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Briatm, Britam, Britam sounds like sweet candy!
Realtreaty
#941 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:10:28 AM
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Joined: 8/16/2011
Posts: 2,386
mikegachunji wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
mikegachunji wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Britam will not be shy to announce their HY2016 this week.
They will focus on completing ongoing projects and consolidating funds to start new ones.
Still to be lateral in income generation but there will be much more hope.
May touch on bring in partner as soon as he is ready.Could Renaissance Capital be the partner?

just how much are you invested in britam?? Anyone following this thread closely can tell that you're very keen when it comes to britam in particular..just saying


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly , its my baby mind you!!!!smile
haha okay...what do you think of the current sub 12 price??


smile You see negtive while others see positive. The current price is good for people like Munga and the like who might have bought Rawat off at 16Kes. Now Mung can add at the current price on buy back trends before the share rise readying for new investor who may enter at 18-24 Kes.
Vita vya Paanzi furaha ya Kunguru!!!Laughing out loudly
mkate_nusu
#942 Posted : Tuesday, August 23, 2016 1:45:51 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 5/30/2016
Posts: 332
Location: Kayole
Realtreaty wrote:
mikegachunji wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
mikegachunji wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Britam will not be shy to announce their HY2016 this week.
They will focus on completing ongoing projects and consolidating funds to start new ones.
Still to be lateral in income generation but there will be much more hope.
May touch on bring in partner as soon as he is ready.Could Renaissance Capital be the partner?

just how much are you invested in britam?? Anyone following this thread closely can tell that you're very keen when it comes to britam in particular..just saying


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly , its my baby mind you!!!!smile
haha okay...what do you think of the current sub 12 price??


smile You see negtive while others see positive. The current price is good for people like Munga and the like who might have bought Rawat off at 16Kes. Now Mung can add at the current price on buy back trends before the share rise readying for new investor who may enter at 18-24 Kes.
Vita vya Paanzi furaha ya Kunguru!!!Laughing out loudly


@mikegachunji be advised @Realtreaty will lead you straight to the butchers with Britam if you join him. He has what is referred to as golden handcuffs on this share if you read through this thread you will understand search for @hisah comments
KEGN, KPLC, KQ, SCOM
mikegachunji
#943 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:44:06 AM
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Joined: 11/19/2009
Posts: 3,142
mkate_nusu wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
mikegachunji wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
mikegachunji wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Britam will not be shy to announce their HY2016 this week.
They will focus on completing ongoing projects and consolidating funds to start new ones.
Still to be lateral in income generation but there will be much more hope.
May touch on bring in partner as soon as he is ready.Could Renaissance Capital be the partner?

just how much are you invested in britam?? Anyone following this thread closely can tell that you're very keen when it comes to britam in particular..just saying


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly , its my baby mind you!!!!smile
haha okay...what do you think of the current sub 12 price??


smile You see negtive while others see positive. The current price is good for people like Munga and the like who might have bought Rawat off at 16Kes. Now Mung can add at the current price on buy back trends before the share rise readying for new investor who may enter at 18-24 Kes.
Vita vya Paanzi furaha ya Kunguru!!!Laughing out loudly


@mikegachunji be advised @Realtreaty will lead you straight to the butchers with Britam if you join him. He has what is referred to as golden handcuffs on this share if you read through this thread you will understand search for @hisah comments

@mkate_nusu... i have seen..caution has been taken
Realtreaty
#944 Posted : Wednesday, August 24, 2016 7:32:49 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 8/16/2011
Posts: 2,386
Realtreaty wrote:
mikegachunji wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
mikegachunji wrote:
Realtreaty wrote:
Britam will not be shy to announce their HY2016 this week.
They will focus on completing ongoing projects and consolidating funds to start new ones.
Still to be lateral in income generation but there will be much more hope.
May touch on bring in partner as soon as he is ready.Could Renaissance Capital be the partner?

just how much are you invested in britam?? Anyone following this thread closely can tell that you're very keen when it comes to britam in particular..just saying


Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly , its my baby mind you!!!!smile
haha okay...what do you think of the current sub 12 price??


smile You see negative while others see positive. The current price is good for people like Munga and the like who might have bought Rawat off at 16 Kes. Now Munga can add at the current price on buy back trends before the share rise readying for new investor who may enter at 18-24 Kes.
Vita vya Paanzi furaha ya Kunguru!!!Laughing out loudly

Do not scare anyone, the effect of Rawat/Mauritian is out
Realtreaty
#945 Posted : Thursday, August 25, 2016 8:07:11 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 8/16/2011
Posts: 2,386
Applause Applause MOTHER SUPERIOR!!!!!
MAGIC CANDY
My saying was on the wall perfectly hand writtenLaughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
http://www.businessdailyafrica....57366-snm8bkz/index.html
alotoftalk
#946 Posted : Thursday, August 25, 2016 10:20:14 PM
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Joined: 8/27/2015
Posts: 138
Location: Harare
Increase due to change from NPV to GPV. Less conservative.

