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AlphDoti wrote:Swenani wrote:Sheikh, can you give me the reasoning as to why Islam allows a man to marry upto 4 wives but doesn't approve me having one wife and one mpango wa kando? First, marrying more than one is not a must. Quran 4:3 says: "...marry those that please you of women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only]" Secondly, there are many reasons why man is allowed to marry more than one wife. You see, not all men are the same... (1). there are men EVEN ONE is no, no! (2). there are men one is okay ad enough, (3). there are those one wife is not enough. This is the category we are talking about. Remember there are some women who don't mind sharing. We're not saying all women want to share. We are saying some don't mind. And these category agree to share the man who needs more than one. Thirdly, why not mpango wa kando? Answer lies in your word "wife"... Why wife in the first place? So the reason why woman wants to be wife is the reason why not mpango... It is about the institution of marriage, approved by God Almighty. Extramarital affairs is haram in Islam. The woman in this relationship is disgraced and unprotected. A woman in marriage is honoured. Asante sana Sheikh, I did'nt say it's a must to Marry 4 wives I said why does Islam ALLOW men to marry upto 4 wives. Anyway, two follow up questions 1. What constitutes marriage in Islam-don't define marriage in legal terms or as per country laws. 2.In relation to 1 above, who is considered a wife according to Islam? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 12/6/2008 Posts: 3,579
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AlphDoti wrote:Swenani wrote:Sheikh, can you give me the reasoning as to why Islam allows a man to marry upto 4 wives but doesn't approve me having one wife and one mpango wa kando? First, marrying more than one is not a must. Quran 4:3 says: "...marry those that please you of women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only]" Secondly, there are many reasons why man is allowed to marry more than one wife. You see, not all men are the same... (1). there are men EVEN ONE is no, no! (2). there are men one is okay ad enough, (3). there are those one wife is not enough. This is the category we are talking about. Remember there are some women who don't mind sharing. We're not saying all women want to share. We are saying some don't mind. And these category agree to share the man who needs more than one. Thirdly, why not mpango wa kando? Answer lies in your word "wife"... Why wife in the first place? So the reason why woman wants to be wife is the reason why not mpango... It is about the institution of marriage, approved by God Almighty. Extramarital affairs is haram in Islam. The woman in this relationship is disgraced and unprotected. A woman in marriage is honoured. What if you don't have sexual relations with one of your wives, like the case of Jesus father, Catholics and many others contend she remained a blessed virgin for life, yet you know Jesus had brothers and sisters, and one of the Marys was Joseph wife, long lecture, but it appears Jesus came from a polygamous family, that is our culture as descent from Judah and his laws, Peter was however a Roman and a Pharisee, he was working for Rome when Jesus called him, the culture there was monogamy, and he warned any Christians going there to do mission work against polygamy, and he continued to argue that he was a pharisee even later, Paul also worked in Rome, everyone with their culture, according to ours you marry as many as you can or like and are able to but even one is ok, sex is not necessarily the objective. You marry the wife/wives God gives you as a gift. Ras Kienyeji Man
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ION, this must be the @fishmonger's younger bro.....jogoo anajulikana akiwa kifaranga. https://www.standardmedi...o-sex-worker-court-told
 Quote:A commercial sex worker pleaded guilty of receiving Sh150 from a 14-year-old for sex but reneged after the court asked whether she understood consequences of pleading guilty to the sexual offence charge.
The court heard that Ms Anindo was arrested in a guest house on April 15, 2018 at Sichirayi estate, Lurambi sub-county with the class 7 pupil. According to the prosecution the accused was allegedly given Sh150 by the minor as payment for the ‘services’ before she walked him to the lodging.
In an alternative charge, Anido is accused of committing an indecent act with a minor by “caressing his genitalia.”
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And also in my culture we NEVER COUNT PEOPLE, if food is the problem, you cast you eye and do an 'over-estimate', this is where we fail by wasting time counting people, why count someone wives? What is all this counting wives about  wivu tu!Roman, Egyptian Babylonian culture of counting fellas. Ras Kienyeji Man
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Swenani wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Swenani wrote:Sheikh, can you give me the reasoning as to why Islam allows a man to marry upto 4 wives but doesn't approve me having one wife and one mpango wa kando? First, marrying more than one is not a must. Quran 4:3 says: "...marry those that please you of women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only]" Secondly, there are many reasons why man is allowed to marry more than one wife. You see, not all men are the same... (1). there are men EVEN ONE is no, no! (2). there are men one is okay ad enough, (3). there are those one wife is not enough. This is the category we are talking about. Remember there are some women who don't mind sharing. We're not saying all women want to share. We are saying some don't mind. And these category agree to share the man who needs more than one. Thirdly, why not mpango wa kando? Answer lies in your word "wife"... Why wife in the first place? So the reason why woman wants to be wife is the reason why not mpango... It is about the institution of marriage, approved by God Almighty. Extramarital affairs is haram in Islam. The woman in this relationship is disgraced and unprotected. A woman in marriage is honoured. Asante sana Sheikh, I did'nt say it's a must to Marry 4 wives I said why does Islam ALLOW men to marry upto 4 wives. Anyway, two follow up questions 1. What constitutes marriage in Islam-don't define marriage in legal terms or as per country laws. 2.In relation to 1 above, who is considered a wife according to Islam? Thank you for asking me about my religion... 1. Islamic marriage is very simple: (a). Boy's consent, (b). Girl's consent, (c). Girl's guardian (e.g. father) consent, (d). Mahr (gift) to the girl, (e). Witnessing e.g. Kadhi or Imam etc 2. Who is wife? The woman after the above conditions are met, who is not already another man's wife...
