who can sell a starter bee colony with a queen?

Over to you beekeepers in wazua. Please share your ideas and experiences.

...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
StatMeister
#2 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 10:48:43 AM
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You must look for stingless bees or you will have to gas them every few months. Zitakupeleka hague for violation of bee rights
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Jamani
#3 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 11:08:42 AM
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StatMeister wrote:
You must look for stingless bees or you will have to gas them every few months. Zitakupeleka hague for violation of bee rights

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I actually thought the same, though venture is noble one has to ensure safety otherwise you will run into trouble with your neighbours.
Wendz
#4 Posted : Monday, September 24, 2012 11:56:59 AM
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With Top Bar hive, you hardly kill the bees.... You just smoke them away and harvest the honey. No easy job however. You could talk to the African Beekeepers Ltd or Apiconsults and see what info you can get. There is also Prof Kigatira... he's a prof in Africa Nazarene. You can call ANU and ask for his contacts and move on from there. Nice guy with loads of wisdom on beekeeping.
Kaigangio
#5 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:35:59 AM
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StatMeister wrote:
You must look for stingless bees or you will have to gas them every few months. Zitakupeleka hague for violation of bee rights


you see a bee keeper wanna be can only make a choice when there is a variety on display. i have never heard of any bee breeders in kenya where one can go and choose which species of bees one would love to keep. So one would have to do the kienyenji (traditional) method...position the beehive and wait...cannot imagine going to a colony or a swarm and start grabbing those bees one by one and flipping their underside to check if it has the sting or not (very risky business).smile

And hey, i hear there are about 20k bee species of which about 5 are common in kenya...I understand that all african bees are pretty aggressive especially when disturbed or provoked. The apiary location will be undisturbed only during the inspection times.
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Kaigangio
#6 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 7:46:05 AM
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Jamani wrote:
StatMeister wrote:
You must look for stingless bees or you will have to gas them every few months. Zitakupeleka hague for violation of bee rights

Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
I actually thought the same, though venture is noble one has to ensure safety otherwise you will run into trouble with your neighbours.


I gather that under controlled conditions the bees are gentle and like i said the beehive will not be disturbed. Also, there is a lot of vegetation within and the flight path of the bees is relatively higher than the normal human height..so no worries.
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
Kaigangio
#7 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 8:10:05 AM
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Wendz wrote:
With Top Bar hive, you hardly kill the bees.... You just smoke them away and harvest the honey. No easy job however. You could talk to the African Beekeepers Ltd or Apiconsults and see what info you can get. There is also Prof Kigatira... he's a prof in Africa Nazarene. You can call ANU and ask for his contacts and move on from there. Nice guy with loads of wisdom on beekeeping.


Thanks wendz for the information. I will contact them guys and see what they have to offer.

you see the top bar beehive has a comb problem...the constructed comb is not properly oriented or directed since there is no flames or foundation to guide it. Therefore when the bees construct the comb it tends to fill up really fast causing a constraint in space between the combs. This causes overcrowding in the hive and may lead to really poor ventilation.

I bet smoking them out in a poorly ventilated space or environment will cause some for bees fatalities which is inevitable anyway.

If there is a prolonged delay in harvesting the bees will swarm.Sad

By the way have you tried keeping them?
...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
mukiha
#8 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 9:35:08 AM
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I have always imagined that this can be a lucrative business... after all, bees fend for themselves and also secure themselves...

The market price of honey is about sh500 per kg. Thus one needs about 2,000kg to make a million bob.

The question then is; how many bees [and hives] does one need to produce 2,000kg of honey per year?
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Seles83
#9 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:41:17 AM
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mukiha wrote:
I have always imagined that this can be a lucrative business... after all, bees fend for themselves and also secure themselves...

The market price of honey is about sh500 per kg. Thus one needs about 2,000kg to make a million bob.

The question then is; how many bees [and hives] does one need to produce 2,000kg of honey per year?



Try this website may be they can help out..

http://www.africanbeekee...og&id=1&Itemid=2
More monies, more problems...
Kaigangio
#10 Posted : Tuesday, September 25, 2012 10:51:24 AM
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mukiha wrote:
I have always imagined that this can be a lucrative business... after all, bees fend for themselves and also secure themselves...

The market price of honey is about sh500 per kg. Thus one needs about 2,000kg to make a million bob.

The question then is; how many bees [and hives] does one need to produce 2,000kg of honey per year?


from the latest statistics on the data that i have collected each beehive can yieled about 15kg of pure honey for every harvest if there is enough forage. in a given year, you make three harvests making a total of 45kgs...

you will therefore need about 50 beehives to make your million bob...so far so good.

the trouble is the unpredictable weather. when the dry spell extends, there is a drastic reduction in forage which makes the nectar scarce and honey harvest poor...

one more thing, hungry bees are constantly swarming and you may end up with empty hives. so one may consider feeding the bees literally to retain them...


...besides, the presence of a safe alone does not signify that there is money inside...
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