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geofreygachie
#911 Posted : Sunday, December 11, 2016 10:51:23 PM
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kanyimwa wrote:
Winwin wrote:
I'd be up and about in 2 weeks....I would like advice on the best trackers for mats.....just to have something differently form what I have with the current one. Please advise a fellow hustler.


Everyone these days is using the ordinary cheap chinese trackers the TK103A/B. The features of the online platform you choose is what makes the perceived "differences" by the marketers

Avoid those Chinese trackers if you can .They are inefficient and they have high failure rate .Just invest in a reputable brand and you will never regret.I am an installer and the first batch i did some Chinese trackers but the all failed and my clients got furious.We decided to exclusively deal with Teltonika and I have never had issues,furthermore even the most basic tracker has functions that even the high end Chinese brands don't have e.g fuel monitoring and the speed governing function without need for additional accessories.I have installed some in excavators and wheel loaders for monitoring work hours ,the list is endless so many ways to use the device. The initial cost is higher compared to the Chinese brands that we have in the market.Infact NTSA have listed one of the Teltonika Tracker model as authorised speed governor.
The tracking system is flexible allowing the user to generate detailed reports.
A certain bus company operating on MSA - NRB route has changed to this brand after experiencing problem with the Chinese ones.I am not trying to make a sale just passing information that will help you in your decision making.
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Wa_ithaka
#912 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2016 5:11:54 AM
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What is the cost plus installation of the better trackers?
geofreygachie wrote:
kanyimwa wrote:
Winwin wrote:
I'd be up and about in 2 weeks....I would like advice on the best trackers for mats.....just to have something differently form what I have with the current one. Please advise a fellow hustler.


Everyone these days is using the ordinary cheap chinese trackers the TK103A/B. The features of the online platform you choose is what makes the perceived "differences" by the marketers

Avoid those Chinese trackers if you can .They are inefficient and they have high failure rate .Just invest in a reputable brand and you will never regret.I am an installer and the first batch i did some Chinese trackers but the all failed and my clients got furious.We decided to exclusively deal with Teltonika and I have never had issues,furthermore even the most basic tracker has functions that even the high end Chinese brands don't have e.g fuel monitoring and the speed governing function without need for additional accessories.I have installed some in excavators and wheel loaders for monitoring work hours ,the list is endless so many ways to use the device. The initial cost is higher compared to the Chinese brands that we have in the market.Infact NTSA have listed one of the Teltonika Tracker model as authorised speed governor.
The tracking system is flexible allowing the user to generate detailed reports.
A certain bus company operating on MSA - NRB route has changed to this brand after experiencing problem with the Chinese ones.I am not trying to make a sale just passing information that will help you in your decision making.

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geofreygachie
#913 Posted : Monday, December 12, 2016 8:46:19 AM
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Wa_ithaka wrote:
What is the cost plus installation of the better trackers?
geofreygachie wrote:
kanyimwa wrote:
Winwin wrote:
I'd be up and about in 2 weeks....I would like advice on the best trackers for mats.....just to have something differently form what I have with the current one. Please advise a fellow hustler.


Everyone these days is using the ordinary cheap chinese trackers the TK103A/B. The features of the online platform you choose is what makes the perceived "differences" by the marketers

Avoid those Chinese trackers if you can .They are inefficient and they have high failure rate .Just invest in a reputable brand and you will never regret.I am an installer and the first batch i did some Chinese trackers but the all failed and my clients got furious.We decided to exclusively deal with Teltonika and I have never had issues,furthermore even the most basic tracker has functions that even the high end Chinese brands don't have e.g fuel monitoring and the speed governing function without need for additional accessories.I have installed some in excavators and wheel loaders for monitoring work hours ,the list is endless so many ways to use the device. The initial cost is higher compared to the Chinese brands that we have in the market.Infact NTSA have listed one of the Teltonika Tracker model as authorised speed governor.
The tracking system is flexible allowing the user to generate detailed reports.
A certain bus company operating on MSA - NRB route has changed to this brand after experiencing problem with the Chinese ones.I am not trying to make a sale just passing information that will help you in your decision making.


