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Rank: Member Joined: 4/18/2011 Posts: 459
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I am relatively a layman with not much expertise about trading in stocks. I put my first 16k in NSE 4 yrs ago (Bought 200 BBK at 80/=) To date am still holding BBK and have added btwn 1200 & 2000 shares in 5 other companys (KCB@22, Safcom @5, KenolK@ 10.75, Equity @ 27.75 & Coop bank 20 )
Am wondering if am doing the right thing holding till they appreciate so I can sell at a good return. Or what other short cuts r there? Should I sell off all companies n buy a larger volume in one company? Is this going to be of more benefit? I could still hold the above for upto 15-20yrs if I have to (Holding other factors constant)
In My position what would you do?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/9/2009 Posts: 6,592 Location: Nairobi
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Kaka M wrote: Am wondering if am doing the right thing holding till they appreciate so I can sell at a good return. Or what other short cuts r there?
You're definitely doing the right thing to hold. I would only be concern with your portfolio balance. Looks like you have too many - not just financials but banks. You did didn't post the % per counter so it's hard to know if you're over-invested in Financials. I would sell some and get at least one agricultural counter at this time when they are low. I'd propose Kakuzi or Vipingo. I'm working on getting some myself. BBI will solve it :)
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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SELL S.Com fast! Use the chums to top up either co-op or KCB. You seem ready for the long haul then i'd strongly advise that u sell BBK for KCB or any of the local banks that you already have - this is based on stronger future earnings potential for local banks over BBK. AVOID agriculturals.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/24/2010 Posts: 846 Location: KENYA
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@2012...Im also heavily averaging down my holdings in Kakuzi. @ KakaM....some good advice there from @2012. Diversification also involves diversifying by industry. As it is you have a huge concentration of banks, not bad this season but what about the next, food for thought. You can put in some money say in Kakuzi, BAT and the very oversold KPLC....Just my opinion.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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KPLC is fairly priced that way..
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:SELL S.Com fast! Use the chums to top up either co-op or KCB. You seem ready for the long haul then i'd strongly advise that u sell BBK for KCB or any of the local banks that you already have - this is based on stronger future earnings potential for local banks over BBK. AVOID agriculturals. I hope that the money that KCB intends to put into its subsidiaries will turn them around. Equity's already have. Kaka M, since you seem to have a fetish for banks, i would suggest KCB:EQUITY 50:50. If you decide to enter other segments, you can consider the examples stated by others GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 8/16/2009 Posts: 994
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@ Kaka M, welcome to Wazua. I must say I admire your patience and that is what will make you money in this Market. What you can do like suggested by @ 2012 is hold less banks in your portfolio. I suggest 30% banks. Try to add more stable / promising companies in other sectors. Lastly, market downturns are what offers the best buying opportunities. I can say between now and late next year, will see bargains that will sweeten potfolios accross the board for those willing to wait. Cheers!! Time is money, so money is time. Money saved is time gained in reverse! Money stores your life’s energy. You expend your energy, get paid money, and store that money for a future purchase made in a currency.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 3/24/2010 Posts: 6,779 Location: Black Africa
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Gatheuzi, I thought you made a killing from being 100 percent in banks a while back  GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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I don't know when it started but most Wazuans prefer tea stocks over banks. U don't want to know what I think of that decision..
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 2/10/2010 Posts: 1,001 Location: River Road
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Kaka M wrote:
In My position what would you do?
I admire your patience 15-20 years you will still make money but If i was in your position i would try and treat my portfolio like a shamba you have to till, plant, weed it's not a forest where you plant trees and come to harvest after 15-20 years. Try and follow what is happening in the companies you are invested in what are the long-term prospects if you feel they are good companies also follow the price movement and average down your purchase price by buying at a lower price e.g safcom 3.7, KCB 17. It's a stock market(ni soko) so you have to keep checking the prices once in while and pick bargains. And please avoid those agriculturals unless you know how to value biological assets
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/25/2009 Posts: 4,534 Location: Windhoek/Nairobbery
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15 years is too long and boring my friend...right now the buzz word is INSURANCE STOCKS...theyre extremely Undervalued.