The "good" results have no effect on cashflows.

Apples to apples their profitability is down significantly given the impact of this change was circa ~KES 2 Billion.
Investment philosophy development in progress...
VituVingiSana
#947 Posted : Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:13:26 PM
Rank: Chief

Joined: 1/3/2007
Posts: 18,349
Location: Nairobi
Change in accounting triples Britam profit to Sh1.8bn
http://www.businessdaily...7830-wlp5g2z/index.html

"Britam said it adopted a new accounting practice that marked down the claims besides recognising Sh331 million to settle a portion of its operating expenses linked to payment of outstanding policyholders’ benefits." >>> Is this a one-time gain?

"...indicating that the previous system led to higher reserving by overestimating insurance liabilities." >>> So less conservative?

"...Britam sold some shares" >>> One-time gain. Add the drop in HF (& Equity) value since 1 July... 2H may not be as rosy
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
hisah
#948 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2016 3:24:51 AM
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Joined: 8/4/2010
Posts: 8,977
VituVingiSana wrote:
Change in accounting triples Britam profit to Sh1.8bn
http://www.businessdaily...7830-wlp5g2z/index.html

"Britam said it adopted a new accounting practice that marked down the claims besides recognising Sh331 million to settle a portion of its operating expenses linked to payment of outstanding policyholders’ benefits." >>> Is this a one-time gain?

"...indicating that the previous system led to higher reserving by overestimating insurance liabilities." >>> So less conservative?

"...Britam sold some shares" >>> One-time gain. Add the drop in HF (& Equity) value since 1 July... 2H may not be as rosy

The best houdini act firm since 2014. Just when I think the show is over the pull out another hat trick. Very entertaining circus.
$15/barrel oil... The commodities lehman moment arrives as well as Sovereign debt volcano!
Realtreaty
#949 Posted : Friday, August 26, 2016 6:03:11 PM
Rank: Elder

Joined: 8/16/2011
Posts: 2,386
hisah wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Change in accounting triples Britam profit to Sh1.8bn
http://www.businessdaily...7830-wlp5g2z/index.html

"Britam said it adopted a new accounting practice that marked down the claims besides recognising Sh331 million to settle a portion of its operating expenses linked to payment of outstanding policyholders’ benefits." >>> Is this a one-time gain?

"...indicating that the previous system led to higher reserving by overestimating insurance liabilities." >>> So less conservative?

"...Britam sold some shares" >>> One-time gain. Add the drop in HF (& Equity) value since 1 July... 2H may not be as rosy

The best houdini act firm since 2014. Just when I think the show is over the pull out another hat trick. Very entertaining circus.

@Hisah, they adopted an agreeable method not from the bushes. So are they wrong and you right?
They have just said they inflated insurance liabilities earlier. Means a large amount of the money was never paid out and remained in the reserves.
Now things are positive. The only bad is slaughtering the banks.
Remember when women hide their secret units,No cry!!!(No children)
alotoftalk
#950 Posted : Saturday, August 27, 2016 5:06:40 AM
Rank: Member

Joined: 8/27/2015
Posts: 138
Location: Harare
Realtreaty wrote:
hisah wrote:
VituVingiSana wrote:
Change in accounting triples Britam profit to Sh1.8bn
http://www.businessdaily...7830-wlp5g2z/index.html

"Britam said it adopted a new accounting practice that marked down the claims besides recognising Sh331 million to settle a portion of its operating expenses linked to payment of outstanding policyholders’ benefits." >>> Is this a one-time gain?

"...indicating that the previous system led to higher reserving by overestimating insurance liabilities." >>> So less conservative?

"...Britam sold some shares" >>> One-time gain. Add the drop in HF (& Equity) value since 1 July... 2H may not be as rosy

The best houdini act firm since 2014. Just when I think the show is over the pull out another hat trick. Very entertaining circus.

@Hisah, they adopted an agreeable method not from the bushes. So are they wrong and you right?
They have just said they inflated insurance liabilities earlier. Means a large amount of the money was never paid out and remained in the reserves.
Now things are positive. The only bad is slaughtering the banks.
Remember when women hide their secret units,No cry!!!(No children)


They did the right thing as required by the regulator. Even though it's a less conservative metric.

What they failed to do and which will 'show the emperor is walking naked' at FY2016 is restating the Q215 from NPV to GPV basis [IAS 8.19 to IAS 8.25] so that we have apples to apples rather than apples to oranges as reported.
Investment philosophy development in progress...
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