Rank: Veteran Joined: 9/19/2011 Posts: 1,694
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Is the post with the heading "let's stop vomiting on our own toes please!" closed for comments? Anyway am saddened by the statement by Wazua admin as below Quote:Dear Members,
We welcome @YesuWangu's jibe but the big question remains:
Are we all mature enough to engage in the Politics forum? Perhaps it should be limited to users of particular standing.
The Wazua spirit You have advised for an end to bigotry earlier in that post yet i believe here you are doing the same when you say that politics should be limited to users of particular standing. Wikipedia defines a bigot as Quote:A bigot is a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices, especially one exhibiting intolerance, and animosity toward those of differing beliefs. The predominant usage in modern English refers to persons hostile to those of differing sex, race, ethnicity, religious belief or spirituality, political alignment, nationality, language, sexual orientation, and age; and to those from a different region, with non-normative gender identity, those who are homeless, and those with various medical disorders, particularly behavioural and addictive disorders. Forms of bigotry may have a related ideology or world views. Kindly clarify your position on this. Kratos “People will believe a big lie sooner than a little one, and if you repeat it frequently enough, people will sooner or later believe it.” ― Walter C. Langer
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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This wazua. A public forum is open to all manner of people. Responsibility lies on the Moderators or Administrators not the members because it's impossible to tame faceless characters online. People chew, regurgitate and spit without care. I thought if somebody crossed the line they are banned or something so there's no need to get worked up since there are rules governing this place. If Administrators sleep, people go beserk. So if you want to enjoy,post without emotions attached to your post and go.Attack the post not the poster/his tribe/background. That shouldn't be hard but we still have a long way to go just like the rest of Africa. "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/27/2012 Posts: 851 Location: Nairobi
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It has been closed. For Wazua to come out and start whining how hard it is to moderate is a lame attempt to escape responsibility. Threads which advocate for hatred/disrespect/malice towards a section or sections of our Kenyan community/communities should be "frozen". Is it that hard to see/spot propagation of hatred Ms Wazua? There are several individuals trolling all over Wazua spewing bigotry. Just freeze any thread that degenerates into destructive dialogue. The political discussions are doing more harm than good. Crack the whip.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/31/2008 Posts: 1,076
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Blanket condemnation is not the solution to the problem. Granted some in our number had began to run amok - throwing caution to the wind. That isnt reason enough to penalise everybody else. Just because certain Drivers are flouting traffic rules you dont resort to closing the road. Find a way to isolate and deal with the wayward characters and others to discuss whatever matters they wish to. Dunia ni msongamano..
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/2/2009 Posts: 2,458 Location: Nairobi
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Dear Wazua.. if its not too hard to ask.. maybe you can have a 'thumbs up' +1 or -1' or 'report as abusive' gadget on posts, that way you could be alerted on 'useless threads'
there are serious contributors on the forum.. gentlemen busy at work and willing and ready to give their contributions here.. including PS's, investment firms (GhengisCapital 4architects, vvt,qs guka, Mukiha etc...)
but then there is also the other lot...the busybodies.. who work in cybers or something.. whose brain range runs from small to slightly below average.. whose core purpose and value is to dissect events and personalities and tribes and people..
you will never see them peeing/contributing to serious threads like stocks, corporate affairs, unless they are dissecting and individual there..
They give Wazua nation a bad name.
thanks
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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alma wrote:harrydre reminds me of those guys who come straight from high school in central to nairobi and never leave. Somehow that makes them believe that they are very well travelled and educated.
by the way its very rude to type using another colour in public forums. it shows emotional immaturity when you want to stand out among other people. Worse it shows lack of knowledge in basic etiquette in forums worldwide.
Probably brought about by the warped belief that live revolves around the kikuyus and "raira". Back to top @ Alma, am speaking of facts hard facts. you all saw it on TV and papers. and yes am well travelled, for your information am on my 4th passport booklet and every once in a while, I travel back to my village and invest there. western and Nyanza are very productive all year round and what do we get from there? when people burn industries and businesses during PEV, what do they expect? now what has even been spread to sports. very sick indeed.
i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Um Sayala wrote:@ Harrydre, tembea bro, get to know your country, take some Geography lessons and most importantly history of kenya from independence.
