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This document is for those who doubt that lesbian, gay and transgender will be taught in schools. Check page 61/62 https://www.google.com/u...&cshid=1566377651242They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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Do not underestimate the power of teaching and society to change ones sexual beliefs. I know someone who went to France as a student for 1 year. When she left Kenya, she was looking for a boyfriend. After being in France, having a lesbian room mate, transgender friends, now she would not mind a female sexual partner. They must find it difficult....... those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority. -G. Massey.
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newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:radiomast wrote:Many western countries don't have national exams for entry into high school. The reason it works for them is because students get automatic entry into the school that is in their neighbourhood. So for example if you live in Lavington then you get automatic entry into Patch or Kabz. If you live at Laini saba then you get automatic entry into Shadrack Kimalel. And if you live near Thompson falls then you attend Ndururumo secondary.
That system leaves very little room for corruption and inefficiency. Residents of a location take pride in their local school and they work with the school boards and teachers to improve their schools. Their local property taxes go towards improving the school. So if you want a good school system then you must be willing to pay high property taxes.
if there are no national exams then Kenya may have to scrap national schools and leave it to local school boards to improve their schools. Because otherwise there is no objective criteria for determining who can join a national school This is what we need to implement in Kenya for our education system to get to the next level. Exams should be for assessment only and not for placement in preferred schools. The practice of competing for basic education creates a culture of scarcity which endures throughout our lives. The government should introduce schools zoning for basic education, and then divest from universities and let them be run without govt interference. The input of the govt in education should end at standard setting and funding. Teachers should also be directly employed by schools complimented maybe by local govt and not by the PSC. Umedunga point kweli kweli. Guys get your head out of the school competition thing; Its coming to an end. not in Kenya..the new system means if you are poor it will remain a generational curse.you will never come out of that poverty chain.atleast with exams you can read hard and go to 'starehe' and change your fortune.that kibra kid will just be condemned to life of kibra.the rich will relocate to say mangu just to be zoned within mangu high.or kikuyu for alliance girls where they already have a head start in terms of learning resources. to me there is nothing wrong with the current system were it not infiltrated with corruption . you just need to look for guys who went through the first years of 844 and were serious in their studies and life and you would agree that they are all rounded I think any of the systems can work but the issue is design n implementation. Govt jumping to introduce new system without a complete design, without thinking through all the nitty gritties is very worrying. That's why l liked Amina's forthrightness. I hope som court / parliament can stop implementation until these matters are properly ventilated
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I see this is 2011 for Health service providers. Is it really for new curriculum? We are finished! Tumeisha!
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limanika wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:radiomast wrote:Many western countries don't have national exams for entry into high school. The reason it works for them is because students get automatic entry into the school that is in their neighbourhood. So for example if you live in Lavington then you get automatic entry into Patch or Kabz. If you live at Laini saba then you get automatic entry into Shadrack Kimalel. And if you live near Thompson falls then you attend Ndururumo secondary.
That system leaves very little room for corruption and inefficiency. Residents of a location take pride in their local school and they work with the school boards and teachers to improve their schools. Their local property taxes go towards improving the school. So if you want a good school system then you must be willing to pay high property taxes.
if there are no national exams then Kenya may have to scrap national schools and leave it to local school boards to improve their schools. Because otherwise there is no objective criteria for determining who can join a national school This is what we need to implement in Kenya for our education system to get to the next level. Exams should be for assessment only and not for placement in preferred schools. The practice of competing for basic education creates a culture of scarcity which endures throughout our lives. The government should introduce schools zoning for basic education, and then divest from universities and let them be run without govt interference. The input of the govt in education should end at standard setting and funding. Teachers should also be directly employed by schools complimented maybe by local govt and not by the PSC. Umedunga point kweli kweli. Guys get your head out of the school competition thing; Its coming to an end. not in Kenya..the new system means if you are poor it will remain a generational curse.you will never come out of that poverty chain.atleast with exams you can read hard and go to 'starehe' and change your fortune.that kibra kid will just be condemned to life of kibra.the rich will relocate to say mangu just to be zoned within mangu high.or kikuyu for alliance girls where they already have a head start in terms of learning resources. to me there is nothing wrong with the current system were it not infiltrated with corruption . you just need to look for guys who went through the first years of 844 and were serious in their studies and life and you would agree that they are all rounded I think any of the systems can work but the issue is design n implementation. Govt jumping to introduce new system without a complete design, without thinking through all the nitty gritties is very worrying. That's why l liked Amina's forthrightness. I hope som court / parliament can stop implementation until these matters are properly ventilated Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11? "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:limanika wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:radiomast wrote:Many western countries don't have national exams for entry into high school. The reason it works for them is because students get automatic entry into the school that is in their neighbourhood. So for example if you live in Lavington then you get automatic entry into Patch or Kabz. If you live at Laini saba then you get automatic entry into Shadrack Kimalel. And if you live near Thompson falls then you attend Ndururumo secondary.
