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Access kenya How low can It GO.NKT
selah
#1 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 12:49:18 PM
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I hear today it touched 6 bob now I wish I had bailed out @ 9 bob.

Having bought it @34 this is the most foolish investment decision I have ever made....At least safaricom is picking up.My watchlist is painted RED.
'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
Wendz
#2 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 1:09:53 PM
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before it is suspended ama? May be kindu 1.50bob.... Kwani your target it to get out at the lowest?

We must have been fighting for the ka-share when you were buying.... Now this is what you call a monkey! Scratched me good time, and had to dump it with scars!
QW25071985
#3 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 1:27:19 PM
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I am still holding this monkey. But i fell for you @selah. At 34.00 wow. Thats painfull.
Once it settles i will definatly average down. I see it settling at 5.00 .And sell when it has a relief rally. Its really painfull to sell this stock at a 50% loss.
If i sell at lets say 15% loss the profit that i wld have gotten from buying the defensive stocks ( NMG, ARM, WTK , BAT) will easily compensate for that loss.
Djinn
#4 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:19:39 PM
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At some point I got tired of countering seasoned experts and financial gurus - but if anyone cares to look at the archives, the writing has been on the wall for a while. Shove your knowlegde of PE, profits, ratios and all that - you need only have listened to someone tracking the sector.

Outlook? Access becomes part of a bigger player in the next 3-6 months. They still command a decent share of the corporate market. Their retail strategy might be a non starter as was their IT Outsourcing one...(OpenView...someone say "fail")
selah
#5 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:45:52 PM
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Djinn wrote:
At some point I got tired of countering seasoned experts and financial gurus - but if anyone cares to look at the archives, the writing has been on the wall for a while. Shove your knowlegde of PE, profits, ratios and all that - you need only have listened to someone tracking the sector.

Outlook? Access becomes part of a bigger player in the next 3-6 months. They still command a decent share of the corporate market. Their retail strategy might be a non starter as was their IT Outsourcing one...(OpenView...someone say "fail")


I agree with you it controls a large chuck of the corporate market[40%]but its argument that its getting stiff competition from telcos makes me wanna kick somens a** its called competition and his job is to beat it not give us such lame excuses.

There was a story in aljazeera that highlighted a complex problem facing companies like AK that is companies that put up ICT infrastructure.The argument was developers[swipes] tend to generate more revenues using ICT infrastructure than the companies in-charge of putting up the infrastructure i.e pipes. And they gave a very good solution to this problem the best way to tackle this discrepancy is to collaborate with developer so that you get a slice of their revenue or venture into content development urself and enjoy those revenues also.

Here is a link I have found from Reuters highlighting that challenge.

http://blogs.reuters.com...just-a-fight-over-money/
'......to the acknowledgment of the mystery of God, and of the Father, and of Christ; 3 In whom are hid all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge.' Colossians 2:2-3
The Merchant
#6 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 2:51:34 PM
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This thing is headed for 4/- or less. No future growth anticipated here which is the basis for a stock price rise.
For Sport
#7 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:05:21 PM
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QW25071985 wrote:
I am still holding this monkey. But i fell for you @selah. At 34.00 wow. Thats painfull.
Once it settles i will definatly average down. I see it settling at 5.00 .And sell when it has a relief rally. Its really painfull to sell this stock at a 50% loss.
If i sell at lets say 15% loss the profit that i wld have gotten from buying the defensive stocks ( NMG, ARM, WTK , BAT) will easily compensate for that loss.


You’re pretty sure it will drop further. So why hold?
Here’s a thought - Just sell everything now..Then buy at 5 bob and sell when there’s that relief rally. Clearly, begging you to stay away from access wont work.
Disclaimer: still holding a few. They wont cause me sleepless nights though.
Djinn
#8 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:13:54 PM
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selah wrote:
[quote=Djinn]At some point I got tired of countering seasoned experts and financial gurus - but if anyone cares to look at the archives, the writing has been on the wall for a while. Shove your knowlegde of PE, profits, ratios and all that - you need only have listened to someone tracking the sector.

Outlook? Access becomes part of a bigger player in the next 3-6 months. They still command a decent share of the corporate market. Their retail strategy might be a non starter as was their IT Outsourcing one...(OpenView...someone say "fail")


I agree with you it controls a large chuck of the corporate market[40%]but its argument that its getting stiff competition from telcos makes me wanna kick somens a** its called competition and his job is to beat it not give us such lame excuses.

There was a story in aljazeera that highlighted a complex problem facing companies like AK that is companies that put up ICT infrastructure.The argument was developers[swipes] tend to generate more revenues using ICT infrastructure than the companies in-charge of putting up the infrastructure i.e pipes. And they gave a very good solution to this problem the best way to tackle this discrepancy is to collaborate with developer so that you get a slice of their revenue or venture into content development urself and enjoy those revenues also.

