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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/17/2008 Posts: 1,234
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May be well-meaning but it is a road-side order!! Consult and ensure proper planning first!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/30/2006 Posts: 635
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Someone should keep track of the number of orders this guy issues. Its a very noble though though to have all school going girls enjoying the use of pads
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/26/2008 Posts: 4,449
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On cost implications, I think the menstrual cup could do well for the numbers affected. Hope mr flippy consulted.
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/17/2009 Posts: 201
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considering that the government allocates approximately ksh 1200 per pupil per year which results into appromately ksh10 billion per year. the impact of giving sanitaty towels to girs approximatley 1million girls per month needs proper planning as the cost is quite high and how the project will be managed to benefit he intended persons. otherwise it will lead to another scandal. I think policy interventions to address the cost of sanotary towels and make them accessible is better than providing them for free
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/1/2008 Posts: 1,432 Location: Marsabit
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gmg wrote:considering that the government allocates approximately ksh 1200 per pupil per year which results into appromately ksh10 billion per year. the impact of giving sanitaty towels to girs approximatley 1million girls per month needs proper planning as the cost is quite high and how the project will be managed to benefit he intended persons. otherwise it will lead to another scandal. I think policy interventions to address the cost of sanotary towels and make them accessible is better than providing them for free I echo your thoughts @Gmg Nevermind what haters say, ignore them til they fade away - Just live your life
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2007 Posts: 8,776 Location: Cameroon
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What got me even more worried is the decision by parliament to give 2k every month to our grandparos. Though a noble idea, the cost implication is phenomenal. TULIA.........UFUNZWE!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/4/2008 Posts: 2,849 Location: Rupi
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simonkabz wrote:What got me even more worried is the decision by parliament to give 2k every month to our grandparos. Though a noble idea, the cost implication is phenomenal. And think of the number of fake grandmas and grandpas that we shall have. Lord, thank you!
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/3/2010 Posts: 1,141 Location: Londokwe
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Guys let the poor girls enjoy.it is not expensive.corruption is.we will have lesser to be pilfered. 2012 is here.Kenya is Ours.Be Part of The Peace Keeping Mission To Protect Our Motherland.Say No To Violence and Tribal Hatred .If you can read this,wewe ni mtu amesoma, usifikirie kama mtu hajaenda shule .Ni Hayo Tu
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/9/2010 Posts: 784 Location: ant hill - red hill
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The more I observe this guy the more I see a reincarnation of President Moi. Populist statements which are short term based and not sustainable. What happened to Diesel and Kerosene price reduction he ordered? His campaigns are also like Moi's, Ikolomani he order for a road to be tarmacked just like Moi with electricity in Kipipiri. Roadside declaration is another common trait. Intolerance another. The greatest act of bravery is chancing a fart while suffering from diarrhoea
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588
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I think people here are not being serious. Hapa ni pang'ang'a tupu tu. For your information: Quote:enough and targeted funding by government and donors to the girl child education. is one of the prospects of Education For All way back in 1999 that Kenya made at the World Education Forum and presented by E. M. Kiugu the secretary general of Kenya National Commission for UNESCO. That an old policy has been revived, nay, picked from the shelves and the bureaucrats reminded to dust and implement it at a meeting on gender affairs at the Kenyatta International Conference Centre in Nairobi can become a ' roadside declaration' ' intolerance' and so on is quite childish and not so grown up. I think the original poster should take his own advice and consult then plan his posts first. It will set the trend for the other members to emulate. Here, get enlightened before responding to this post, if you can,that is: EFA Country Assessments 2000 Reports