That system leaves very little room for corruption and inefficiency. Residents of a location take pride in their local school and they work with the school boards and teachers to improve their schools. Their local property taxes go towards improving the school. So if you want a good school system then you must be willing to pay high property taxes.
if there are no national exams then Kenya may have to scrap national schools and leave it to local school boards to improve their schools. Because otherwise there is no objective criteria for determining who can join a national school This is what we need to implement in Kenya for our education system to get to the next level. Exams should be for assessment only and not for placement in preferred schools. The practice of competing for basic education creates a culture of scarcity which endures throughout our lives. The government should introduce schools zoning for basic education, and then divest from universities and let them be run without govt interference. The input of the govt in education should end at standard setting and funding. Teachers should also be directly employed by schools complimented maybe by local govt and not by the PSC. Umedunga point kweli kweli. Guys get your head out of the school competition thing; Its coming to an end. not in Kenya..the new system means if you are poor it will remain a generational curse.you will never come out of that poverty chain.atleast with exams you can read hard and go to 'starehe' and change your fortune.that kibra kid will just be condemned to life of kibra.the rich will relocate to say mangu just to be zoned within mangu high.or kikuyu for alliance girls where they already have a head start in terms of learning resources. to me there is nothing wrong with the current system were it not infiltrated with corruption . you just need to look for guys who went through the first years of 844 and were serious in their studies and life and you would agree that they are all rounded I think any of the systems can work but the issue is design n implementation. Govt jumping to introduce new system without a complete design, without thinking through all the nitty gritties is very worrying. That's why l liked Amina's forthrightness. I hope som court / parliament can stop implementation until these matters are properly ventilated Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11? By full design, I mean entire curriculum for entire primary, junior secondary and senior secondary is complete, govt has already developed systematic plans to build at least 1 extra class in every secondary school by end 2022 to cater for the double intake in '23, issues of selection to junior secondary have been thought through, etc etc. If all this and other nitty grities has been done pls confirm
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limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:radiomast wrote:Many western countries don't have national exams for entry into high school. The reason it works for them is because students get automatic entry into the school that is in their neighbourhood. So for example if you live in Lavington then you get automatic entry into Patch or Kabz. If you live at Laini saba then you get automatic entry into Shadrack Kimalel. And if you live near Thompson falls then you attend Ndururumo secondary.
That system leaves very little room for corruption and inefficiency. Residents of a location take pride in their local school and they work with the school boards and teachers to improve their schools. Their local property taxes go towards improving the school. So if you want a good school system then you must be willing to pay high property taxes.
if there are no national exams then Kenya may have to scrap national schools and leave it to local school boards to improve their schools. Because otherwise there is no objective criteria for determining who can join a national school This is what we need to implement in Kenya for our education system to get to the next level. Exams should be for assessment only and not for placement in preferred schools. The practice of competing for basic education creates a culture of scarcity which endures throughout our lives. The government should introduce schools zoning for basic education, and then divest from universities and let them be run without govt interference. The input of the govt in education should end at standard setting and funding. Teachers should also be directly employed by schools complimented maybe by local govt and not by the PSC. Umedunga point kweli kweli. Guys get your head out of the school competition thing; Its coming to an end. not in Kenya..the new system means if you are poor it will remain a generational curse.you will never come out of that poverty chain.atleast with exams you can read hard and go to 'starehe' and change your fortune.that kibra kid will just be condemned to life of kibra.the rich will relocate to say mangu just to be zoned within mangu high.or kikuyu for alliance girls where they already have a head start in terms of learning resources. to me there is nothing wrong with the current system were it not infiltrated with corruption . you just need to look for guys who went through the first years of 844 and were serious in their studies and life and you would agree that they are all rounded I think any of the systems can work but the issue is design n implementation. Govt jumping to introduce new system without a complete design, without thinking through all the nitty gritties is very worrying. That's why l liked Amina's forthrightness. I hope som court / parliament can stop implementation until these matters are properly ventilated Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11? By full design, I mean entire curriculum for entire primary, junior secondary and senior secondary is complete, govt has already developed systematic plans to build at least 1 extra class in every secondary school by end 2022 to cater for the double intake in '22, issues of selection to junior secondary have been thought through, etc etc. If all this and other nitty grities has been done pls confirm The oldest class in the new curriculum is in class 3, why waste resources on Secondary education while there's an option of building periodically with time. The world is evolving FAST things will look very different 5 years from now when that kid will be joining Secondary school. Just like buildings, you start with a sketch and build on that not a roof down.. "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:radiomast wrote:Many western countries don't have national exams for entry into high school. The reason it works for them is because students get automatic entry into the school that is in their neighbourhood. So for example if you live in Lavington then you get automatic entry into Patch or Kabz. If you live at Laini saba then you get automatic entry into Shadrack Kimalel. And if you live near Thompson falls then you attend Ndururumo secondary.
