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Question for a4architect
Pablo
#161 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 6:10:51 PM
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Roofing is tricky. I thought I had a generous budget was of 550k but ended up spending 680k.

Although I had a tree cut up it could not be used for battens (the wood on which you actually nail the roofing tiles) so I had to buy cypress which was softer and would not make the nails bend (damaging the tiles).

2ndly when I got estimates of the roof area it ended up being short 15% or so. So I had to buy more tiles and since this was urgent I paid 20%more than the original batch.

Also when negotiating you roofing labour contract ensure you include the ceiling frame and the TNG otherwise your contractor will charge you like 30% more later.

Lastly, once they do the trusses and the Fuscia boards (before they nail a single tile) unsure the fuscia is completely straight otherwise straightening it later may damage your tiles.

DuraRoofing gave me very good service and I wished I requested them to go to the site to estimate the requirements.

Oh, by the way be prepared to use like a gunia (80kg) of nails.
qadaffi
#162 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 9:01:27 PM
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Many thanks.
Eddy
#163 Posted : Wednesday, August 18, 2010 10:18:07 PM
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@Pablo,
Good work as always, God bless.
Lek
#164 Posted : Thursday, September 16, 2010 11:58:50 PM
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Guys, has anyone had experience with Roser Roofing System compared to normal tiles? I understand its a technology from Korea. From its website, the list of benefits is quite long but i wld really like to hear if anyone has tried it locally, in terms of durability, cost e.t.c.
RichVee
#165 Posted : Monday, October 04, 2010 12:06:37 PM
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Wow, what a resourceful discussion!! Thanks people. I am inspired and challenged.
Tired of mediocrity. Am going to the very top!
mukiha
#166 Posted : Monday, October 04, 2010 12:24:21 PM
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haiyaa wrote:

The National Social Security Fund (NSSF) is constructing 688 units in Nyayo Estate Embakasi Phase II to be completed by 30th June, 2011.

The houses are now available for sale either on cash basis or Tenant Purchase Scheme.

They will be ready for occupation provisionally by 1st August, 2011.

The Site

Nyayo Estate Embakasi is strategically located 18 kilometres from the City Centre and is easily accessible from the City Centre via Outering Road and Mombasa Road.

The site infrastructure includes tarmac roads, perimeter wall, street lighting, ample parking space and play grounds among others.

NSSF is also in the process of sinking boreholes to supplement the supply of water by Nairobi Water and Sewerage Company Limited.

Design Concept

The concept of the estate is to provide a serene and secure environment to cater for self sufficient community with nursery and primary schools, shopping centres and community centres.

Interior Finishes

MDF cabinets and wardrobes
Ceramic tiles on wet areas
Cubicle shower
Sale Prices

3 Bedroom Flat - Kshs. 5.28 million
3 Bedroom Standard Maisonette - Kshs. 6.48 million
3 Bedroom Corner Maisonette - Kshs. 6.68 million
3 Bedroom Duka Maisonette - Kshs. 7.5 million


Where exactly is the location of these houses?

Isnt it much cheaper to build your own especially the maisonette?

Nyayo Embakasi is located at Nyayo Embakasi! It is the biggest development at Embakasi.

Drive dow Mombasa rd to City Cabanas; Turn Left into North Airport rd; go past the Outer Ring rd roundabout and proceed towrads KQ HQ [that's a good rhyme, KQ HQ]. You will begin to see the houses on your left as you approach KQ HQ. Turn left again just BEFORE the Nairobi Bottlers (Coca Cola) plant.

Isn't it much cheaper to build your own...? YES, if the cost you are concerned about is just that of putting up the house.

