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The long bear
Mainat
#1 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2011 12:50:48 PM
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Having looked at the market over the last 2/3 months, I think the NSE is unlikely to rise above 4,050 until 2013.
My reasons:
1. The political noise levels have frightened our banks from lending to the common mwananchi which means the economy won’t grow by more than 4.5%-5% and the banks themselves won’t make the kind of profits they did last year. The current noises are like having a neighbor who beats his wife every evening. He keeps you awake and you fear he may whip one evening. Banks are now chasing government securities and will continue to do so supported by
2. Higher interest rates: GoK overspend will continue between now and the new govt in 2013. This will entail higher borrowing (UK has already alluded to this in his budget statement last month).
3. Inflation is going one way: oil prices will probably standing heading downwards, but I expect inflation to stay because of
4. Patchy rains: our climate has changed and I expect rains to be followed by longer dry periods. We can change this (plant more trees), but in the meantime, we’ll see a higher population chasing less food. Patchy rains is also a problem given dependency on hydropower.
Sehemu ndio nyumba
ecstacy
#2 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2011 1:02:38 PM
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Karibu. Largely agree though I'd not be so pessimistic about the political jitters. 2012 may just be the first largely peaceful election.

This market depression translates to a buying opportunity...When in your view would you consider re-entering the market? What alternative investment vehicles or markets are you recommending over the period? Basically recommended strategy?...couple of IPO's coming up...
Cde Monomotapa
#3 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2011 1:53:28 PM
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I agree 100% on the concern about patchy rains. The CBK in its latest bank survey indicated banks had already lent more in Jan & Feb 2011 than they did in all Q4 2010. Elec.should be sufficient, though expensive, with recent Kipevu 3 120MW. I also declare that 2012 will be very peaceful. I'd advise U against hanging on to what politicians r yapping about OTW oppurtunities will elude you. As for govt.spending, it needs money to live and sustain infrastructure devt.which is well with me.
mlennyma
#4 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:01:59 PM
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Sell sell sell
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
the deal
#5 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2011 3:49:37 PM
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It's to early to tell...the banks Q1 numbers will be a pointer wheather the NSE will carry the worst perfoming market in Africa tag for the whole year...LoL.
hisah
#6 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2011 5:13:23 PM
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@Mainat - Loooonnng time. Is it possible to bring back the others when those days in 2006 - 2007 when discussions on stockskenya used to be worthwhile unlike the buy buy buy and sell sell sell clinchers that are the mantras in wazua...
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
young
#7 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2011 6:10:10 PM
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Greetings to you @mainat !!!

Times like this is pretty difficult for speculators.


For long termers it is ideal to build up with blue chips with high dividend yields.
The wazua spirit as members is to educate and inform and learn from others within the limit of what we know in any chosen area irrespective of our differences in tribes, nationalities, etc. .
wazua
#8 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2011 6:17:57 PM
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Dear @Mainat,

Allow us to join @hisah and @young in extending a warm welcome. It does feel like you've returned from a journey overseas. We hope you'll spend some time before taking a 'flight out'.

And a tribute to @young, who's tag line inspires our sign-off greeting.

The Wazua spirit

2012
#9 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2011 6:22:52 PM
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Mainat wrote:
Having looked at the market over the last 2/3 months, I think the NSE is unlikely to rise above 4,050 until 2013.


It will be way above that in May. Q1 has been good for most companies despite high inflation, Ocampo and other things

BBI will solve it
:)
holycow
#10 Posted : Wednesday, April 13, 2011 8:03:40 PM
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hisah wrote:
@Mainat - Loooonnng time. Is it possible to bring back the others when those days in 2006 - 2007 when discussions on stockskenya used to be worthwhile unlike the buy buy buy and sell sell sell clinchers that are the mantras in wazua...


True

@MainaT
I do read your blog at
http://mjengakenya.blogspot.com/
youcan'tstopusnow
#11 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 4:11:26 PM
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Mainat, the NSE has tested the 4050 range
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
Impunity
#12 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 4:18:39 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Mainat, the NSE has tested the 4050 range


The bear could be gone;KK back to pre cums at 9.90;KCB roaring at 26.
smile
Portfolio: Sold
You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.

hisah
#13 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 4:22:34 PM
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youcan'tstopusnow wrote:
Mainat, the NSE has tested the 4050 range


Yes it has...

Until 4200 - 4400 level is cleared with conviction (volumes), this index is biased downwards...

$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Tommy
#14 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 5:47:45 PM
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my only worry is that the politicians will start making noise around august, however i am optimistic of a peaceful election.
Don't wait for the Last Judgment. It happens every day. ~Albert Camus, The Fall, 1956
QW25071985
#15 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:09:28 PM
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this bear market has really taught me alot..always wait for the right time to buy...
i really dnt see any futhure sell-off like the one we saw at the beginin of the year. i am of the opinion ( and i keep repeating) the weak hands have been shaken off by the January sell-off and now those who bought during the sell-off are holding for the long haul.
What would make all those buyers who bought in January cause a sell-off next year and yet they havent broken even on their purchases.Do you get my simple logic ?
the only event that can trigger a massive sell-off is violence.I hope there wount be any.
Aguytrying
#16 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:22:14 PM
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I've been saying it, this will be a great year at the n.s.e. Things wont go down as most expect
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
lovely2010
#17 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 6:40:35 PM
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Tommy wrote:
my only worry is that the politicians will start making noise around august, however i am optimistic of a peaceful election.


I think we are encouraging them to make noise...maybe, just maybe...if there is a rally and nobody shows up...that would be great...I think they will show us some respect and they will be serious on matters concerning the country...just my thought.
mufasa
#18 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 7:12:57 PM
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@mainat - its a bear mkt but not for all counters. some counters like neveready & most merali are no go zones but certain financials might suprise you, don't right off the agriculturals too - not all of them depend on strong rains, take sugar for example. 4050 is too low, raise it a bit higher
Do it today! Tomorrow is promise to no-one.
youcan'tstopusnow
#19 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 7:31:46 PM
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4071 at close today!
GOD BLESS YOUR LIFE
QW25071985
#20 Posted : Wednesday, May 25, 2011 7:50:00 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
I've been saying it, this will be a great year at the n.s.e. Things wont go down as most expect


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly . dnt make me laugh. are you callin for a bull market this year ??????

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