The mentality that you have about other tribes is disgusting.That we at the coast are lazy, Kambas eat dogs, Luos lazy, Kales bla bla. this must change. This country needs infrastructure in equal measure and will develop.
The way you up-loud when one writes that Central kenya produces more fish even than Indian Ocean is amazing. you have the "We-are-always-right" ATT. Think again. This country is skewed in devpmt not bcoz of the lazy ones but coz of other reasons have mentioned b4. I am well traveled and I repeat, if you have no respect for your neighbors properties and every time there is elections you destroy them, then don't expect anyone to come helping you in the future. Western and Nyanza are the most fertile land in Kenya but what is this nonsense we are hearing? I dare you to quote where I mentioned kambas this or luos or where I supported the comment on central produces more fish etc. stop putting words in my mouth. My argument was strictly to do with Kisumu industries.i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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It is very disappointing to note that Lady Admin has resulted to Guerilla tactic of freezing threads that Ki-Dictator is mentioned. Makosa Imefanyika? Why was 'Executive impunity has no place in a proper democracy' thread by @Wakanyuugi frozen? Makosa Inafanyika! Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/10/2008 Posts: 9,131 Location: Kanjo
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Wazua Admin wrote:Dear Members,
We welcome @YesuWangu's jibe but the big question remains:
Are we all mature enough to engage in the Politics forum? Perhaps it should be limited to users of particular standing.
The Wazua spirit Yes! and people are getting emotional. If people have facts let's have a healthy discussion. In the spirit of freedom, you need not lock out some threads.i.am.back!!!!
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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harrydre wrote:Wazua Admin wrote:Dear Members,
We welcome @YesuWangu's jibe but the big question remains:
Are we all mature enough to engage in the Politics forum? Perhaps it should be limited to users of particular standing.
The Wazua spirit Yes! and people are getting emotional. If people have facts let's have a healthy discussion. In the spirit of freedom, you need not lock out some threads. I'm yet to see you have a healthy discussion...try and look @Wendz post and learn
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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harrydre wrote:Western and Nyanza are the most fertile land in Kenya but what is this nonsense we are hearing? Is this part of the facts???? ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2011 Posts: 4,818 Location: -1.2107, 36.8831
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@Harrydre, & company, yenyu imekuwa matusi towards our brothers and sisters from the Lake Side. And on a lighter note, has Wazua administration turned out to be like those 'Opinion Polls' that don't call the media to report 'findings' when the going gets tough for Ki-dikteta! Where are this bogus pollsters for hire? wako wapi? Receive with simplicity everything that happens to you.” ― Rashi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/20/2007 Posts: 4,432
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My advice to Wazua admin is that they are doing a good job. But it is silly season so they have to stamp their authority to all and sundry. And I mean all. I find nothing wrong with saying that Raila is going to be a horrible president. In fact, those are the kind of issues we need to raise as Kenyans. Take every politician apart until we get the information we need to make decisions. On the issue of bigotry. The hammer should not be spared. Waiting until people complain is too late. If a post goes towards the level of tribe, sex, calling, it needs to be banned and the author too. Of course human discourse allows Magigi and co as we know the boy is lost and impunity coz....he's impunity. I have said that the Matsanga type babies are online to spread their brand of politics. Wazua is one of the kenyan forums targeted so be careful very very careful. I would love serious political intercourse with all and sundry. Where we call Kibaki a liar, Raila a liar, Kalonzo a liar, Uhuru a liar and all a liar. But the argument must be honest. Only then will the country grow. My hope is that wazua admin does not take this as a bad state of affairs and ban politics. But rather take it as a challenge. The challenge to move political discourse in this country to a level where I can call Mcreggae a fool for supporting Gor Mahia when Tusker creates white cap. The challenge is not to run from bigots and social media harlots. The challenge is to lead the conversation to where you dream wazua to be. You have achieved that in stocks. Maybe you can lead us in politics. Wazua spirit. Whatever that means. As for Harrydre, call me any time to talk politics. But first go get an ID coz I really doubt you are grown up enough to drink amongst ADULTS. Jose: If I make it through this thug life, I'll see you one day. The Lord is the only way to stop the hurt.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/15/2011 Posts: 4,518
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I strongly believe that those who have visited other African forums find this one very soft esp on politics.There's no attack here,infact am yet to come across one. Wazuans if asked are very accomodating,I guess its just the kenyan spirit. Having said that I think Democracy must prevail online and people should just let steam out regardless.Step on my toes and I step on yours without getting so low to using insults.That to me is maturity.If you dislike my tribe that's ur issue and it doesnt affect my personal life.Your's is no better either.None is. Disagree amicably and kiss. If one posts trash then he/she must be ready for bashing but don't lock till it gets really silly and derailed. The admin dont know how to attract traffic to their site if that is so.*my thoughts* Watu wapendane sio kupost like we have bipolar. Ok I love wazua. cheers "The true measure of a man is how he treats someone who can do him absolutely no good.