However, many people find that the headache of following up fundis [who are trying to con you] and of chasing utilities [power, water, sewer,] and of living withou infrastructure [tarmac roads, street lighting etc] too much. Thus they simply opt to buy a ready made house and move in immediately---knowing full well that the price is higher than building for your-self
Nothing is real unless it can be named; nothing has value unless it can be sold; money is worthless unless you spend it.
Jitahidi
#167 Posted : Monday, October 04, 2010 12:50:23 PM
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Any idea on where i can get the best deals on chumas in Nairobi (Y10, Y12, Y16, Y8 & R8)?
Pablo
#168 Posted : Monday, October 04, 2010 2:52:30 PM
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I bought my slab Chumas at a distributors shop in Addis Ababa Rd, industrial area. I thing it was called tools and hardware. The guys gave me free delivery to over 30kms.
Prices i got then were

Y10 - 450
Y12 - 650
Y16 - 1,250
R8 - 365
Jitahidi
#169 Posted : Monday, October 04, 2010 3:17:07 PM
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Pablo wrote:
I bought my slab Chumas at a distributors shop in Addis Ababa Rd, industrial area. I thing it was called tools and hardware. The guys gave me free delivery to over 30kms.
Prices i got then were

Y10 - 450
Y12 - 650
Y16 - 1,250
R8 - 365



Thanks Pablo. The rate you got was very good. The best i have got so far is what i have put on red below

Y10 - 450 - 590
Y12 - 650 - 790
Y16 - 1,250 - 1420
R8 - 365 - 300
Though i hear the prices have gone up i would like to try your place as well. Kindly post their telephone no. if you still have them - check also on the invoice/ delivery notes
Pablo
#170 Posted : Tuesday, October 05, 2010 3:16:00 PM
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Not really sure I have the receipts. But when you have time take a drive there. You may just save yourself 30k!
Injere
#171 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:16:44 PM
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Folks - my architect has agreed to supervise my mjengo. I actually thought this would be included in his architectural fees but i now understand this will cost me about 3k/day or visit. Blame me for being naive!

What's your experience guys? Is this a reasonable market rate or am i being ripped off? I have fantasized about getting some low cost guy to supervise the job but i reckon this could be risky and mistakes can get costly to fix considering the number of idiots out there who claim to have expertise in anything just to earn a quick buck!
Injere
#172 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 1:20:23 PM
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Forgot to add that i will have bankroll a structural engineer too. Anyone with an idea what this engineer might charge? it is per day as well or per job?

Again, just trying to avoid day right robberies in my office!
Jitahidi
#173 Posted : Wednesday, October 06, 2010 3:23:47 PM
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Injere wrote:
Forgot to add that i will have bankroll a structural engineer too. Anyone with an idea what this engineer might charge? it is per day as well or per job?

Again, just trying to avoid day right robberies in my office!

Even structural engineers charge per visit and its usually same range. But dont be suprised if they take only 1 hour or less at your site yet you will still pay agreed amount per visit.
Pablo
#174 Posted : Thursday, October 07, 2010 9:49:01 AM
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To me an architect ensures that the construction will end up looking like the plan and the engineer ensures the building is strong.

In my experience I noted that I only needed one of them to supervise the construction. So I chose the engineer who was charging me 3,000 + transport per visit but ensured adherence to engineering specs and also did the architects evaluation.

This guy only comes to site twice monthly.

Injere
#175 Posted : Friday, October 08, 2010 5:29:26 PM
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Thanks guys. Appreciated. Think I will use both of these guys wisely and purposefully limit the number of visits to my budget.
Rahatupu
#176 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 9:55:47 AM
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@Injere, the rate is very reasonable, this being per visit it is worth every shilling as Pablo has advised. There are a few important milestones that the engineer needs to check: during laying of foundation, he should supervise the bar bending and laying, and the koroga. The architect should check the dimensions and walling, plus height levels etc. So when you are doing slabbing ensure these guys pay your fundis a visit or two.
longman
#177 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 11:33:01 AM
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Applause Thanks for all this info. Someone had asked about hydraform. Anyone tried it out?? Any cost examples.
Injere
#178 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 12:56:04 PM
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@rahatupu - thanks!
Nobby
#179 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 1:24:17 PM
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Hallo Guys,

a4architect or pablo, can you help me get a plan for a three bedroomed house on a 1/8 plot in syokimau.


The future belongs to those who believe in the beauty of their dreams.
Pablo
#180 Posted : Monday, October 11, 2010 5:03:51 PM
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Boss, there are a million plans here.

http://www.thehouseplans...ll-house-plan-d67-1064/

Select the one you want.

Youll however still need an architect to localise it and get it approved.



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