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Rank: Member Joined: 4/18/2011 Posts: 459
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Thanks guys for your advice so far, My preference for banks is because big brother(Central bank) is watching, Will organise to diversify abit with your advice in mind, am thinking KPLC & the agriculturals, had thought about, of Centum which happens to be the financials am to diversify from. But I consider it to be planting time so intend to pump in more cash while balancing the same with other issues like real estate.
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Rank: Chief Joined: 1/13/2011 Posts: 5,964
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mkonomtupu wrote:[quote=Kaka M]
In My position what would you do?
If i was in your position i would try and treat my portfolio like a shamba you have to till, plant, weed it's not a forest where you plant trees and come to harvest after 15-20 years. Real talk!
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/2/2008 Posts: 1,438
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:I don't know when it started but most Wazuans prefer tea stocks over banks. U don't want to know what I think of that decision.. That's not true. I am one of the tea stocks enthusiasts. This does not however mean that it is to the exclusion of bank stocks. My investment in bank stocks for example is more than 10 times what I have in Agriculturals. For mainstream investors, financials are still the place to be, but I can't help smiling when I look at the performance of WTK over the last couple of years. And of course there is the "real estate" angle to think of. As for banks, my preferences remain KCB, Equity & Coop. All these tend to fluctuate so buy them on the dips. HF is also one to watch. To the value investor, the insurance stocks may also have some appeal.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 7/22/2008 Posts: 1,139
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Kaka M wrote:I am relatively a layman with not much expertise about trading in stocks. I put my first 16k in NSE 4 yrs ago (Bought 200 BBK at 80/=) To date am still holding BBK and have added btwn 1200 & 2000 shares in 5 other companys (KCB@22, Safcom @5, KenolK@ 10.75, Equity @ 27.75 & Coop bank 20 )
Am wondering if am doing the right thing holding till they appreciate so I can sell at a good return. Or what other short cuts r there? Should I sell off all companies n buy a larger volume in one company? Is this going to be of more benefit? I could still hold the above for upto 15-20yrs if I have to (Holding other factors constant)
In My position what would you do?
I wish i had patience like you. But again,holding that long cannot may you the returns you desire and especially in recent times of global economic crisis and inflation factors. My advise is that you should continuously monitor the stocks so that you can know when to board or alight a certain counter. "You're not supposed to be so blind with patriotism that you can't face reality. Wrong is wrong, no matter who says it". Malcolm X
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/24/2010 Posts: 846 Location: KENYA
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the deal wrote:15 years is too long and boring my friend...right now the buzz word is INSURANCE STOCKS...theyre extremely Undervalued. E.g?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 3/18/2011 Posts: 36
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the best bus at the moment i would get in is KQ.period.......
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/22/2011 Posts: 193 Location: nairobi
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gathiru wrote:the best bus at the moment i would get in is KQ.period....... Wazua never seems to amaze me. when KQ was at 32 no one seemed to shout buy! now at 37?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/27/2008 Posts: 3,760
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Key - reinvest. Don't 'eat' the dividends, always take them, however small to your broker.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 1/21/2010 Posts: 6,675 Location: Nairobi
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The Merchant wrote:@2012...Im also heavily averaging down my holdings in Kakuzi. @ KakaM....some good advice there from @2012. Diversification also involves diversifying by industry. As it is you have a huge concentration of banks, not bad this season but what about the next, food for thought. You can put in some money say in Kakuzi, BAT and the very oversold KPLC....Just my opinion. @Merchant I'm here to issue a caveat emptor... I was wrong about Kakuzi in terms of future capital gains and further research I've done has proved that kakuzi is going to have a rough time in 2011... 1. The disruption from Egypt in feb/march might impact their sales 2. The persistent drought will not do them any favours 3. They are very diversified into avocado biz that few of us understand 4. Kapchorua and WTK present a better opportunity on the dividend, P/E, and NAV aspects The above are the reason i activated a stop loss at 75 and sold out of the counter. Good luck to ya Mark 12:29 Deuteronomy 4:16
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