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Between Raila and Kalonzo: Who is better in international diplomacy
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freiks
#1 Posted : Saturday, January 22, 2011 5:16:57 PM
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I would go a thousand times for Kalonzo he seems to know diplomacy more than RAO, a good example the way he is handling the kenya ICC case to African heads is noteworth.I wish RAO would learn a leave from him
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#2 Posted : Saturday, January 22, 2011 5:22:17 PM
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both are crap
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Jus Blazin
#3 Posted : Saturday, January 22, 2011 6:51:51 PM
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SKM. His Yes/No stands on anything would actually work better on the warring parties who wouldnt know what he is upto or what his stand is, unlike RAO who had made his stand known prior.
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#4 Posted : Saturday, January 22, 2011 7:08:50 PM
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But I would rather be told in no uncertain terms the available options ndio I reject or accept or negotiate. Just me.
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masukuma
#5 Posted : Sunday, January 23, 2011 7:30:12 PM
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diplomacy requires a calm person, able to listen and someone quite patient...able to understand that the only way to eat an elephant is one bite at a time. remember Cyril ramaphosa? he like Rao came with an agreement ready to sign - he failed. while Bethwel Kiplagat, Lazarus Sumbeiywo, Kalonzo took their time and the elephant was chewed.
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simonkabz
#6 Posted : Monday, January 24, 2011 12:41:56 PM
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In that regard, KM beats RAO hands down. Case closed.
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Njung'e
#7 Posted : Monday, January 24, 2011 1:18:21 PM
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@Thimioni,
If this were the only to available options in Kenya, RAO would do.At least he is consistent in some issues.SKM is crap when it comes to consistency.
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#8 Posted : Monday, January 24, 2011 2:08:15 PM
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Km does good diplomacy with the East & African countries (dictorial regimes) Raila goes well with democratic West regimes
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KulaRaha
#9 Posted : Monday, January 24, 2011 2:49:46 PM
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Njung'e wrote:
@Thimioni,
If this were the only to available options in Kenya, RAO would do.At least he is consistent in some issues.SKM is crap when it comes to consistency.


I think you are very wrong.

SKM is just plain crap!
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kadonye
#10 Posted : Monday, January 24, 2011 3:00:58 PM
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Kalonzo is an in between undecided guy?What cases are there to prove that?The katiba?I think he voted NO but campaigned for YES to please the electorate but it backfired on him.I think Amolo is worse on doublespeak...sorry,I digress

I can't compare the two.Raila is largely untested in this field(he wasn't in Ivory Coast to mediate, he was there to represent the AU) which Kalonzo excelled when he was Foreign Affairs Minister.Thus Raila needs to be given more cases and then I'd know who's better!
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Zakumi
#11 Posted : Monday, January 24, 2011 3:54:22 PM
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newfarer wrote:
Km does good diplomacy with the East & African countries (dictorial regimes) Raila goes well with democratic West regimes



Thank you.Applause Applause Applause
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yekeyeke
#12 Posted : Monday, January 24, 2011 3:57:27 PM
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Kalonzo takes the win hands down. He is cool, calm and persuading an not ever abrasive and bully like the way RAO is.
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nostoppingthis
#13 Posted : Monday, January 24, 2011 4:19:26 PM
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The person with a backbone
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#14 Posted : Monday, January 24, 2011 4:33:45 PM
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the better diplomat is the one who will manage to bring the neighbouring warring Somalis bahala yakhe kwa negotiating table haiye.
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freiks
#15 Posted : Tuesday, January 25, 2011 11:54:27 PM
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Ngai vava, now ODM mpigs blame PNU for sending guys from Cote de voire to come and discredit RAO. This is utter nonsense from these guys

http://www.nation.co.ke/...4/-/avb6viz/-/index.html
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Njung'e
#16 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 5:19:06 AM
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[quote=freiks]Ngai vava, now ODM mpigs blame PNU for sending guys from Cote de voire to come and discredit RAO. This is utter nonsense from these guys

http://www.nation.co.ke/.../-/avb6viz/-/index.html[/quote]

@Freiks,
That's utter nonsense from desperados....Who doesn't know RAO was appointed by AU and that the Kenyan government can do nothing about.
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hoodrat
#17 Posted : Wednesday, January 26, 2011 12:10:53 PM
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nostoppingthis wrote:
The person with a backbone

Applause Applause Applause Applause absolutely.How can you make a stand in anything without a backbone???
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masukuma
#18 Posted : Saturday, January 29, 2011 1:48:03 PM
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KM shuttle diplomacy seems to have achieved intended results. RAO's is still dead in the water.
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sparkly
#19 Posted : Sunday, January 30, 2011 9:49:04 AM
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How can you have RAO and diplomacy in the same sentence?
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For Sport
#20 Posted : Sunday, January 30, 2011 3:36:37 PM
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International? Let's start at home first
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