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CFC lays off workers,closes branches due to 75% slump in income.
mwana
#1 Posted : Friday, October 23, 2009 6:42:00 PM
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CFC financial says business in securites income has gone down by 75%.
Therefore they are closing branches and laying off staff...

http://www.capitalfm.co....roker-sacks-40-3250.html
VituVingiSana
#2 Posted : Friday, October 23, 2009 9:46:00 PM
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even the nairobi branch is suffering...

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Mainat
#3 Posted : Saturday, October 24, 2009 9:20:00 AM
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Realities of the low turnover at the NSE. I'm surprised more brokers are not looking to sell themselves to the banks...

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Scubidu
#4 Posted : Saturday, October 24, 2009 6:45:00 PM
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Brokers are no longer attractive to banks as they hold considerably debt (at least those that have recently sold). CFC is exposed to the equities market and local institutional buyers...some of the other brokers who have developed more foreign and bonds oriented businesses may be able to survive. But the restructuring is definately a step in the write direction considering they had a cost to income ratio of 2:1 by HY 2009.

SCUBI
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Kamaa
#5 Posted : Saturday, October 24, 2009 7:11:00 PM
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it is prudent of them to downsize in bid to control cost albeit some families will be affected than wait thousands of innocent investors get swindled by rogue brokers..

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drake
#6 Posted : Saturday, October 24, 2009 10:23:00 PM
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A slap in the face...I was planning to drop my CV there on Monday.

The underlying problem IMHO is short-sightedness by management and a broken business model - overdependence on brokerage commissions as a revenue stream.

Trading volumes have been low in stock-markets worldwide. 4 months ago on the NYSE & on NASDAQ,volumes were low....and even that was actually high-speed computers trading against each other.

Still most banks went on to declare some of the biggest profits in their operating history; partly because of cheap TARP funds but also because they have diverse revenue streams.

The key word here is PROPRIETARY TRADING.

A look at Goldman Sachs' 2009 3Q earnings (versus 2008 vs 2009 2Q) reveals that IB,AM & Security Services revenues declined as did commissions from trading. The bright spot was in Proprietary Trading (FICC & Equities) and Principal Investments.

http://www2.goldmansachs...ngs-releases/index.html

I don't know much about our local industry but from what I can remember of the financial statements from most IB's & Brokerages (circa. August 2009) trading revenue were missing as a line item or if it actually featured,was not prominent enough to stand alone or 'Prop' the business.

What we need is:
1. Proper regulation put in place to guard against abuse of the system.
2. Skilled,bright,imaginative minds manning those trading desks and playing both local and global markets.
3. The 'old-guard' in back office managing risk and compliance

PS. If you're looking for number 2 e-mail me.

1. Risk arises when you don't know what you're doing.

2. People diversify their portfolios to counter unsystematic risk.

3. People who diversify their portfolios don't know what they're doing.
Scubidu
#7 Posted : Sunday, October 25, 2009 4:02:00 PM
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@ drake

With regard to number 2,I know someone who might be interested. Although I am fairly new to this site,so what is your email address?

SCUBI
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Mainat
#8 Posted : Sunday, October 25, 2009 5:30:00 PM
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Drake-start your own joint...if you have a competency that differentiates you. Still don't understand why we don't have an online only broker...Maybe its too simple. Too commonsensical.

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VituVingiSana
#9 Posted : Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:06:00 PM
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@mainat: this is kenya... Online trading not allowed coz the powers-that-be do not allow for 'direct access' to CDSC system & ATS... ATS is 'stand-alone' at brokers' offices... NSE 'owns' ATS... and licensed to brokers... So without NSE's ok (Board approval not just management) nothing can happen...

I am not allowed to hook up another 'system' that allows access to the ATS... I can 'load' orders but that is done 'indirectly' through an upload format (CSV files)... orders are collated then uploaded... That's why unless u talk to a dealer directly... ur orders are NOT executed real-time since uploads may be done once a day or on the hour,etc...



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Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#10 Posted : Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:08:00 PM
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CDSC does not allow 3rd party (except ATS from NSE) access their systems... ATS is a trading system & brokers get only one access terminal... IBs get 5... I think u can pay for more but the terminals cannot be offsite... so no 'remote' trading...

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Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
VituVingiSana
#11 Posted : Sunday, October 25, 2009 7:09:00 PM
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Oops... I meant only IBs with broker arms can get the terminals.. e.g. an IB without a broker license cant get a terminal... e.g. Equity IB (former Juanco)

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Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
Mainat
#12 Posted : Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:28:00 PM
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VVS- dude,not sure how much u know about online trading but even in the more advanced stockmkts,online trading still involves a broker placing the deal for you in the system. Its not that every individual trader gets access to the trading system. Yes u get to see the real time trades on the system,but someone@the brokerage still places your order on the queue.

D&B had started online trading but probably lacked the requisite security controls.

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Kirethi
#13 Posted : Monday, October 26, 2009 10:10:00 AM
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The management should rethink their strategy and channel their energy towards looking for more business opportunities instead of laying off staff.
Enhancing efficiency in their operations should also be emphasised.

Watu wachangamuke
drake
#14 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 9:56:00 AM
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scubidu,si e-mail iko kwa member profile?

1. Risk arises when you don't know what you're doing.

2. People diversify their portfolios to counter unsystematic risk.

3. People who diversify their portfolios don't know what they're doing.
Ericks
#15 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 11:47:00 AM
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@ Mainat,..... i concur,i can only imagine what would happen if everyone is allowed access to the trading system,nightmares to expect the least. i think NSE should launch a system that can handle real time deal placements to allow investors take advantage of within the minute price changes..


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gift
#16 Posted : Wednesday, October 28, 2009 1:26:00 PM
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Its sad that they plan to lay off guys in December in their upcountry branches. There is reduced trade volume in NSE,therefore its hard for the bank to survive and support branches which do not bring any income. When was the last time u even thot of trading in the NSE...If u been trading b4,and now u dont trade,they hve no job.

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VituVingiSana
#17 Posted : Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:39:00 AM
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@mainat - well,what would I know about online trading... nuff said...

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