That system leaves very little room for corruption and inefficiency. Residents of a location take pride in their local school and they work with the school boards and teachers to improve their schools. Their local property taxes go towards improving the school. So if you want a good school system then you must be willing to pay high property taxes.
if there are no national exams then Kenya may have to scrap national schools and leave it to local school boards to improve their schools. Because otherwise there is no objective criteria for determining who can join a national school This is what we need to implement in Kenya for our education system to get to the next level. Exams should be for assessment only and not for placement in preferred schools. The practice of competing for basic education creates a culture of scarcity which endures throughout our lives. The government should introduce schools zoning for basic education, and then divest from universities and let them be run without govt interference. The input of the govt in education should end at standard setting and funding. Teachers should also be directly employed by schools complimented maybe by local govt and not by the PSC. Umedunga point kweli kweli. Guys get your head out of the school competition thing; Its coming to an end. not in Kenya..the new system means if you are poor it will remain a generational curse.you will never come out of that poverty chain.atleast with exams you can read hard and go to 'starehe' and change your fortune.that kibra kid will just be condemned to life of kibra.the rich will relocate to say mangu just to be zoned within mangu high.or kikuyu for alliance girls where they already have a head start in terms of learning resources. to me there is nothing wrong with the current system were it not infiltrated with corruption . you just need to look for guys who went through the first years of 844 and were serious in their studies and life and you would agree that they are all rounded I think any of the systems can work but the issue is design n implementation. Govt jumping to introduce new system without a complete design, without thinking through all the nitty gritties is very worrying. That's why l liked Amina's forthrightness. I hope som court / parliament can stop implementation until these matters are properly ventilated Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11? By full design, I mean entire curriculum for entire primary, junior secondary and senior secondary is complete, govt has already developed systematic plans to build at least 1 extra class in every secondary school by end 2022 to cater for the double intake in '22, issues of selection to junior secondary have been thought through, etc etc. If all this and other nitty grities has been done pls confirm The oldest class in the new curriculum is in class 3, why waste resources on Secondary education while there's an option of building periodically with time. The world is evolving FAST things will look very different 5 years from now when that kid will be joining Secondary school. Just like buildings, you start with a sketch and build on that not a roof down..  take a topic like algebra, or soil, or human body. What will change in 5yrs? In proper curriculum development, you start with the end. I.e, what is the ultimate skill, knowledge etc should the kids have gained by the time they complete basic education? Then work backwards and develop every detail. The sequence of the topics is as important as the topics themselves. What you are proposing is total recipe for failure
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limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:radiomast wrote:Many western countries don't have national exams for entry into high school. The reason it works for them is because students get automatic entry into the school that is in their neighbourhood. So for example if you live in Lavington then you get automatic entry into Patch or Kabz. If you live at Laini saba then you get automatic entry into Shadrack Kimalel. And if you live near Thompson falls then you attend Ndururumo secondary.
That system leaves very little room for corruption and inefficiency. Residents of a location take pride in their local school and they work with the school boards and teachers to improve their schools. Their local property taxes go towards improving the school. So if you want a good school system then you must be willing to pay high property taxes.