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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YesuWangu wrote:I think people here are not being serious. Hapa ni pang'ang'a tupu tu. For your information: Quote:enough and targeted funding by government and donors to the girl child education. is one of the prospects of Education For All way back in 1999 that Kenya made at the World Education Forum and presented by E. M. Kiugu the secretary general of Kenya National Commission for UNESCO. That an old policy has been revived, nay, picked from the shelves and the bureaucrats reminded to dust and implement it at a meeting on gender affairs at the Kenyatta International Conference Centre in Nairobi can become a ' roadside declaration' ' intolerance' and so on is quite childish and not so grown up. I think the original poster should take his own advice and consult then plan his posts first. It will set the trend for the other members to emulate. Here, get enlightened before responding to this post, if you can,that is: EFA Country Assessments 2000 Reports  ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/17/2008 Posts: 1,234
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YesuWangu wrote:I think people here are not being serious. Hapa ni pang'ang'a tupu tu. For your information: Quote:enough and targeted funding by government and donors to the girl child education. is one of the prospects of Education For All way back in 1999 that Kenya made at the World Education Forum and presented by E. M. Kiugu the secretary general of Kenya National Commission for UNESCO. That an old policy has been revived, nay, picked from the shelves and the bureaucrats reminded to dust and implement it at a meeting on gender affairs at the Kenyatta International Conference Centre in Nairobi can become a ' roadside declaration' ' intolerance' and so on is quite childish and not so grown up. I think the original poster should take his own advice and consult then plan his posts first. It will set the trend for the other members to emulate. Here, get enlightened before responding to this post, if you can,that is: EFA Country Assessments 2000 Reports You are so wrong boss! What is a road-side declaration here is not funding of girl-child education but the declaration that this must be done from July 1. Had he checked about funding plans for education against what is available from July 1? To the extent that he is giving orders suggests he has not consulted. Ordering the concerned Ministries to implement FROM JULY 1st the distribution of free pads amounts to a contempt of planning and whatever processes that go into it.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588
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Mpenzi, 1st of all, you have done well to recognize the hierarchy. It will kind of soften the tough love I have for you. Now for some education for you. Please concentrate on this. One of the government policies they made and are attempting to implement is vision 2030, whether we like that vision or not is another story. But if you peruse it, you will notice this part and I have taken the liberty to quote it for your specific benefit: Quote:.......The overall goal for 2012 is to reduce illiteracy by increasing access to education, improving the transition rate from primary to secondary schools, and raising the quality and relevance of education. Other goals include the integration of all special needs education into learning and training institutions, achieving an 80% adult literacy rate, increasing the school enrollment rate to 95% and increasing the transition rates to technical institutions and universities from 3% to 8% by 2012...... Now have you, Mpenzi, checked the plans and the subsequent and specific contingencies, milestones and outputs bla bla bla the bureaucrats have made over the years in regards to: 1: increasing access to education, 2: improving transition rate from primary to secondary schools, 3: integration of all special needs education into learning and training institutions 4: increasing the school enrollment rate to 95% and 5: ad nauseum for you to qualify your uninformed and poorly thought out suggestion that the technocrats in the relevant ministries have just been ambushed with a 'road side declaration'? Ati 'contempt of planning and whatever processes that go into it'....brother! Now please, for crying out loud for the second time, can you look at the relevant policies and documents and maybe question the bureaucrats and technocrats first before you respond to me. Again.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/17/2008 Posts: 23,365 Location: Nairobi
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Free primary education was once declared before any concrete plans were made, money was then sourced for the same.....only difference here is who made the declaration!!!!! ..."Wewe ni mtu mdogo sana....na mwenye amekuandika pia ni mtu mdogo sana!".
