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Pan Africa Insurance at sh 19
simonmaina71@gmail.com
#1 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 6:58:09 PM
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and a dividend yield of 7.50percent...a p/e of 1.60...am a value investor...but i seek ur opinions on whether to buy or let it pass.
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#2 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 7:05:34 PM
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I have a feeling the figures you quote might not be the same when a new set of results are announced...
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guru267
#3 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:35:43 PM
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NSE was down 30% in 2011.. By default pan africa will post a decline in profits or even a loss...

Im a buyer at 15 though¡
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#4 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:23:14 PM
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simonmaina71@gmail.com wrote:
and a dividend yield of 7.50percent...a p/e of 1.60...am a value investor...but i seek ur opinions on whether to buy or let it pass.


in a down market you want to buy ????
StatMeister
#5 Posted : Tuesday, January 17, 2012 10:40:18 PM
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guru267 wrote:
NSE was down 30% in 2011.. By default pan africa will post a decline in profits or even a loss...

Im a buyer at 15 though¡


@guru, why 15?

The 6-m results show EPS of 0.76

If their performance come to the same as 2009, that means 138m for (96m?) shares, that's and EPS of 1.4. You would be buying it at a P/E of 10.4.
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guru267
#6 Posted : Wednesday, January 18, 2012 4:57:15 AM
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StatMeister wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Im a buyer at 15 though¡


@guru, why 15?

The 6-m results show EPS of 0.76

If their performance come to the same as 2009, that means 138m for (96m?) shares, that's and EPS of 1.4. You would be buying it at a P/E of 10.4.



The stock is unlikely to fall below 15 because the market is aware the poor results are only temporary..
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S.Mutaga III
#7 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 4:28:02 PM
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Lets just say if you invested at 19...you would be laughing all the way to the bank today
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#8 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 4:57:39 PM
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S.Mutaga III wrote:
Lets just say if you invested at 19...you would be laughing all the way to the bank today

'majuto ni m'jukuu' loosely means regrets come much much after the action/inaction!
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
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#9 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 5:01:22 PM
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#10 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 9:21:19 PM
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The question now is, after book closure, do I sell?

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#11 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 10:34:18 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
The question now is, after book closure, do I sell?


Am in the same boat as you; decided to hold ln till they announce H1 which am hoping included some political risk covers, then sanlam shall payna premium to acquire the remaining shareholding they require. ?..but I remember an article sanlam management was quoted saying they shall be back in market post books closure.....think its a bd article in February
guru267
#12 Posted : Monday, May 20, 2013 10:36:24 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
The question now is, after book closure, do I sell?


If you really have to sell... Yes!!
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Mukiri
#13 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:26:49 AM
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guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
The question now is, after book closure, do I sell?


If you really have to sell... Yes!!

@Guru.. thanks. It's not that I have to, its 'Where are the maximum profits'. I have made something here, thanks to you... but are there better bargains elsewhere?

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mibbz
#14 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 2:41:10 PM
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Big order at 55 bob, sanlam checking into the market?!
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#15 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 3:15:45 PM
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Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
The question now is, after book closure, do I sell?


If you really have to sell... Yes!!

@Guru.. thanks. It's not that I have to, its 'Where are the maximum profits'. I have made something here, thanks to you... but are there better bargains elsewhere?

@Mukiri. I'm sure there are better, in your words, bargains elsewhere and you won't see them until you sell PanAfrica. My advice: SELL.
The opposite of courage is not cowardice, it's conformity.
guru267
#16 Posted : Tuesday, May 21, 2013 4:01:54 PM
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jerry wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
The question now is, after book closure, do I sell?


If you really have to sell... Yes!!

@Guru.. thanks. It's not that I have to, its 'Where are the maximum profits'. I have made something here, thanks to you... but are there better bargains elsewhere?

@Mukiri. I'm sure there are better, in your words, bargains elsewhere and you won't see them until you sell PanAfrica. My advice: SELL.


@jerry what are these other bargains??
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mwekez@ji
#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 22, 2013 10:39:33 AM
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guru267 wrote:
jerry wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
guru267 wrote:
Mukiri wrote:
The question now is, after book closure, do I sell?


If you really have to sell... Yes!!

@Guru.. thanks. It's not that I have to, its 'Where are the maximum profits'. I have made something here, thanks to you... but are there better bargains elsewhere?

@Mukiri. I'm sure there are better, in your words, bargains elsewhere and you won't see them until you sell PanAfrica. My advice: SELL.


@jerry what are these other bargains??

theking
#18 Posted : Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:42:54 PM
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when will the dividend be paid?
mwekez@ji
#19 Posted : Wednesday, May 22, 2013 1:52:18 PM
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theking wrote:
when will the dividend be paid?


1st July, 2013
theking
#20 Posted : Wednesday, May 22, 2013 2:06:51 PM
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mwekez@ji wrote:
theking wrote:
when will the dividend be paid?


1st July, 2013


thanks
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