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HISTORY MADE: US & ALLIES TO SELL 60M BARRELS OF OIL RESERVES OVER NEXT 30 DAYS!!
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Cde Monomotapa
#1 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 12:48:24 PM
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Upon release of the above news..nymex fell a whooping $4 to 91!
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Cde Monomotapa
#2 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 12:54:27 PM
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In addition, the printing of zero calorie money a.k.a QE (Quantitative Easing) ends this month. This means no more excess liquidity artificially pushing up commodity prices & then coupled with recent Saudi output hikes should see crude prices even LOWER!!
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#3 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 12:57:35 PM
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& all those fellaz speculating on the Ke.s will burn their fingers when the next crude shipment is @ upper 80s to lower 90s to the barrel.
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#4 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 1:01:35 PM
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Lest I forget.. Obama for re-election!!
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#5 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 1:24:51 PM
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Hope we gonna feel the effect of reduced crude oil prices. ERC might just do the unexpected.
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#6 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 1:39:14 PM
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Let's expect the best.
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#7 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 6:38:03 PM
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When we are told KQ hedged oil at $90 per barrel, do they refer to Brent Crude price or 'the other one'
Hope the reduction in price won't be as swift as it was during the GFC which affected KK and KQ
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#8 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 7:35:26 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
When we are told KQ hedged oil at $90 per barrel, do they refer to Brent Crude price or 'the other one'
Hope the reduction in price won't be as swift as it was during the GFC which affected KK and KQ

No clue man. Told you have to be a genius to be in KQ. In otheq news brent @106.
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#9 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 7:47:05 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
When we are told KQ hedged oil at $90 per barrel, do they refer to Brent Crude price or 'the other one'
Hope the reduction in price won't be as swift as it was during the GFC which affected KK and KQ

No clue man. Told you have to be a genius to be in KQ. In otheq news brent @106.

Sad
Hehe. Probably why my other question was never answered
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#10 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 8:01:05 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Cde Monomotapa wrote:
youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
When we are told KQ hedged oil at $90 per barrel, do they refer to Brent Crude price or 'the other one'
Hope the reduction in price won't be as swift as it was during the GFC which affected KK and KQ

No clue man. Told you have to be a genius to be in KQ. In otheq news brent @106.

Sad
Hehe. Probably why my other question was never answered

LOL!...still processing...Just hope KK hasn't contracted the Aug load as yet. Save a lot on forex & finance costs.
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#11 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 8:34:06 PM
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The wholesale and retail margins at any price is constant as per the ERC formula.
The same formula takes into account the volumes and prices of cargo imported through the OTS for the previous 3 months.I guess the beauty of being a regional player is in case you are caught up with expensive stocks you can push them to markets without price caps.
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#12 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 9:02:48 PM
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cnn wrote:
The wholesale and retail margins at any price is constant as per the ERC formula.
The same formula takes into account the volumes and prices of cargo imported through the OTS for the previous 3 months.I guess the beauty of being a regional player is in case you are caught up with expensive stocks you can push them to markets without price caps.

Interesting...thanks.
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#13 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 9:19:21 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
cnn wrote:
The wholesale and retail margins at any price is constant as per the ERC formula.
The same formula takes into account the volumes and prices of cargo imported through the OTS for the previous 3 months.I guess the beauty of being a regional player is in case you are caught up with expensive stocks you can push them to markets without price caps.

Interesting...thanks.

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#14 Posted : Saturday, June 25, 2011 8:28:04 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
& all those fellaz speculating on the Ke.s will burn their fingers when the next crude shipment is @ upper 80s to lower 90s to the barrel.
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#15 Posted : Saturday, June 25, 2011 10:36:34 AM
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cnn wrote:
I guess the beauty of being a regional player is in case you are caught up with expensive stocks you can push them to markets without price caps.

there is also definitely the component of public uproar... These usually have small success in bringing prices down in place of price caps albeit to a lesser extent
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#16 Posted : Saturday, June 25, 2011 11:13:13 AM
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KQ hedging structure is 50-50...their hedges are also short revolving I.e 3 month...meaning they can be adjusted from time to time but Brent trading at $85/barrel will wipe out all the hedge gains of last year and pose a danger to margins since oil above $80/barrel is no cheap oil
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#17 Posted : Saturday, June 25, 2011 11:16:48 AM
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the deal wrote:
KQ hedging structure is 50-50...their hedges are also short revolving I.e 3 month...meaning they can be adjusted from time to time but Brent trading at $85/barrel will wipe out all the hedge gains of last year and pose a danger to margins since oil above $80/barrel is no cheap oil

The above made no sense to me...
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#18 Posted : Saturday, June 25, 2011 11:28:18 AM
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VituVingiSana wrote:
the deal wrote:
KQ hedging structure is 50-50...their hedges are also short revolving I.e 3 month...meaning they can be adjusted from time to time but Brent trading at $85/barrel will wipe out all the hedge gains of last year and pose a danger to margins since oil above $80/barrel is no cheap oil

The above made no sense to me...

@VVS 50% of their fuel is hedged at $90/barrel, the other 50% is unhedged...from that 50% of hedged fuel...they hedge 30% of it on short term basis I.e 3 months...now KQ made Sh 298 mln from their hedges last year... this year they expect Sh 2.8 bln if oil stays above their hedge cap...the danger is oil falling below $90/barrel I.e $85/barrel because they will be making hedge losses and since oil is not cheap at $85/barrel the fuel bill surge but with the way they have structured their hedges their no longer exposed as 08 and they have minimised the risk...hope its clear now.

Read more http://contrarianinvesti...-at-us90-per-barrel.html
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#19 Posted : Saturday, June 25, 2011 12:05:24 PM
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the deal wrote:
KQ hedging structure is 50-50...their hedges are also short revolving I.e 3 month...meaning they can be adjusted from time to time but Brent trading at $85/barrel will wipe out all the hedge gains of last year and pose a danger to margins since oil above $80/barrel is no cheap oil


@the deal I think you are a little confused.. Lets say KQ hedges at 90$ per barrel.. then if oil is at 100$ kq makes a hedge gain of 10$ per barrel because they will still buy at 90$.

Similarly if oil falls to 80$ they make a hedge loss of 10$ per barrel because they must continue buying at 90$ per barrel as per the hedge contract
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Cde Monomotapa
#20 Posted : Sunday, June 26, 2011 12:22:08 PM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
In addition, the printing of zero calorie money a.k.a QE (Quantitative Easing) ends this month. This means no more excess liquidity artificially pushing up commodity prices & then coupled with recent Saudi output hikes should see crude prices even LOWER!!
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