if there are no national exams then Kenya may have to scrap national schools and leave it to local school boards to improve their schools. Because otherwise there is no objective criteria for determining who can join a national school This is what we need to implement in Kenya for our education system to get to the next level. Exams should be for assessment only and not for placement in preferred schools. The practice of competing for basic education creates a culture of scarcity which endures throughout our lives. The government should introduce schools zoning for basic education, and then divest from universities and let them be run without govt interference. The input of the govt in education should end at standard setting and funding. Teachers should also be directly employed by schools complimented maybe by local govt and not by the PSC. Umedunga point kweli kweli. Guys get your head out of the school competition thing; Its coming to an end. not in Kenya..the new system means if you are poor it will remain a generational curse.you will never come out of that poverty chain.atleast with exams you can read hard and go to 'starehe' and change your fortune.that kibra kid will just be condemned to life of kibra.the rich will relocate to say mangu just to be zoned within mangu high.or kikuyu for alliance girls where they already have a head start in terms of learning resources. to me there is nothing wrong with the current system were it not infiltrated with corruption . you just need to look for guys who went through the first years of 844 and were serious in their studies and life and you would agree that they are all rounded I think any of the systems can work but the issue is design n implementation. Govt jumping to introduce new system without a complete design, without thinking through all the nitty gritties is very worrying. That's why l liked Amina's forthrightness. I hope som court / parliament can stop implementation until these matters are properly ventilated Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11? By full design, I mean entire curriculum for entire primary, junior secondary and senior secondary is complete, govt has already developed systematic plans to build at least 1 extra class in every secondary school by end 2022 to cater for the double intake in '22, issues of selection to junior secondary have been thought through, etc etc. If all this and other nitty grities has been done pls confirm The oldest class in the new curriculum is in class 3, why waste resources on Secondary education while there's an option of building periodically with time. The world is evolving FAST things will look very different 5 years from now when that kid will be joining Secondary school. Just like buildings, you start with a sketch and build on that not a roof down.. take a topic like algebra, or soil, or human body. What will change in 5yrs? In proper curriculum development, you start with the end. I.e, what is the ultimate skill, knowledge etc should the kids have gained by the time they complete basic education? Then work backwards and develop every detail. The sequence of the topics is as important as the topics themselves. What you are proposing is total recipe for failure If you are talking about Algebra that has been there since Einstein, the wheel is not being reinvented, The delivery is being changed. Dont even get complicated...the way you learnt the alphabet is completely different from how your children are learning it. If you have children go look. I trust the Professionals at KICD are more informed than you are "There are only two emotions in the market, hope & fear. The problem is you hope when you should fear & fear when you should hope: - Jesse Livermore
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murchr wrote:limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:murchr wrote:limanika wrote:newfarer wrote:murchr wrote:Obi 1 Kanobi wrote:radiomast wrote:Many western countries don't have national exams for entry into high school. The reason it works for them is because students get automatic entry into the school that is in their neighbourhood. So for example if you live in Lavington then you get automatic entry into Patch or Kabz. If you live at Laini saba then you get automatic entry into Shadrack Kimalel. And if you live near Thompson falls then you attend Ndururumo secondary.
That system leaves very little room for corruption and inefficiency. Residents of a location take pride in their local school and they work with the school boards and teachers to improve their schools. Their local property taxes go towards improving the school. So if you want a good school system then you must be willing to pay high property taxes.
if there are no national exams then Kenya may have to scrap national schools and leave it to local school boards to improve their schools. Because otherwise there is no objective criteria for determining who can join a national school This is what we need to implement in Kenya for our education system to get to the next level. Exams should be for assessment only and not for placement in preferred schools. The practice of competing for basic education creates a culture of scarcity which endures throughout our lives. The government should introduce schools zoning for basic education, and then divest from universities and let them be run without govt interference. The input of the govt in education should end at standard setting and funding. Teachers should also be directly employed by schools complimented maybe by local govt and not by the PSC. Umedunga point kweli kweli. Guys get your head out of the school competition thing; Its coming to an end. not in Kenya..the new system means if you are poor it will remain a generational curse.you will never come out of that poverty chain.atleast with exams you can read hard and go to 'starehe' and change your fortune.that kibra kid will just be condemned to life of kibra.the rich will relocate to say mangu just to be zoned within mangu high.or kikuyu for alliance girls where they already have a head start in terms of learning resources. to me there is nothing wrong with the current system were it not infiltrated with corruption . you just need to look for guys who went through the first years of 844 and were serious in their studies and life and you would agree that they are all rounded I think any of the systems can work but the issue is design n implementation. Govt jumping to introduce new system without a complete design, without thinking through all the nitty gritties is very worrying. That's why l liked Amina's forthrightness. I hope som court / parliament can stop implementation until these matters are properly ventilated Are you assuming there's no complete design esp since this has been in the works since 2010/11? By full design, I mean entire curriculum for entire primary, junior secondary and senior secondary is complete, govt has already developed systematic plans to build at least 1 extra class in every secondary school by end 2022 to cater for the double intake in '22, issues of selection to junior secondary have been thought through, etc etc. If all this and other nitty grities has been done pls confirm The oldest class in the new curriculum is in class 3, why waste resources on Secondary education while there's an option of building periodically with time. The world is evolving FAST things will look very different 5 years from now when that kid will be joining Secondary school. Just like buildings, you start with a sketch and build on that not a roof down.. take a topic like algebra, or soil, or human body. What will change in 5yrs? In proper curriculum development, you start with the end. I.e, what is the ultimate skill, knowledge etc should the kids have gained by the time they complete basic education? Then work backwards and develop every detail. The sequence of the topics is as important as the topics themselves. What you are proposing is total recipe for failure If you are talking about Algebra that has been there since Einstein, the wheel is not being reinvented, The delivery is being changed. Dont even get complicated...the way you learnt the alphabet is completely different from how your children are learning it. If you have children go look. I trust the Professionals at KICD are more informed than you are
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