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DEALFISH rebrands to OLX
madollar
#1 Posted : Friday, June 15, 2012 3:24:45 PM
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Why rebrand something thats already a household name,and the money they have invested in the brand

not a good business move.This will one day make a good case study in business schools just like
kencell>> celtel>> zain >> airtel>>....

http://techloy.com/2012/06/14/dealfish-rebrand-olx/
QW25091985
#2 Posted : Friday, June 15, 2012 3:25:57 PM
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olx means ?
madollar
#3 Posted : Friday, June 15, 2012 3:31:01 PM
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QW25091985 wrote:
olx means ?


"And in case you’re already wondering what OLX stands for, it is an acronym for ‘Online Exchange’, but has also been described as the ‘Oh Love Exchanging’ platform"

d'oh! d'oh! d'oh!
digitek1
#4 Posted : Friday, June 15, 2012 5:42:19 PM
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yet another SA firm about to bite the dust smile
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tonicasert
#5 Posted : Saturday, June 16, 2012 11:47:17 AM
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Was wondering about their change of look to olx's layout.
Otivo
#6 Posted : Wednesday, June 20, 2012 9:06:49 AM
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digitek1 wrote:
yet another SA firm about to bite the dust smile




I second you on this one... whether online or not, the market landscape and dynamics in SA are totally different here. d'oh!
madhaquer
#7 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:59:32 PM
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OLX is a global brand, not sure they have made dealsfish better even common searches functional earlier don't seem to be working now.

Mainat
#8 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:08:53 PM
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I was under the impression that Dealfish was mlies ahead of everybody else in terms online advertising... Did they have problems monetising the traffic? Moses Kemibaro not having much luck-maybe should have stuck with his own business
Sehemu ndio nyumba
tycho
#9 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 1:41:14 PM
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Things are moving too fast in this industry. Can one even make a five year plan?
madollar
#10 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 3:47:35 PM
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Mainat wrote:
I was under the impression that Dealfish was mlies ahead of everybody else in terms online advertising... Did they have problems monetising the traffic? Moses Kemibaro not having much luck-maybe should have stuck with his own business

he moved to INMOBI and became director of something but they are shutting their africa operations
poundfoolish
#11 Posted : Thursday, October 25, 2012 5:32:07 PM
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madollar wrote:
Mainat wrote:
I was under the impression that Dealfish was mlies ahead of everybody else in terms online advertising... Did they have problems monetising the traffic? Moses Kemibaro not having much luck-maybe should have stuck with his own business

he moved to INMOBI and became director of something but they are shutting their africa operations


Inmobi are winding up? eish..
They have a beautiful, smart Havard/Yale graduate lady of an MD...
madollar
#12 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2012 11:01:02 AM
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poundfoolish wrote:
madollar wrote:
Mainat wrote:
I was under the impression that Dealfish was mlies ahead of everybody else in terms online advertising... Did they have problems monetising the traffic? Moses Kemibaro not having much luck-maybe should have stuck with his own business

he moved to INMOBI and became director of something but they are shutting their africa operations


Inmobi are winding up? eish..
They have a beautiful, smart Havard/Yale graduate lady of an MD...


unbelievable inmobi is closing shop d'oh! d'oh!

the mobile phone could turn out to be the most overrated gadget this century no one knows how to monetise.
seem the only people making money are the handset manufactures and operators

http://memeburn.com/2012...retrenchments-to-follow/
KenyanLyrics
#13 Posted : Friday, October 26, 2012 10:13:59 PM
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The problem with both Dealfish and OLX was that they were startups trying to act like big corporates. Just because they were backed by some serious capital, they went all out with plush offices and high salaried staff.

But at the end of the day, despite all the capital, basic rules of finance still applied to them. Just as all startups take several years to stabilize, so did Dealfish and inmobi. But their high burn rate meant that they just couldn't afford to stay the course.
alma
#14 Posted : Saturday, October 27, 2012 6:40:34 AM
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If you lived through the days of the dot com failures in wall street, you learned a lot.

The basic story you should learn that internet business is exactly like opening a kiosk. You have to know where the money is coming from, from day 1. Companies that take their initial capital from so called venture capitalists are doomed to failure. That's about 90% of the Kenyan it companies. You can't start a business when you are already in debt and expect to make it.

I wrote somewhere else online that inmobi would die and that dealfish was only good for other well planned companies that would come up to take their space.

These two companies were good for Kenya. Now guys don't fear transacting online. That's the first barrier an internet business has to deal with.

So, lets celebrate guys like Kemibaro. They are the true Godfathers of Kenyan ecommerce.

You should now take advantage of the space they left.
Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
madollar
#15 Posted : Saturday, October 27, 2012 4:53:11 PM
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KenyanLyrics wrote:
The problem with both Dealfish and OLX was that they were startups trying to act like big corporates. Just because they were backed by some serious capital, they went all out with plush offices and high salaried staff.

But at the end of the day, despite all the capital, basic rules of finance still applied to them. Just as all startups take several years to stabilize, so did Dealfish and inmobi. But their high burn rate meant that they just couldn't afford to stay the course.


dealfish/olx had a good business plan infact that marketing strategy will go down in history as one of the best executed as within no time it was a household name.
their pricing strategy is where they got it all wrong that freemium model would never have worked in the long run. they should have capitalized on mpesa may be 1000 ksh per ad and would be making not less than a million per month

but as @alma said they offer vital lessons for future techprenuers
Mainat
#16 Posted : Saturday, October 27, 2012 8:35:55 PM
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@alma, any other IT techie, anybody else interested in recreating the dealfish functionality? Monetising is easy.
Sehemu ndio nyumba
KenyanLyrics
#17 Posted : Sunday, October 28, 2012 2:31:19 AM
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@madollar I beg to differ. Dealfish's marketing strategy was poorly executed, reason being that the force with which they entered the market was very inappropriate for the stage at which African internet is right now. The African online market is a developing one. You don't enter a developing market with such gusto when there is so much basic consumer education that needs to be done. Dealfish spent 100million KShs. on marketing alone across Kenya and Nigeria. That is hugely excessive for Africa's developing internet market.

The way to market an internet startup in Africa is organically. Right now, all the building blocks for big internet business are not yet in place, but we have a lot of people coming online for the first time, browsing around and learning how the net works. Now is the time for African internet companies to patiently position themselves for large future profits in the next five years or so.
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