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mlennyma
#1 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:50:01 AM
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Up 21% to 5.01b with interest income almost doubling from 7.8b to 13b
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mlennyma
#2 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2012 10:54:17 AM
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http://af.reuters.com/ar...ws/idAFL6E8J92J420120809
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StatMeister
#3 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:06:39 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
Up 21% to 5.01b with interest income almost doubling from 7.8b to 13b


Profits are up 21%, EPS up 1%, sounds like very many shares added after June 2011. 1 for 5 bonus perhaps . . .
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heri
#4 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:39:35 AM
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how much did CIC contribute and what is the likely impact on CIC shares
Ericsson
#5 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:42:47 AM
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Share of associate profit is ksh.110 million which means CIC profit half year profit is about 440million
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jerry
#6 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:45:36 AM
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StatMeister wrote:
mlennyma wrote:
Up 21% to 5.01b with interest income almost doubling from 7.8b to 13b


Profits are up 21%, EPS up 1%, sounds like very many shares added after June 2011. 1 for 5 bonus perhaps . . .

@StatMeister, Let's share the info on costs also since they can affect EPS but at least they achieved last yrs eps with additional shares.
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jerry
#7 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2012 11:49:19 AM
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Ericsson wrote:
Share of associate profit is ksh.110 million which means CIC profit half year profit is about 440million

How does this compare with last yr and impact on CIC share price? I was told it take a month! to immobilize these shares.
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StatMeister
#8 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2012 12:37:23 PM
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jerry wrote:
Ericsson wrote:
Share of associate profit is ksh.110 million which means CIC profit half year profit is about 440million

How does this compare with last yr and impact on CIC share price? I was told it take a month! to immobilize these shares.


Share of associate(s) relates to revaluation of associate or with dividend payment?
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King G
#9 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2012 1:20:49 PM
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Is there potential for growth for this bank or Roar and Dememba has eaten into their market fulltime
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Fyatu
#10 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2012 2:56:42 PM
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any prospects of this thing going back to the highs of kshs. 20.50 ???
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jerry
#11 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2012 3:36:56 PM
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Fyatu wrote:
any prospects of this thing going back to the highs of kshs. 20.50 ???

I own some shares but I can't see 20/= unless the whole market goes up.
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Ericsson
#12 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2012 4:03:17 PM
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@Fyatu;any prospects of this thing going back to the highs of kshs. 20.50--There are prospects of this stock going up to 20.50 when the market picks up i.e NSE Index at 4500-5000.
CIC now dropping as their half year profits can be predicted from Co-op bank share of associate profits
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hisah
#13 Posted : Thursday, August 09, 2012 4:07:02 PM
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jerry wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
any prospects of this thing going back to the highs of kshs. 20.50 ???

I own some shares but I can't see 20/= unless the whole market goes up.

Let us see what the cartoon says...



Coop is sitting on support zone (10 - 12). Wait and see is a better approach here as it looks bearish for now - momentum that is.

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Fyatu
#14 Posted : Friday, August 10, 2012 10:16:39 AM
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i guess i will be buying more before general elections....ION

http://investinginafrica...cas-100-largest-stocks/

CO-OP is actually a bluechipsmile
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hisah
#15 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2012 6:12:53 PM
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hisah wrote:
jerry wrote:
Fyatu wrote:
any prospects of this thing going back to the highs of kshs. 20.50 ???

I own some shares but I can't see 20/= unless the whole market goes up.

Let us see what the cartoon says...



Coop is sitting on support zone (10 - 12). Wait and see is a better approach here as it looks bearish for now - momentum that is.




After reading this report, this thing may sink a little further...

http://bit.ly/PsTApQ

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Fyatu
#16 Posted : Thursday, August 16, 2012 6:30:19 PM
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Thanks Hisah..this is timely
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King G
#17 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 12:57:46 PM
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I would welcome it at 10-11 ranges. Been in here for the long haul
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Jamani
#18 Posted : Friday, August 17, 2012 1:10:45 PM
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I read this somewhere

Balancing act
In our view, the near-term focus on Co-operative Bank of Kenya isn’t so much the expected earnings recovery in H2:12E, but the bank’s near-term strategy and its ability to balance a delicate act of asset growth, expansion and capital going forward.

48% FY12E net earnings upgrade on NII and CoR: The increase in the bank’s interest income has been one of the main themes in H1:12 and, in our view, it was evident from Q3:11. However, Co-operative Bank’s benefit from the lending rate increase lagged that of its peers. As a result of improved visibility, our numbers show a +48% increase in PAT.

Ksh1.84/share NPV of cost savings expected: We believe that the cKsh3.1bn one-off cost from current expansion, core banking and new branches is likely to come to an end; that is c24% of the bank’s current cost base. This translates into a Ksh0.39/share FY13E EPS gain or Ksh1.84/share valuation if we add an 11% discount rate and apply a multiple of 6x. This is c17% potential upside to our reference share price.

RWA growth capped at c17% on internal capital generation: If our earnings forecast up to FY14E proves correct, Co-operative Bank’s retained earnings or that which we use as proxy for free cash flows would cap RWA growth at a c17% on average for the next 3 years. This compares to the c36% average annual RWA growth of FY:08-FY:11. Our scenario also exposes a slow core capital ratio build-up of less than 60bps on average per year, despite material excess capital on a 12.5% floor. Using a more conservative 16% core CAR suggests that Co-operative Bank is potentially running out of capital, based on our analysis.

Ksh6-10bn fresh capital likely to strike the growth/solvency balance: We estimate that Co-operative Bank may require Ksh6.3-10.2bn for both risk growth and balance sheet strengthening in the absence of a strong parent company, with a dilution range on this basis of 23-38% on our estimates. This should enable the bank to grow RWA between 15%-30% p.a. and achieve a CAR of 18.5%-23%. The bigger question may be around the Co-operatives’ willingness to take up their rights or accept a level of dilution. We discuss the possible outcomes in this report.

Dilution trumps upside, new TP Ksh11, reiterate SELL: Unfortunately for Co-operative Bank, our new target price is doubly hit by including the bonus issue to our number of shares and by building in the anticipated c30% dilution from what we view as a hardly avoidable capital raise. We cut our target price to Ksh11 from Ksh13 previously. On this basis, the stock trades at a FY13E P/E of 7.9x and P/B of 1.85x, we see better value and upside in KCB (BUY, TP Ksh30).
King G
#19 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 2:03:01 PM
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Stll coming down pole pole, headed to 10.50 bob
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hisah
#20 Posted : Tuesday, August 21, 2012 3:25:00 PM
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Trading range today 10.15 - 11.10. Still pointing down. Been sliding down since last week of July.
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