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AlphDoti wrote:Swenani wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Swenani wrote:Sheikh, can you give me the reasoning as to why Islam allows a man to marry upto 4 wives but doesn't approve me having one wife and one mpango wa kando? First, marrying more than one is not a must. Quran 4:3 says: "...marry those that please you of women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only]" Secondly, there are many reasons why man is allowed to marry more than one wife. You see, not all men are the same... (1). there are men EVEN ONE is no, no! (2). there are men one is okay ad enough, (3). there are those one wife is not enough. This is the category we are talking about. Remember there are some women who don't mind sharing. We're not saying all women want to share. We are saying some don't mind. And these category agree to share the man who needs more than one. Thirdly, why not mpango wa kando? Answer lies in your word "wife"... Why wife in the first place? So the reason why woman wants to be wife is the reason why not mpango... It is about the institution of marriage, approved by God Almighty. Extramarital affairs is haram in Islam. The woman in this relationship is disgraced and unprotected. A woman in marriage is honoured. Asante sana Sheikh, I did'nt say it's a must to Marry 4 wives I said why does Islam ALLOW men to marry upto 4 wives. Anyway, two follow up questions 1. What constitutes marriage in Islam-don't define marriage in legal terms or as per country laws. 2.In relation to 1 above, who is considered a wife according to Islam? Thank you for asking me about my religion... 1. Islamic marriage is very simple: (a). Boy's consent, (b). Girl's consent, (c). Girl's guardian (e.g. father) consent, (d). Mahr (gift) to the girl, (e). Witnessing e.g. Kadhi or Imam etc 2. Who is wife? The woman after the above conditions are met, who is not already another man's wife... I think a mpango wa kando fits the above two A) A man and woman both consent to get into a relationship b)A man or womans gifts living expenses in return for an inkind gift c) Man's boy's or girls friends witness this relationship in some instances even parents of both the main partner and mpango wa kando are usually aware How is mpango wa kando haram if it meets your criteria? If Obiero did it, Who Am I?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 6/20/2008 Posts: 6,275 Location: Kenya
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Swenani wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Swenani wrote:AlphDoti wrote:Swenani wrote:Sheikh, can you give me the reasoning as to why Islam allows a man to marry upto 4 wives but doesn't approve me having one wife and one mpango wa kando? First, marrying more than one is not a must. Quran 4:3 says: "...marry those that please you of women, two or three or four. But if you fear that you will not be just, then [marry only]" Secondly, there are many reasons why man is allowed to marry more than one wife. You see, not all men are the same... (1). there are men EVEN ONE is no, no! (2). there are men one is okay ad enough, (3). there are those one wife is not enough. This is the category we are talking about. Remember there are some women who don't mind sharing. We're not saying all women want to share. We are saying some don't mind. And these category agree to share the man who needs more than one. Thirdly, why not mpango wa kando? Answer lies in your word "wife"... Why wife in the first place? So the reason why woman wants to be wife is the reason why not mpango... It is about the institution of marriage, approved by God Almighty. Extramarital affairs is haram in Islam. The woman in this relationship is disgraced and unprotected. A woman in marriage is honoured. Asante sana Sheikh, I did'nt say it's a must to Marry 4 wives I said why does Islam ALLOW men to marry upto 4 wives. Anyway, two follow up questions 1. What constitutes marriage in Islam-don't define marriage in legal terms or as per country laws. 2.In relation to 1 above, who is considered a wife according to Islam? Thank you for asking me about my religion... 1. Islamic marriage is very simple: (a). Boy's consent, (b). Girl's consent, (c). Girl's guardian (e.g. father) consent, (d). Mahr (gift) to the girl, (e). Witnessing e.g. Kadhi or Imam etc 2. Who is wife? The woman after the above conditions are met, who is not already another man's wife... I think a mpango wa kando fits the above two A) A man and woman both consent to get into a relationship B) A man or womans gifts living expenses in return for an inkind gift C) Man's boy's or girls friends witness this relationship in some instances even parents of both the main partner and mpango wa kando are usually aware How is mpango wa kando haram if it meets your criteria? A). ok - consent of man and girl B). nok - living expenses do not qualify as a mahr/gift/dowry C). ok - witnesses D). nok - where is the kadhi or guardian? E). I forgot another condition, khutbah nikah i.e. sermon of marriage by Imam or any recognized man in the society. You need to meet all A and B and C and D and E for a legal marriage. If this is not met, then the relationship haram and it sin in the eyes of Almighty God
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I keep on telling men...Karumindo is cheaper... Stick with your wife...If you are confused, get one gashungwa....If you are really really confused, go to Karumaindo...Stop this loving every woman you meet stuff. How the hell do you rape a woman? May they be raped for the next 15 years. Thieves are not good people. Tumeelewana?
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Rank: Elder Joined: 2/7/2007 Posts: 921
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alma1 wrote:I keep on telling men...Karumindo is cheaper...
Stick with your wife...If you are confused, get one gashungwa....If you are really really confused, go to Karumaindo...Stop this loving every woman you meet stuff.
How the hell do you rape a woman? May they be raped for the next 15 years. Hawa kwisha. Poor young men.
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