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earthvoice
#1841 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:17:38 PM
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Wondering out loud...
The bulletin that excellent 1H 2011 results would be announced on 27th July seems to have triggered the current rise in KK's share price.
What I don't know is when the plans and dates for issuing the ESOP shares will be announced, and how soon they will be allowed to trade - this may kill the current trend in share price.
Will this announcement also be made on the same day as the 1H 2011 results ama? Anybody know?
Think d'oh! Think
"All intelligent investing is value investing -- acquiring more than you are paying for. You must value the business in order to value the stock." - Charlie Munger.
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Cde Monomotapa
#1842 Posted : Wednesday, June 22, 2011 11:26:59 PM
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earthvoice wrote:
Wondering out loud...
The bulletin that excellent 1H 2011 results would be announced on 27th July seems to have triggered the current rise in KK's share price.
What I don't know is when the plans and dates for issuing the ESOP shares will be announced, and how soon they will be allowed to trade - this may kill the current trend in share price.
Will this announcement also be made on the same day as the 1H 2011 results ama? Anybody know?
Think d'oh! Think

I'll be happy to buy if ya'll will be selling. smile
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guru267
#1843 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 12:22:01 AM
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earthvoice wrote:
Wondering out loud...
The bulletin that excellent 1H 2011 results would be announced on 27th July seems to have triggered the current rise in KK's share price.
What I don't know is when the plans and dates for issuing the ESOP shares will be announced, and how soon they will be allowed to trade - this may kill the current trend in share price.
Will this announcement also be made on the same day as the 1H 2011 results ama? Anybody know?
Think d'oh! Think


We all know about the dilutive shares so its already in the share price.. The announcement will have no effect..
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trizher
#1844 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:55:05 AM
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...when should i alight?
...We do it for the $$$$!!
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QW25071985
#1845 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:00:24 AM
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trizher wrote:
...when should i alight?


a good place to alight is 13.50-14.00 level...i expect allot of selling around this area.thats what the charts say
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QW25071985
#1846 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:02:49 AM
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guru267 wrote:
earthvoice wrote:
Wondering out loud...
The bulletin that excellent 1H 2011 results would be announced on 27th July seems to have triggered the current rise in KK's share price.
What I don't know is when the plans and dates for issuing the ESOP shares will be announced, and how soon they will be allowed to trade - this may kill the current trend in share price.
Will this announcement also be made on the same day as the 1H 2011 results ama? Anybody know?
Think d'oh! Think


We all know about the dilutive shares so its already in the share price.. The announcement will have no effect..


definately those who are buying are brave.if they can stare dilution straight in the face and still buy..wow..you need balls of steel...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
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Gordon Gekko
#1847 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:49:37 AM
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guru267 wrote:
earthvoice wrote:
Wondering out loud...
The bulletin that excellent 1H 2011 results would be announced on 27th July seems to have triggered the current rise in KK's share price.
What I don't know is when the plans and dates for issuing the ESOP shares will be announced, and how soon they will be allowed to trade - this may kill the current trend in share price.
Will this announcement also be made on the same day as the 1H 2011 results ama? Anybody know?
Think d'oh! Think


We all know about the dilutive shares so its already in the share price.. The announcement will have no effect..

But what if the announcement is BETTER than the projection?
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trizher
#1848 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 7:53:30 AM
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QW25071985 wrote:
trizher wrote:
...when should i alight?


a good place to alight is 13.50-14.00 level...i expect allot of selling around this area.thats what the charts say


Gracias senor QW25071985
...We do it for the $$$$!!
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Impunity
#1849 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 8:41:12 AM
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@QW is the one who said this gem will never see level 10,now he is seeing KK touching level 14;wow,now I know why wazuan investors puke when you shout BUY BUY BUY ,SELL SELL SELL....NKTesticals.
Portfolio: Sold
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#1850 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 9:38:54 AM
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QW25071985 wrote:
guru267 wrote:
earthvoice wrote:
Wondering out loud...
The bulletin that excellent 1H 2011 results would be announced on 27th July seems to have triggered the current rise in KK's share price.
What I don't know is when the plans and dates for issuing the ESOP shares will be announced, and how soon they will be allowed to trade - this may kill the current trend in share price.
Will this announcement also be made on the same day as the 1H 2011 results ama? Anybody know?
Think d'oh! Think