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588
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McReggae wrote:Free primary education was once declared before any concrete plans were made, money was then sourced for the same.....only difference here is who made the declaration!!!!! I dare to suggest mpenzi did not know that, being one of the pioneer pupils perhaps.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/17/2008 Posts: 1,234
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YesuWangu wrote:Mpenzi, 1st of all, you have done well to recognize the hierarchy. It will kind of soften the tough love I have for you. Now for some education for you. Please concentrate on this. One of the government policies they made and are attempting to implement is vision 2030, whether we like that vision or not is another story. But if you peruse it, you will notice this part and I have taken the liberty to quote it for your specific benefit: Quote:.......The overall goal for 2012 is to reduce illiteracy by increasing access to education, improving the transition rate from primary to secondary schools, and raising the quality and relevance of education. Other goals include the integration of all special needs education into learning and training institutions, achieving an 80% adult literacy rate, increasing the school enrollment rate to 95% and increasing the transition rates to technical institutions and universities from 3% to 8% by 2012...... Now have you, Mpenzi, checked the plans and the subsequent and specific contingencies, milestones and outputs bla bla bla the bureaucrats have made over the years in regards to: 1: increasing access to education, 2: improving transition rate from primary to secondary schools, 3: integration of all special needs education into learning and training institutions 4: increasing the school enrollment rate to 95% and 5: ad nauseum for you to qualify your uninformed and poorly thought out suggestion that the technocrats in the relevant ministries have just been ambushed with a 'road side declaration'? Ati 'contempt of planning and whatever processes that go into it'....brother! Now please, for crying out loud for the second time, can you look at the relevant policies and documents and maybe question the bureaucrats and technocrats first before you respond to me. Again. Your rude language ignored. Please read my posts very carefully. I repeat - the issue is not whether girl-child education should or should not be enhanced but that we need to plan and implement policies properly - and making orders that something must happen by July 1st is not the way to go. The fact that free primary education was implemented in a similar manner does not make such manner of implementation correct - we must move away from that and plan properly.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 11/4/2008 Posts: 1,289 Location: Nairobi
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simonkabz wrote:What got me even more worried is the decision by parliament to give 2k every month to our grandparos. Though a noble idea, the cost implication is phenomenal. This is for the ones with orphaned grand children under their care
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588
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Quote:Your rude language ignored. Please read my posts very carefully. I repeat - the issue is not whether girl-child education should or should not be enhanced but that we need to plan and implement policies properly - and making orders that something must happen by July 1st is not the way to go. The fact that free primary education was implemented in a similar manner does not make such manner of implementation correct - we must move away from that and plan properly. Obviously this wood appears to be drill proof. For the third time I ask you mpenzi, have you familiarized yourself with these plans, policies and their implementation schedules that you are so 'defending'? 1: What makes you think that despite the fact that improving education, and all it involves and includes e.g. provision of sanitary towels, that has been on the table all these years past, has not been planned for up to now? 2: What makes you think that this sanitary towels matter has never been planned for and that they were news to the bureaucrats? 3: What makes you think that July 1st is too soon for these policies, including this matter, to be implemented?
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 10/17/2008 Posts: 1,234
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YesuWangu wrote:Quote:Your rude language ignored. Please read my posts very carefully. I repeat - the issue is not whether girl-child education should or should not be enhanced but that we need to plan and implement policies properly - and making orders that something must happen by July 1st is not the way to go. The fact that free primary education was implemented in a similar manner does not make such manner of implementation correct - we must move away from that and plan properly. Obviously this wood appears to be drill proof. For the third time I ask you mpenzi, have you familiarized yourself with these plans, policies and their implementation schedules that you are so 'defending'? 1: What makes you think that despite the fact that improving education, and all it involves and includes e.g. provision of sanitary towels, that has been on the table all these years past, has not been planned for up to now? 2: What makes you think that this sanitary towels matter has never been planned for and that they were news to the bureaucrats? 3: What makes you think that July 1st is too soon for these policies, including this matter, to be implemented? Please do not put words in my mouth. Nowhere have I defended any plans, policies and implementation procedures. Your work should be very easy - simply show me where it says in any of the plans that you say are in the works that the implementation date is 1st July 2011 - then I will agree with you that this was not a broad daylight road-side declaration.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 8/11/2010 Posts: 1,588
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Quote:The Kenya Education Sector Support Programme KESSP 2005-2010 describes how education
provision across all sectors and nationwide will be planned, financed, managed, implemented and evaluated over the next five years.
One of the objectives listed in Gender Policy in Education (GEP) in July 2007 that feeds into the KESSP is “to make the school learning environment gender responsive to sexual maturation,” supports three policy statements:
1. Develop and implement policies on institutional support to sexual maturation, including infrastructure and capacity building of shareholders;
2. Co-ordinate partnerships and facilitate stakeholder participation in the management of sexual maturation; and,
3. Develop modalities for provision of sanitation materials as part of learning materials. National Comittee on PadsThis issuance of sanitary pads is way behind schedule. The July 1st 'order' is in fact, quite lenient to the bureaucrats and technocrats. Certain things were supposed to have been done before the financial year 2010 ends. You are the only one who still does not know that they are late, very late and are showing it off as if it were a medal. Mpenzi, it is not wise to make someone go for the overkill on you, like you have just made me. It is daft.
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