Here is a link I have found from Reuters highlighting that challenge.

http://blogs.reuters.com...ust-a-fight-over-money/[/quote]


@Selah, yes - that is true - BTW even mobile operators may very well go the way of the dinosaurs unless, when it comes to data, they stop thinking about merely providing "dumb pipes" and start thinking "smart pipes" where they tap into this revenue with 3rd parties. Interestingly this whole issue of sharing and collaboration takes us back to that arguement whereby the smaller mobile operators in Kenya would like a seamlessly connect mobile payment system...lets not regurgitate that tired argument that smaller players want to take advantage of scom innovation - what it boils down to is that the more seamless and shared the system, the more transactions that can run on it. Think Pesa Point and Visa Electron - if bank A decided it would implement all its ATMs alone, and not share with others (even the cost of building ATMS) that bank would not be in Kenya any more.

Open up the system - allow more transactions and third party applications - same way we want a common currency in EAC - what will that mean for each country?
Muthawamunene
#9 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:28:30 PM
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selah wrote:
I hear today it touched 6 bob now I wish I had bailed out @ 9 bob.

Having bought it @34 this is the most foolish investment decision I have ever made....At least safaricom is picking up.My watchlist is painted RED.



how the hell do you sleep at night? I must admit, you got some mighty big ballz o' steel. bit qw's are bigger. But there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Watch this space in a couple of weeks ama tell you how acck will pull off a profit for 2011, the other years i dunno.

Hint: Notice how they managed to cut their staff costs by 50% From 1B to 0.5B. And no i dnt have any acck in my books.
mlennyma
#10 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 3:50:00 PM
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Its dropping becoz there are sellers and am buying at every new low....the wish of the monkey is not the farmers wish.Laughing out loudly
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Wendz
#11 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 4:59:41 PM
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Muthawamunene wrote:
But there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Watch this space in a couple of weeks ama tell you how acck will pull off a profit for 2011, the other years i dunno.

Hint: Notice how they managed to cut their staff costs by 50% From 1B to 0.5B. And no i dnt have any acck in my books.


What are you seeing that am not? i need to know... because, clearly, this thing seems like it's feeding through an IV line... How sustainable is a share where the company results to cutting costs to beef up its profits instead of creating new business? I think these guys are relying on LUCK rather than having a strategy and innovation to move this company... may be time they injected completely new blood at the top!
the deal
#12 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 6:54:26 PM
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Cutting costs you mean a Somen will be serving me when i visit their Offices?...LMAO...with the declining turnover i repeat myself once again the competition i.e Sufferingcom will show them dust.
mlennyma
#13 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:22:34 PM
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Never be cheated that the bottom of a stock is known....just guess work.
"Don't let the fear of losing be greater than the excitement of winning."
erifloss
#14 Posted : Wednesday, March 30, 2011 7:54:42 PM
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A good speculative play. They have 2 options either go the Jamii way or KDN, partner with a telco & sell bandwith wholesale or be bought by a 'strategic investor'
'They say money cannot buy me happiness but when i compare when i had none and now, i'm happier' Kevin O'leary
Djinn
#15 Posted : Thursday, March 31, 2011 7:20:32 PM
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Wendz wrote:
Muthawamunene wrote:
But there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Watch this space in a couple of weeks ama tell you how acck will pull off a profit for 2011, the other years i dunno.

Hint: Notice how they managed to cut their staff costs by 50% From 1B to 0.5B. And no i dnt have any acck in my books.


What are you seeing that am not? i need to know... because, clearly, this thing seems like it's feeding through an IV line... How sustainable is a share where the company results to cutting costs to beef up its profits instead of creating new business? I think these guys are relying on LUCK rather than having a strategy and innovation to move this company... may be time they injected completely new blood at the top!


@Wendz - Applause True - we do not make our blanket longer by cutting from the top to add to the bottom....
mlennyma
#16 Posted : Friday, April 01, 2011 8:35:39 AM
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The demand was more than supply jana and the panic sellers are quickly getting finished...there was no new lows so i didnt pile more.this is where i will make my next million.
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KulaRaha
#17 Posted : Friday, April 01, 2011 8:45:31 AM
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And in today's Biz Daily the director says their strategy is sound!
Business opportunities are like buses,there's always another one coming
2012
#18 Posted : Friday, April 01, 2011 11:36:43 AM
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KulaRaha wrote:
And in today's Biz Daily the director says their strategy is sound!


It's not like we expected him to state otherwise. I'm sure given the same opportunity the Uchumi MD at the hour of collapse would have said the same.

BBI will solve it
:)
mlennyma
#19 Posted : Friday, April 01, 2011 11:49:57 AM
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We will make money here and get out when you continue dreaming of collapse.
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2012
#20 Posted : Friday, April 01, 2011 11:52:16 AM
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mlennyma wrote:
We will make money here and get out when you continue dreaming of collapse.


Who said it will collapse? Have Eveready, Sameer and Olympia collapsed?

BBI will solve it
:)
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