We all know about the dilutive shares so its already in the share price.. The announcement will have no effect..


definately those who are buying are brave.if they can stare dilution straight in the face and still buy..wow..you need balls of steel...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly
Yes, some of us have balls. Huge. 2 of them. And not just for show.
Greedy when others are fearful. Very fearful when others are greedy - to paraphrase Warren Buffett
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earthvoice
#1851 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 11:35:30 AM
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QW25071985 wrote:
guru267 wrote:

We all know about the dilutive shares so its already in the share price.. The announcement will have no effect..


definately those who are buying are brave.if they can stare dilution straight in the face and still buy..wow..you need balls of steel...Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly Laughing out loudly


... I get the feeling they might make the profit announcement and release the ESOP dates at the same time, one to mitigate the other.
"All intelligent investing is value investing -- acquiring more than you are paying for. You must value the business in order to value the stock." - Charlie Munger.
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#1852 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 12:12:46 PM
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To think that esop will not affect share price is to be optimistic. Things like bonuses and esop have no respect for any company. Good thing is its on 9 percent. I think it would be unfair for the management to announce both of them at half yr results, to the shareholders.
The investor's chief problem - and even his worst enemy - is likely to be himself
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#1853 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 12:39:51 PM
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Aguytrying wrote:
To think that esop will not affect share price is to be optimistic. Things like bonuses and esop have no respect for any company. Good thing is its on 9 percent. I think it would be unfair for the management to announce both of them at half yr results, to the shareholders.


Any person buying the share currently (and since the announcement of the 140M shares ESOP for that matter)knows fully well that the share is trading 'come ESOP' equivalent to a 9.7% dilutional effect.......Unless the investor is buying with the assumption that the CMA will block the 140M shares ESOP? As such, the current EPS should be adjusted from Ksh 1.2 to Ksh 1.08 for 2010. But what is of interest is that the forward EPS for 2011 is in the range of Ksh 2 after all the dilutional effect is factored. Thats why the effect of the dilution is in my opinion negligible after factoring in the earnings growth this company is providing.

Happy hunting.
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Cde Monomotapa
#1854 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 12:44:59 PM
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9% dilution Vs. 50% growth in EPS. Be reasonable.
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FUNKY
#1855 Posted : Thursday, June 23, 2011 2:58:56 PM
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It is trading at 11.15/
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jawz1
#1856 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 7:21:58 AM
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More good news (is there any other kind lately?) for KK shareholders from Business Daily...

The reduced use of fuel-driven power generators and price controls have prompted fresh realignments in the oil market with Total Kenya being the biggest loser and KenolKobil emerging as the biggest winner, thanks to the even spread of its fuel stations throughout the country.

Data from the Petroleum Institute of East Africa (PIEA)— the industry lobby — shows that Total’s marketshare dropped to 24.1 per cent in March compared to 31.1 per cent in the same period last year. Its rivals, KenolKobil, gained 4.8 per cent to 23.5 per cent.
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jawz1
#1857 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 7:24:40 AM
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Here's the link

KenolKobil Gains Market Share

And this data is from March 2011 before the popular discount Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays! Me likey!
"When the pupil is ready to learn, a teacher will appear." -- Zen proverb
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Cde Monomotapa
#1858 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 7:39:12 AM
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jawz1 wrote:
Here's the link

KenolKobil Gains Market Share

And this data is from March 2011 before the popular discount Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays! Me likey!

The offer must have added another 3-6%
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jawz1
#1859 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 7:49:12 AM
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Cde Monomotapa wrote:
jawz1 wrote:
Here's the link

KenolKobil Gains Market Share

And this data is from March 2011 before the popular discount Tuesdays, Fridays and Sundays! Me likey!

The offer must have added another 3-6%

Very true, this company is really going places!
"When the pupil is ready to learn, a teacher will appear." -- Zen proverb
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#1860 Posted : Friday, June 24, 2011 8:34:06 AM
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