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Rank: Member Joined: 11/6/2010 Posts: 110
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It is high time our compatriots from Luo Nyanza emancipated themselves from Odingaism. It is almost a cult. You need to read the signs of time and realize that as an individual or a group, you do not benefit in any way by staking your lives for these leaders. It is an open secret that you swim in abject poverty and your region is pathetically underdeveloped. The Tujus of this world had a development agenda for you but you blindly rejected them. If you do not wake up today, you will be miles away in terms of development from other regions.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/13/2010 Posts: 869 Location: Nairobi
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Did you read Phillip Ochieng's article on the Sunday Newspaper? ....above all, to stand.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 3/2/2009 Posts: 26,328 Location: Masada
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They are used poverty and being poor. It doesnt harm them any longer. Portfolio: Sold You know you've made it when you get a parking space for your yatcht.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/23/2008 Posts: 3,966
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This cuts across board. Luck is when Preparation meets Opportunity. ~ Lucius Annaeus Seneca
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 12/4/2009 Posts: 1,982 Location: matano manne
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Ms Mkenya wrote:Did you read Phillip Ochieng's article on the Sunday Newspaper? @MsKenya, IMHO, and with much respect and admiration for Philip Ochieng, what I make of his article on Sunday is that he is bashing RAO. Now the timing is curious, why did it coincide with the activities of the KANU orphans? I maybe wrong lakini Philip has a queer history of singing the tunes of the highest paymaster.
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Rank: Veteran Joined: 5/13/2010 Posts: 869 Location: Nairobi
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Rahatupu wrote:Ms Mkenya wrote:Did you read Phillip Ochieng's article on the Sunday Newspaper? @MsKenya, IMHO, and with much respect and admiration for Philip Ochieng, what I make of his article on Sunday is that he is bashing RAO. Now the timing is curious, why did it coincide with the activities of the KANU orphans? I maybe wrong lakini Philip has a queer history of singing the tunes of the highest paymaster. I was just surprised at how blunt he was.. However one thing i could not forget was the development in Tuju's constituency when he was the MP. Tribe aside, I couldn't understand why they could not re-elect him. They could still do RAO for Presi and Tuju for MP. His constituency stands out. I don't know how it is now.. I have not been there for a while. Anyone been there lately? I hope the current MP is development friendly too. ....above all, to stand.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 10/14/2009 Posts: 2,057
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.....now that agwambo is an 'international mediator'... Luo nyanza may not be in any hurry to wake up.... If you are an eagle don't hang around with chickens; chickens don't fly....
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Rank: Member Joined: 9/21/2007 Posts: 326
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I beleive with the county model it does not really matter where your political loyalty is at. Luo Nyanza will catch up with time and kudos for to the pple for believing and supporting the reform agenda all along! Speak your truth quietly and clearly; and listen to others, even the dull and the ignorant; they too have their story.
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Rank: Elder Joined: 9/7/2010 Posts: 2,148 Location: elderville
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Mo wrote:I beleive with the county model it does not really matter where your political loyalty is at. Luo Nyanza will catch up with time and kudos for to the pple for believing and supporting the reform agenda all along! Not without a change in leadership no Kenyan County would develop by much. Probably have the same politicians or their clones running things at County level. He who can express in words the ardour of his love, has but little love to express. - Petrach, Son. (That men by various ways arrive at the same end. - Montaigne, The Essays of.)
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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@Mo, are you sure things will change? I seriously don't think they ever will. ROs footprint will be on all Nyanza counties and no one will do anything about it. Only governors allied to RAO will carry the day, same for MPs, councillors, headmen Etc Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: Member Joined: 3/30/2010 Posts: 176
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Ms Mkenya wrote:Did you read Phillip Ochieng's article on the Sunday Newspaper? I did and was kinda jazzed that he would think that given he's one of them..
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Rank: Member Joined: 1/24/2008 Posts: 479
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Njore wrote:It is high time our compatriots from Luo Nyanza emancipated themselves from Odingaism. It is almost a cult. You need to read the signs of time and realize that as an individual or a group, you do not benefit in any way by staking your lives for these leaders. It is an open secret that you swim in abject poverty and your region is pathetically underdeveloped. The Tujus of this world had a development agenda for you but you blindly rejected them. If you do not wake up today, you will be miles away in terms of development from other regions. @bwana njore, i beg to differ ..poverty is everywhere in kenya..even in central..we do have the poor of the world..go to gatundu,muranga,nyeri and some parts of kiambu...pls open your eyes..and being an outsider,your pushy comments may be mistrued to mean something else..just lay your cards on the table.. Every man is guilty of all the good he didn't do- Voltaire
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Rank: Elder Joined: 11/27/2007 Posts: 3,604
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some opinions are misguided and can only believed by people who are not widely traveled. poverty has spread throughout the country and if you think what i am saying is a fallacy, try thing of your grand mother's living conditions (wherever she is). our Nyanza neighbors may be having a problem that they hope will be solved by 'serikal' but there is development pia huko. African parents don't know how to say sorry.. the closest you will get to a sorry is a 'have you eaten'
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Rank: Elder Joined: 5/30/2009 Posts: 1,390
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Mo wrote: Luo Nyanza will catch up with time and kudos for to the pple for believing and supporting the reform agenda all along! hehehe.I don't believe Jengs or any community for that matter have supported reform agenda.Just look at how they trooped back to M01's side after the 1997 elections! However we have different politicians/activists/clergymen from the community(and other communities too) who supported reforms on an individual basis but not as a tribe. Hizi kabila ziko interested only in seeing a good number of their people in big positions and defending them regardless of their misdeeds. What a wicked man I am!The things I want to do,I don't do.The things I don't want to do I find myself doing
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/6/2010 Posts: 170 Location: Kenya Tukufu
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Poverty, disease etc is not isolated to Luo Nyanza but if you look objectively the underdevelopment of the area is something to be worried about given the number of professionals from the area before and after independence...my 2 cents Hardwork, Smartness & Humility = Successful and Happy life...Jipange sasa hivi
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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@Kadonye, hapo umesema kama watu 10... Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/11/2008 Posts: 2,306
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I think there is a ray of hope. With the new constitution, gava largesse will no longer be through the prezzo, but through the committee on revenue allocation. As such, some historical wrongs may be righted. That said, Luo Nyanza is the only place notorious for ignoring development oriented leaders in favour of Raila sycophants. It will take a very long time for Nyanzan's to change their attitude. Great men are not always wise, neither do the aged understand judgement...
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Rank: Member Joined: 7/12/2010 Posts: 201
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I concur with Raszag. There is need to worry. Phillip Ochieng was spot on, and i dont think he's on anyone's payroll. based on available resources/raw materials. nyanza is the poorest (ex) province in Kenya. Why? well, refer to Ochiengs article. Which region in kenya hosts the largest NGO's per capital? need i answer?
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Rank: New-farer Joined: 7/19/2010 Posts: 98 Location: Kenya
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I think part of it is cultural. Pride, penchant for politics and "Know it all" attitude is Luos biggest misgiving. Met a watchman in Kisumu who I greeted in swahili but he responded in english. Habari ? Am very fine . hehe
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Rank: Elder Joined: 7/23/2008 Posts: 3,017
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whynow wrote:I think part of it is cultural. Pride, penchant for politics and "Know it all" attitude is Luos biggest misgiving. Met a watchman in Kisumu who I greeted in swahili but he responded in english. Habari ? Am very fine . hehe You should have written this post in swahili to show how down to earth and humble you are. "The purpose of bureaucracy is to compensate for incompetence and lack of discipline." James Collins
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