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Rank: User Joined: 5/3/2011 Posts: 559
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@Wazua If you free postings by bigots like Harrydre, and Kihangeri then I will be cool with you. @Harrydre is your passport posted in your I pad or not yet? just asking!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/31/2008 Posts: 7,081 Location: Kenya
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alma wrote:My advice to Wazua admin is that they are doing a good job. But it is silly season so they have to stamp their authority to all and sundry. And I mean all. I find nothing wrong with saying that Raila is going to be a horrible president. In fact, those are the kind of issues we need to raise as Kenyans. Take every politician apart until we get the information we need to make decisions. On the issue of bigotry. The hammer should not be spared. Waiting until people complain is too late. If a post goes towards the level of tribe, sex, calling, it needs to be banned and the author too. Of course human discourse allows Magigi and co as we know the boy is lost and impunity coz....he's impunity. I have said that the Matsanga type babies are online to spread their brand of politics. Wazua is one of the kenyan forums targeted so be careful very very careful. I would love serious political intercourse with all and sundry. Where we call Kibaki a liar, Raila a liar, Kalonzo a liar, Uhuru a liar and all a liar. But the argument must be honest. Only then will the country grow. My hope is that wazua admin does not take this as a bad state of affairs and ban politics. But rather take it as a challenge. The challenge to move political discourse in this country to a level where I can call Mcreggae a fool for supporting Gor Mahia when Tusker creates white cap. The challenge is not to run from bigots and social media harlots. The challenge is to lead the conversation to where you dream wazua to be. You have achieved that in stocks. Maybe you can lead us in politics. Wazua spirit. Whatever that means. As for Harrydre, call me any time to talk politics. But first go get an ID coz I really doubt you are grown up enough to drink amongst ADULTS. Asi...Ninathela!!!I am finished!!!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2012 Posts: 15,980
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Listen to this....we need to be very wise in making our choice http://www.youtube.com/w...s_s&feature=youtu.be"There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore .
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588
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alma wrote:My advice to Wazua admin is that they are doing a good job. But it is silly season so they have to stamp their authority to all and sundry. And I mean all. ............. I have said that the Matsanga type babies are online to spread their brand of politics. Wazua is one of the kenyan forums targeted so be careful very very careful.
............. As for Harrydre, call me any time to talk politics. But first go get an ID coz I really doubt you are grown up enough to drink amongst ADULTS. essyk wrote:I strongly believe that those who have visited other African forums find this one very soft esp on politics.
The day Wazua accomodates matsanga and his ilk, teenagers and so on and becomes like essyks preferred forums.....haki! Why should anyone be in Wazua then, if sites of equal standing exist?
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Rank: Chief Joined: 8/24/2009 Posts: 5,909 Location: Nairobi
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[quote=murchr]Listen to this....we need to be very wise in making our choice http://www.youtube.com/w..._s&feature=youtu.be[/quote] Damage control needed urgently!!!!
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Rank: Member Joined: 8/5/2009 Posts: 597
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Seams i have been away too long, just for asking is it the season of being usered??? Let me take cover lets i be found in that corner. The problem with the world is that the intelligent people are full of doubts while the stupid ones are full of confidence
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