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Multinationals and hopeless job security
Realtreaty
#1 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:00:34 PM
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Sad Today is another day that is so hard for the multinationals who maintain that they are everywhere and employing so many people in the world and will never fail or their jobs get over. But is it so? So many are paying peanuts at that expense and the workers have become clever, they move on and start competing with the same thus eroding the parent company revenue source.
Staff are paying to work there but not to benefit from there.
Do your mathematics on efforts you put on such firms and see if they are really paying you the salary you work for! They get richer whilst you get poorer and waste your time. Consult those who have left big companies like Cocacola, Hilton, Microsoft, KFC, macdonalds,BP, BA, Total, Shell Sony to mention a fewApplause Applause Applause
McReggae
#2 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2011 12:13:22 PM
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.....and you think that is unique to multinatonals?????
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Realtreaty
#3 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2011 1:47:25 PM
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Liar Tell me what u think, I already told you my view or experience!!!!!!!!d'oh!
McReggae wrote:
.....and you think that is unique to multinatonals?????

mycool
#4 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2011 2:34:11 PM
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Rich dad poor dad...Will answer your question.
McReggae
#5 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2011 2:59:59 PM
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Realtreaty wrote:
Liar Tell me what u think, I already told you my view or experience!!!!!!!!d'oh!
McReggae wrote:
.....and you think that is unique to multinatonals?????



What you say above is what you have to live with as an employee.....it does not matter the employer!!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
hisah
#6 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2011 3:18:05 PM
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An employee is a wage slave. Get out of the rat race and you'll be fine. Why should your employee (master) make the employee (slave) rich? Money has no morals and the system was made by the money masters. Make your own system or crash the current one to stand a chance...

Weird, this is my post 1666...Anxious
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
McReggae
#7 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2011 3:44:23 PM
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hisah wrote:
An employee is a wage slave. Get out of the rat race and you'll be fine. Why should your employee (master) make the employee (slave) rich? Money has no morals and the system was made by the money masters. Make your own system or crash the current one to stand a chance...

Weird, this is my post 1666...Anxious


It indicates 1668 posts!!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
Realtreaty
#8 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2011 4:43:34 PM
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Applause Applause Applause Great, who could think Equity bank could come up to trounce BBK, KK to overrun total or shell, BP to to pick their suits and go, Hilton to bring their pricing down? Today the main asset is that slave.....the employee and reason munyiri run away just to be hooked by family bank.
The future is staff/employee. You do not take care of them, close shop and go!
hisah wrote:
An employee is a wage slave. Get out of the rat race and you'll be fine. Why should your employee (master) make the employee (slave) rich? Money has no morals and the system was made by the money masters. Make your own system or crash the current one to stand a chance...

Weird, this is my post 1666...Anxious

KenyanLyrics
#9 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2011 5:55:00 PM
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This mentality of thinking that employed people are foolish suckers couldn't be further from the truth.

- McDonald Mariga and Dennis Oliech are low-level employees at mid-level companies, but they have lifestyles many Kenyan business owners could only dream of.

- If you have the 'employees are stupid' mentality, how are you ever going to form an effective team as a business owner? You'd have no respect for your employees, and in the end, no one would benefit. We all need each other in the end.

- There is no such thing as working for yourself. Making money is all about doing what other people want. At all levels, everyone has a boss. Even the CEO has to make sure he does the bidding of investors and customers.
bird_man
#10 Posted : Sunday, October 16, 2011 8:49:08 PM
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@KenyaLyrics....I like what you've written.Some employed guys are not really sackable and enjoy benfits and perks biz owners cant.Whichever side you fall on....INVEST.Investors make money whether employed,employing,dead or alive.
Formally employed people often live their employers' dream & forget about their own.
Lolest!
#11 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2011 6:43:51 AM
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Companies like Equity Bank can afford to pay peanuts because we have a job market that is flooded with jobseekers. Employers are spoilt for choice in most fields and will hire staff at their terms. For employees the best they can do is to move when they feel they should get more than the employer is giving
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wajuguna
#12 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2011 8:42:54 AM
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Like put elsewhere, employees are wage slaves, period. The employer will look to get the most from the emoployee- crazy hours etc, at the least cost- wage. Matters gets nasty when the supply side- jobseekrs is as ridiculously overwhelming as in Kenya.
Best chance is in starting own shop.
2012
#13 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2011 4:37:20 PM
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hisah wrote:
An employee is a wage slave. Get out of the rat race and you'll be fine.


That's a bad analogy because it means when you eventually become an employer, you'll shift from a slave to a slave driver. Most people start out as employees and gain something more valuable than money; experience.

BBI will solve it
:)
Drunkard
#14 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2011 5:59:49 PM
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hisah wrote:
An employee is a wage slave. Get out of the rat race and you'll be fine. Why should your employee (master) make the employee (slave) rich? Money has no morals and the system was made by the money masters. Make your own system or crash the current one to stand a chance...

Weird, this is my post 1666...Anxious


The entire post is weird or lets say narrow minded, but again lets try to discount your perspective. If you're selling vegetable for someone in a small kioski, yes you should start selling your own vegetable instead of working for someone, but what about if you're 27 yrs smart senior analyst at Equity Bank making fairly good money and with great potential for future leadership, are you suppose to leave you job and start a bank?
McReggae
#15 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2011 6:31:04 PM
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My beef with this post is not on competition between one having his business as opposed to being employed I(in any case I am employed), both categories of people are needed for this world to remain at balance.

My beef is with the premise of this thread, complaining about multinationals and their pay....people have choices and the truth is most multinatinals have a better pay package that indegenous companies, below I am posting a story...it is very long but if you have time you can read through!!!
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
McReggae
#16 Posted : Monday, October 17, 2011 6:37:30 PM
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I got a link for the story so just read through:

...Are you a bucket carrier or a pipeline builder???

http://www.scribd.com/do...-Parable-Of-The-Pipeline
..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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