It costs 15000 (device + installation within Nairobi) An annual fee of 1400 from the second year after installation.
Divers - can you laugh in scuba gear, or will you drown? I was wondering. - James May.
Jon Jones
#914 Posted : Wednesday, December 28, 2016 5:57:06 AM
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Asking for a friend.
1. Assuming one has a HiAce Petrol Auto. I need to change it to diesel auto. Will I need to buy both the engine and the gearbox, or just the engine?
2. How much will a 2kd engine cost i.e purchase+installation?
3. Anyone who has successfully changed to a diesel engine, how was the experience? Were there any complications? Should I expect the same fuel efficiency as that of a new diesel van with a similar engine?
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Rankaz13
#915 Posted : Wednesday, December 28, 2016 10:02:31 AM
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Jon Jones wrote:
Asking for a friend.
1. Assuming one has a HiAce Petrol Auto. I need to change it to diesel auto. Will I need to buy both the engine and the gearbox, or just the engine?
2. How much will a 2kd engine cost i.e purchase+installation?
3. Anyone who has successfully changed to a diesel engine, how was the experience? Were there any complications? Should I expect the same fuel efficiency as that of a new diesel van with a similar engine?


1. Model matters. If changing from TRH to 1KZ, then you'll have to switch both engine and gearbox. If from TRH to 2KD, engine only. In all cases, ECU lazima ubadilishe pia.

2. Some 'leg work' is called for. Dar-es-Salaam road and Baricho road neighborhoods for the parts.

3. I've heard of some who've done it but I don't know them personally. Efficiency depends on age of engine/ condition it was in when you bought it and driving style, among other factors.
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Chaka
#916 Posted : Wednesday, December 28, 2016 2:41:07 PM
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Jon Jones wrote:
Asking for a friend.
1. Assuming one has a HiAce Petrol Auto. I need to change it to diesel auto. Will I need to buy both the engine and the gearbox, or just the engine?
2. How much will a 2kd engine cost i.e purchase+installation?
3. Anyone who has successfully changed to a diesel engine, how was the experience? Were there any complications? Should I expect the same fuel efficiency as that of a new diesel van with a similar engine?

Meaning its better to buy the diesel version,though more expensive?
Rankaz13
#917 Posted : Wednesday, December 28, 2016 9:27:28 PM
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Chaka wrote:
Jon Jones wrote:
Asking for a friend.
1. Assuming one has a HiAce Petrol Auto. I need to change it to diesel auto. Will I need to buy both the engine and the gearbox, or just the engine?
2. How much will a 2kd engine cost i.e purchase+installation?
3. Anyone who has successfully changed to a diesel engine, how was the experience? Were there any complications? Should I expect the same fuel efficiency as that of a new diesel van with a similar engine?

Meaning its better to buy the diesel version,though more expensive?


Given the dearth of professionals with sufficient skills to successfully pull off such a conversion, I would aver so. However many factors also come into play, chiefly the distance and terrain. If not too hilly and about 100km one way, I'd think petrol is alright.
Life is like playing a violin solo in public and learning the instrument as one goes on.
Mkondoa Macho
#918 Posted : Friday, February 17, 2017 7:44:34 PM
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Anyone here who has an 18 passenger van for long distance...is there any big difference in fuel consumption and maintenance with a 14 seater van? My thinking is that if fixed costs such as repairs, fuel, kanjo etc (except comprehensive insurance)are similar to a 14 seater, then the 18 seater is far more profitable. I assume that the stress of managing a 14 seater and an 18 seater is the same. Anyone here with experience in both????I am considering buying and I am torn between a 14 seater and an 18 seater van...but at the back of my mind I think it would make more economic sense to buy the 18 seater because the fixed costs for both vans may be the same.
subaru
#919 Posted : Friday, February 24, 2017 5:36:57 AM
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Jon Jones
#920 Posted : Wednesday, March 15, 2017 1:54:35 PM
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With the rising fuel prices, those in the transport industry like uber, matatus, haulage etc must be feeling the heat especially where margins are slim. How are you guys in the matatu industry coping with increasing fuel prices, and flat fare charged due to competition?? If the increase continues, it may drive people away from matatu investments and make it a "do it yourself" business for 14 seaters.
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